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Gold Bullets?

jbuck88

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I am looking for a unique gift/gifts. I seen that on "American Gun" they had some gold bullets cast. I was thinking that these would be perfect. It looked like a cast 45acp cartridge was around one ounce.

Does anyone know where I can buy something along those lines. Silver could work too, but I'd prefer gold.
 
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STUDY FINDS SILVER BULLETS LARGELY INEFFECTIVE AGAINST WEREWOLVES

July 28 2009

Berlin, Germany – Mankind has long held onto a connection with the animal. From the Anubis of Egypt to the dragons of China to the American Bald Eagle, the animal world has long held a great fascination for human beings. Because of that connection animals quite often integrate themselves into popular culture and become personified.
There is perhaps no better of example of that than the Werewolf, a fusion of the human and one of the most vicious of animals is tale that has been told throughout human culture across the world.

Europe in particular has been the home of many tales of the werewolf. From Russia to France the history of mythology and storytelling has long been peppered with tales of Lycanthropy, the transmogrification of a human being into an animal, specifically a wolf. Like all good tales, stories of werewolves have always involved a solution to the afflicted; an antidote to the evil. With werewolves there have been many methods of disposal but none has gripped the public more than the silver, specifically a silver bullet. A new study though has indicated that the silver bullet theory may be nothing more than a myth and that Werewolves may in fact be much easier to dispose of than previously thought.

“An ability to destroy the monster is as important to the mythos as the monster
itself. Not only does it give us as humans a solution to the problem, it helps to reinforce the practical reality of the legend. Because the being is mortal, unlike a God, it is much easier for people to swallow. Its mortality helps us to understand it,” said Dr. Gerhard Warner of the Humboldt University of Berlin. “We’ve studied the solution to Lycanthropy across cultures and what we have found is that virtually all the methods employed would be effective in the case of a werewolf transformation or an attack. As far as we can determine werewolves are flesh and blood and can be disposed of the same way as a healthy person. Any supernatural powers attributed to them are largely fiction and fantasy.”

Warner recommends implements such as blunt objects, knives or swords, or bullets loaded with regular bullets.

“There is little doubt that a werewolf would have increased strength and possibly increased levels of adrenaline that could keep it going for a longer period of time than a normal human. More like a bear than a human, but by and large the things that will kill a human being will kill a werewolf. They may take a few more bullets, but they will go down,” continued Warner. “What we want to prevent it people using valuable silver and melting it down into bullets. There are more common metals that will be just as effective and the hording of silver just isn’t necessary. We don’t want people going around melting down their good cutlery out of ignorance. People should prepare for a werewolf attack in much the same way they would an attack from another human being and not get irrational.”

Dr. Warner also believes that things like poison, fire, and car accidents would also be effective ways to rid a person of a werewolf. There hasn’t been a reported or rumoured werewolf attack in Germany for at least two hundred years, an incident which some believe may have been a regular wolf.

“This study of course is not conclusive and does require further discourse but we feel
we are on solid ground. I do want to emphasize that this is a study of werewolves only. We did not study other monsters such as Vampires so we cannot comment on effective methods for disposing of those beasts,” continued Warner. “This of course shouldn’t make anyone too worked up over the possibility of having to dispatch of a werewolf in the near future. This study was merely for informational purposes. We simply do not want people to panic if the very unlikely event that a werewolf does appear ever occurs.”

Scrape TV News attempted to contact representatives for the silver bullet industry in Germany but received no response by press time.

Anna Phillips, Science Correspondent
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lead and Gold melt at similar temps so a lead bullet mold would also work for Gold.

But just a quick note: If you saw it on American Guns it's a bad idea. </div></div>

Actually, gold melts at 1947.52 °F while lead melts at 621.43 °F. I don't know if a standard bullet molds would be up to the task. However, I believe any good jeweler could cast one very easily.
 
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I have an uncle on Whidbey Island that makes jewelry and owns a shop and has lots of gold experience. If you're interested I could put you in touch with him. If anyone could do it, I know he could.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: macgulley</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lead and Gold melt at similar temps so a lead bullet mold would also work for Gold.

But just a quick note: If you saw it on American Guns it's a bad idea. </div></div>

Actually, gold melts at 1947.52 °F while lead melts at 621.43 °F. I don't know if a standard bullet molds would be up to the task. However, I believe any good jeweler could cast one very easily.
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Doh, my bad!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jbuck88</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah. Want a cast of a cartridge. Not something that's capable of firing. </div></div>

I think making a casting one would cost a lot more than simply having one turned on a lathe. Anyone with even the most basic skills could turn one and polish it up for you plus you could keep the chips and sell it.

On the flip side a solid slug of gold the size of a .45 has got to be at least 2 ounces, i.e. $3400.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cowboy1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
i have a induction furnaces it well melt about anything lol if you leave it in their but its not big i don't have a whole round mold just the projectile </div></div>

You could use a live .45 as the pattern and make a small cope and drag with a little oil sand.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jbuck88</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes jasonk, please pm me his info. I was hoping that I could find something off the shelf. But so far it's not looking like it. </div></div>

You didn't like the ones at Bullet Forge? The solid silver 45 ACP is $125. You'll be hard pressed to beat that with a custom piece. They also say they can do 9mm, 38, 357 and 45 long in solid silver or gold.
 
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1 oz = 437.5 grains so a 200 grain .45 would be .45714 oz

i have a induction furnaces it well melt about anything lol if you leave it in their but its not big i don't have a whole round mold just the projectile

primer is 6 gr
case is 90 grain
projectile 200 grain

that's 296 grains lets say 300 x 1,717.90 a oz =1,177.97 usd now if you was to do solid cast that would be close to 500-520 grains or 1.1885 oz costing close to 2,041.73 usd
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: opshin556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">silver is better because you can use it for shooting werewolves. </div></div>

So what? You're saying gold bullets are useless? Need I remind you that per Golden Eye N64, one shot with a gold bullet ANYWHERE will kill James Bond? I don't know about you but the peace of mind that I'll be protected from JB if he ever breaks into my house is well worth it.

Now what kind of bullets are required for Chuck Norris.....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But just a quick note: If you saw it on American Guns it's a bad idea. </div></div>

This
 
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I know I'd be soo freaking pissed off if I got some of the stuff they delivered to the customer. I dont know how that guy didn't beat the owners ass for building him a volley gun out of scrap steel and a walmart truck hitch for $11k. But that's not the point.

I still think it would be a gift that will always be worth something.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: halcyon575</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: opshin556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">silver is better because you can use it for shooting werewolves. </div></div>

So what? You're saying gold bullets are useless? Need I remind you that per Golden Eye N64, one shot with a gold bullet ANYWHERE will kill James Bond? I don't know about you but the peace of mind that I'll be protected from JB if he ever breaks into my house is well worth it.

Now what kind of bullets are required for Chuck Norris.....







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awesome
 
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Ya a solid gold Pistol Cartridge jewelry that is hanging around your neck . Just the jewelery piece everyone needs when flying commercial to get ostracized to a small backroom in the name public safety & national security by those Idiots employed in TSA .
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Funny on hte silver bullet thing - History's Mysteries pretty much confirmed that the rich MF that owned a hyena or wolf or whatever it was shot his own pet with a silver bullet to end a reign of terror that was going on.

Was a cool show and showed how the myth came about.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: opshin556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">silver is better because you can use it for shooting werewolves. </div></div>

+1
 
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I have no desire for precious metals. If matters ever truly reach the 'paper money is asswipe' stage, all precious metals would be is bait for marauders.

'May the Good Lord bless and keep the Gold...; far away from us!'.
 
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i dont think anyone mentioned gold plating yet...wouldn't this be much cheaper? load up a powderless cartridge and plate it. saw some furniture get "guilded" on a home show with a sheet of gold that rubbed off when pressed to it. PBS junkie
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I was thinking that it would be a good gift for my nephews first birthday. Then when he is older he can use it towards college/car/gun or keep it. I would like a instribed solid gold cartridge probably less then 5oz total. But 2oz would be enough. Then I was thinking that I would want a cast 50bmg round out of silver for me.
 
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I would also say a jeweler. I have seen them do all kinds of neat stuff. They will take something that would be flammable. Put it into a casting goop. Let it dry and cook it in a kiln. That gets all the stuff out. Then pour in the melted stuff. I figure a lead bullet would melt out nicely.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would also say a jeweler. I have seen them do all kinds of neat stuff. They will take something that would be flammable. Put it into a casting goop. Let it dry and cook it in a kiln. That gets all the stuff out. Then pour in the melted stuff. I figure a lead bullet would melt out nicely. </div></div>
That would be 'wax', and the "casting goop" is called 'investment'. This is where the copies of the item come from. Hence, the "Investment Casting" process which is also known as "lost-wax casting".

The wax forms are then coated with a plaster slurry many times, and then the wax is melted out when the plaster is 'kiln dried'. Not exactly in a kiln, but the principle is the same.

Or something like that.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: halcyon575</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now what kind of bullets are required for Chuck Norris..... </div></div>

Bullets reloaded by Bruce Lee

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sean the Nailer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would also say a jeweler. I have seen them do all kinds of neat stuff. They will take something that would be flammable. Put it into a casting goop. Let it dry and cook it in a kiln. That gets all the stuff out. Then pour in the melted stuff. I figure a lead bullet would melt out nicely. </div></div>
That would be 'wax', and the "casting goop" is called 'investment'. This is where the copies of the item come from. Hence, the "Investment Casting" process which is also known as "lost-wax casting".

The wax forms are then coated with a plaster slurry many times, and then the wax is melted out when the plaster is 'kiln dried'. Not exactly in a kiln, but the principle is the same.

Or something like that.</div></div>
As a kid (a looong time ago) a guy was doing the casting in the middle of the a local mall. It fascinated me as anything dangerous looking did
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He took this piece of a pine tree that had the beginnings of pine cones on it and put it into the "investment". He then put it into a furnace after it dried for about a half an hour and burned all the pine out of it. Washed it in water then poured in silver or something like that. Broke it open after about 5 minutes and BAM there is was. Cool stuff for a 10 year old.
 
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<span style="text-decoration: underline">[/u]</span><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: opshin556</div><div class="ubbcode-body">STUDY FINDS SILVER BULLETS LARGELY INEFFECTIVE AGAINST WEREWOLVES

July 28 2009

Berlin, Germany – Mankind has long held onto a connection with the animal. From the Anubis of Egypt to the dragons of China to the American Bald Eagle, the animal world has long held a great fascination for human beings. Because of that connection animals quite often integrate themselves into popular culture and become personified.
There is perhaps no better of example of that than the Werewolf, a fusion of the human and one of the most vicious of animals is tale that has been told throughout human culture across the world.

Europe in particular has been the home of many tales of the werewolf. From Russia to France the history of mythology and storytelling has long been peppered with tales of Lycanthropy, the transmogrification of a human being into an animal, specifically a wolf. Like all good tales, stories of werewolves have always involved a solution to the afflicted; an antidote to the evil. With werewolves there have been many methods of disposal but none has gripped the public more than the silver, specifically a silver bullet. A new study though has indicated that the silver bullet theory may be nothing more than a myth and that Werewolves may in fact be much easier to dispose of than previously thought.

“An ability to destroy the monster is as important to the mythos as the monster
itself. Not only does it give us as humans a solution to the problem, it helps to reinforce the practical reality of the legend. Because the being is mortal, unlike a God, it is much easier for people to swallow. Its mortality helps us to understand it,” said Dr. Gerhard Warner of the Humboldt University of Berlin. “We’ve studied the solution to Lycanthropy across cultures and what we have found is that virtually all the methods employed would be effective in the case of a werewolf transformation or an attack. As far as we can determine werewolves are flesh and blood and can be disposed of the same way as a healthy person. Any supernatural powers attributed to them are largely fiction and fantasy.”

Warner recommends implements such as blunt objects, knives or swords, or bullets loaded with regular bullets.

“There is little doubt that a werewolf would have increased strength and possibly increased levels of adrenaline that could keep it going for a longer period of time than a normal human. More like a bear than a human, but by and large the things that will kill a human being will kill a werewolf. They may take a few more bullets, but they will go down,” continued Warner. “What we want to prevent it people using valuable silver and melting it down into bullets. There are more common metals that will be just as effective and the hording of silver just isn’t necessary. We don’t want people going around melting down their good cutlery out of ignorance. People should prepare for a werewolf attack in much the same way they would an attack from another human being and not get irrational.”

Dr. Warner also believes that things like poison, fire, and car accidents would also be effective ways to rid a person of a werewolf. There hasn’t been a reported or rumoured werewolf attack in Germany for at least two hundred years, an incident which some believe may have been a regular wolf.

“This study of course is not conclusive and does require further discourse but we feel
we are on solid ground. I do want to emphasize that this is a study of werewolves only. We did not study other monsters such as Vampires so we cannot comment on effective methods for disposing of those beasts,” continued Warner. “This of course shouldn’t make anyone too worked up over the possibility of having to dispatch of a werewolf in the near future. This study was merely for informational purposes. We simply do not want people to panic if the very unlikely event that a werewolf does appear ever occurs.”

Scrape TV News attempted to contact representatives for the silver bullet industry in Germany but received no response by press time.

Anna Phillips, Science Correspondent </div></div>




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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MuleHunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: halcyon575</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now what kind of bullets are required for Chuck Norris..... </div></div>

Bullets reloaded by Bruce Lee

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Ha. Bruce Lee. .......the anti-chuck!!!
 
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Come on off that fat wallet. A solid gold and diamond appointed .50 BMG cartridge would really make a statement. Just saying, or maybe a solid gold Barret, to match the cartridge.