Guess I am about to pack some gear and head for the border...

[SilentStalkr]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-military-equipment-border-block-caravan.html

This shit must stop! It doesn’t look like the gov is going to be doing much, probably about as effective as Mexico was. This is an invasion. If we let this go unchecked we might as well not have a nation of laws, might as well not have a nation at all. I feel for these people but there is a right way. I can’t just go take a ferrari from the dealership because it’s my fucking dream. This is BS and it needs to be dealt with or I am going to call for citizens to join me at the border. Call me whatever you want but we have laws. If the gov can’t deal with this then laws apparently don’t apply anyways.

 

[Mooncake]

Not sure what more Trump can do just now, they're still 900 miles away. He's sending troops to the border and putting pressure on Mexico to stop them. I agree, though, that with two more groups on the heels of the first that it is paramount that the first caravan does not succeed in breaching our border. One thing is for sure, tho, when they eventually get there it's going to be a show.

 

[Kadams1563]

And what are you going to do to stop them?

If our government doesn’t block the border with Troops for a show of force then I have no idea what could be done. Are they gonna just keep walking even when they see all of the troops?

What if they do are they gonna open fire on them? NOPE. Let’s just hope they don’t call our bluff and they stop.

 

[FS1]

They will cross then be put on buses and sent back across the border. No immunity, no court, no welfare just a bus ticket back to Mex. They only come now because they can stay while they wait for the court date they will never appear for.

 

[ArmyJerry]

he can and should napalm them.

Not sure what more Trump can do just now, they're still 900 miles away. He's sending troops to the border and putting pressure on Mexico to stop them. I agree, though, that with two more groups on the heels of the first that it is paramount that the first caravan does not succeed in breaching our border. One thing is for sure, tho, when they eventually get there it's going to be a show.

 

[Nik H]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-military-equipment-border-block-caravan.html

This shit must stop! It doesn’t look like the gov is going to be doing much, probably about as effective as Mexico was. This is an invasion. If we let this go unchecked we might as well not have a nation of laws, might as well not have a nation at all. I feel for these people but there is a right way. I can’t just go take a ferrari from the dealership because it’s my fucking dream. This is BS and it needs to be dealt with or I am going to call for citizens to join me at the border. Call me whatever you want but we have laws. If the gov can’t deal with this then laws apparently don’t apply anyways.

Laws will be applied to you big time my friend. You will for certain be arrested and lose your right to own a firearm.

Our time will come...you will know when

 

[diverdon]

Yes we do have laws, but it is not your job to enforce them, it is your job to hold politicians accountable. By accountable I mean on election day.

 

[ArmyJerry]

When the government doesn't enforce laws equally and constitutionally we no longer have law

 

[Mooncake]

he can and should napalm them.

Haha...I love the smell of burning Central Americans in the morning...

Yes, I imagine the image of childrens' burned corpses after Trump drops napalm on them in another sovereignty will be well received. We would instantly be at odds with every other nation on Earth, Donnie would have 0% chance of reelection (if he wasn't executed for war crimes) and the commies would essentially be handed the reigns without having to spend one of Soros' dollars.

I guess you'd finally get your civil war when they ban guns and issue confiscation orders.

 

[MtnCreek]

^ You planning on living forever?

 

[Mooncake]

^ You planning on living forever?

Me? I'm not sure what you mean. I certainly don't have a death wish. At least a few more decades to watch my kids grow up would be nice, and to be around to ensure that they get to. If my choices are to die in a bloody war or to not, well...I'm gonna go with the latter if at all possible.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

Haha...I love the smell of burning Central Americans in the morning...

Yes, I imagine the image of childrens' burned corpses after Trump drops napalm on them in another sovereignty will be well received. We would instantly be at odds with every other nation on Earth, Donnie would have 0% chance of reelection (if he wasn't executed for war crimes) and the commies would essentially be handed the reigns without having to spend one of Soros' dollars.

I guess you'd finally get your civil war when they ban guns and issue confiscation orders.

Mooncake, when the mexican police abandoned their roadblock and let the caravan through, that right there is mexico "Aid'n an' Abett'n" and that right there makes them an Enemy of the State(s), doesn't it? Same for any country that helped terrorists. How is this different?

I'm not an advocate of using napalm. But if they invading army isn't repelled with diplomacy, what options truly exist?

 

[SilentStalkr]

And what are you going to do to stop them?

If our government doesn’t block the border with Troops for a show of force then I have no idea what could be done. Are they gonna just keep walking even when they see all of the troops?

What if they do are they gonna open fire on them? NOPE. Let’s just hope they don’t call our bluff and they stop.

As far as im concerned then yes, they should open fire whether as a bluff or not. This is no different than an invading force imo. Like I said put uniforms on them and it looks entirely different doesn’t it? Clearly being diplomatic about it has not worked.

 

[Mooncake]

Yeah, it's a problem that needs to be dealt with, but being heavy handed is just going to play into the left's gameplan. The first Guatemalan toddler who get's an eye put out by a rubber bullet is going to be a disaster for Trump, let alone the use of deadly force. Honestly, I don't know what the best game plan is, but it sure as shit isn't killing 4K people while the world watches. I am certainly not advocating letting them in, but it has to be done very carefully.

Whomever Trump's opponent turns out to be, they're going to be a commie piece of shit. The commies will likely Weekend at Bernie's RBG for another two years and Thomas is rumored to want to retire -- it's pretty fukn important that Trump is reelected.

 

[QuickNDirty]

Didn't .mil build a bunch of those ADS things?

I figure about a 100 or so of those at each point the folks might try to make a pass would probably demotivate the majority of them. Shoot the rest.

 

[FS1]

A hundred buses and some Cowboys is all you need. Head em up move em out.

 

[SilentStalkr]

We have all sorts of nonlethal crowd control goodies that could be used, just saying.

 

[Mr. Z]

he can and should napalm them.

This, QUIETLY, would be a great deterrent to future invasion forces. “I dunno, they just up and vanished.”

 

[jinxx4ever]

couple crop duster planes loaded with some chemical would stop them. Maybe nothing lethal, just something to make them sicker than hell

 

[QuickNDirty]

couple crop duster planes loaded with some chemical would stop them. Maybe nothing lethal, just something to make them sicker than hell

Capsaicin powder? That'd generate some liberal tears, for sure!

But... expensive as fuck.

https://www.bulkapothecary.com/pepp...MI65KVpbGs3gIVV57ACh24VwzYEAQYAyABEgJRn_D_BwE

Ok, how about this?

1 mile from border, focus LRADs screaming NIN - I wanna fuck you like an animal
1/2 mile from border, fire up the ADS
1/4 mile from border, 2000lbs of concentrated pepper oil/powder
0 miles from border, m249s, M2s, and whatever else (maybe some 25mm from the bradleys or something)
1/10 mile on our side, Apaches and A10s.

 

[ArmyJerry]

What a pussy. You will rather surrender than have a bunch of shorty countries get mad at us.

Me? I'm not sure what you mean. I certainly don't have a death wish. At least a few more decades to watch my kids grow up would be nice, and to be around to ensure that they get to. If my choices are to die in a bloody war or to not, well...I'm gonna go with the latter if at all possible.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Share your address so we can send them where you live.

Being nice doesn't work. Napalm works.

Yeah, it's a problem that needs to be dealt with, but being heavy handed is just going to play into the left's gameplan. The first Guatemalan toddler who get's an eye put out by a rubber bullet is going to be a disaster for Trump, let alone the use of deadly force. Honestly, I don't know what the best game plan is, but it sure as shit isn't killing 4K people while the world watches. I am certainly not advocating letting them in, but it has to be done very carefully.

Whomever Trump's opponent turns out to be, they're going to be a commie piece of shit. The commies will likely Weekend at Bernie's RBG for another two years and Thomas is rumored to want to retire -- it's pretty fukn important that Trump is reelected.

 

[Mooncake]

lol...ok, Jerry.

 

[MtnCreek]

Napalm. Do it for the children.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Napalm leaves traces.
But if a "terrorist" was trying to use the caravan to smuggle an Iranian nuke into the country and it just happened to do a premature detonation.......

We did warn them terrorists might be hidden in the crowd......

 

[Fig]

That's horrible..., and I'm going to Hell for laughing out loud...

 

[FS1]

This thread deserves some Nietzsche “for when you look long into the abyss, the abyss looks into you”. Or something like that.

 

[diverdon]

This thread deserves some Nietzsche “for when you look long into the abyss, the abyss looks into you”. Or something like that.

It is time.

 

[308pirate]

Kill every last one of them

 

[sirhrmechanic]

I think that capsaicin powder would work fine if we were being invaded by the Irish or the Norwegians... they don't know what a spice is.

These beaners gobble that stuff like Pixie Stix!

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[W54/XM-388]

This thread deserves some Nietzsche “for when you look long into the abyss, the abyss looks into you”. Or something like that.

Nice and all... except when it's more like you walk around with the abyss as your pet that you have to keep on a leash & pet it regularly and remind it not to bite people.

 

[QuickNDirty]

I think that capsaicin powder would work fine if we were being invaded by the Irish or the Norwegians... they don't know what a spice is.

These beaners gobble that stuff like Pixie Stix!

Cheers,

Sirhr

I don't think these are real beaners. See video for proof.

Looks pretty effective to me.

 

[SilentStalkr]

Napalm leaves traces.
But if a "terrorist" was trying to use the caravan to smuggle an Iranian nuke into the country and it just happened to do a premature detonation.......

We did warn them terrorists might be hidden in the crowd......

Now you are thinking...

 

[wildcats]

You have to wonder if their are any sleeper cells in the that crowd.

 

[thejeep]

Park a couple hundred lowered and bow legged Honda crx’s with exhaust tips just shy of the border. Chain steering wheels and a 12” sub in the back sans box. Tell them free if they stay out.

No one will enter.

 

[SilentStalkr]

I mean don’t get me wrong guys, I feel bad for some of these people, especially the women and children, which is exactly what they want, but we are a sovereign nation with laws. We cannot allow free run of people into our borders no matter who it is. They decided to make the journey, most likely encouraged with money. They were the ones who decided to break our laws and so forth, no different than a criminal stealing exotic cars and getting caught. They made the decision.

 

[diverdon]

They are political pawns of the UN in an attempt by that body to destroy America the same way they destroyed Germany. Out leaders should turn them into an example of why we are not to be trifled with in this way.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

I mean don’t get me wrong guys, I feel bad for some of these people, especially the women and children, which is exactly what they want, but we are a sovereign nation with laws. We cannot allow free run of people into our borders no matter who it is. They decided to make the journey, most likely encouraged with money. They were the ones who decided to break our laws and so forth, no different than a criminal stealing exotic cars and getting caught. They made the decision.

The basis of everything is free will...

If there really 'were' justice, the people organizing this (and who talked these people into joining their little stunt caravan) would be found and made to pay for their actions. There are, no doubt, a whole crapload of laws being broken... not to mention that if anyone dies, gets sick or injured along the way... the caravan organizers should be responsible.

This is not just a spontaneous "run for the border." This is an organized, logistically-supported, TV moment, created by a handful of AMERICAN activists and abetted by the media and other entities.

The only thing I feel bad about is that these people are going to get tossed aside like empty Zima cans the instant they are no longer useful to the far left who is cynically using them to try and interfere with an election. Thousands will be on Mexico's Northern border, homeless, without a country. With no way back to banana land. Unable to pay a Coyote. At the mercy of smugglers, cartels, pimps... you name it.

It's The Grapes of Wrath, only organized by leftists not fruit growers... and without a benevolent Roosevelt to try and help with a soft landing.

This is not going to end well for these people. Who should have recognized that, even in Guatamala... if it sounds too good to be true... it probably is!

In great disgust that the 'caring' left could be so hopelessly callous that they will destroy the lives of tens of thousands... but, hey, gotta crack some eggs to make that Omlette, right Comrades?

Sirhr

 

[ArmyJerry]

On foreign soils they could be shot by a contractor for the CIA.

The basis of everything is free will...

If there really 'were' justice, the people organizing this (and who talked these people into joining their little stunt caravan) would be found and made to pay for their actions. There are, no doubt, a whole crapload of laws being broken... not to mention that if anyone dies, gets sick or injured along the way... the caravan organizers should be responsible.

This is not just a spontaneous "run for the border." This is an organized, logistically-supported, TV moment, created by a handful of AMERICAN activists and abetted by the media and other entities.

The only thing I feel bad about is that these people are going to get tossed aside like empty Zima cans the instant they are no longer useful to the far left who is cynically using them to try and interfere with an election. Thousands will be on Mexico's Northern border, homeless, without a country. With no way back to banana land. Unable to pay a Coyote. At the mercy of smugglers, cartels, pimps... you name it.

It's The Grapes of Wrath, only organized by leftists not fruit growers... and without a benevolent Roosevelt to try and help with a soft landing.

This is not going to end well for these people. Who should have recognized that, even in Guatamala... if it sounds too good to be true... it probably is!

In great disgust that the 'caring' left could be so hopelessly callous that they will destroy the lives of tens of thousands... but, hey, gotta crack some eggs to make that Omlette, right Comrades?

Sirhr

 

[Nodakplowboy]

You have to wonder if their are any sleeper cells in the that crowd.

I'm thinking that's a given. Along with any number of gang related degenerates.

Give the front line troops riot gear and batons, tear gas and pepper spray. Second line, locked and loaded. Finally a single order:

Stop them.

Then let them do their job.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

Didn't .mil build a bunch of those ADS things?

I figure about a 100 or so of those at each point the folks might try to make a pass would probably demotivate the majority of them. Shoot the rest.

I'll grant, that at-range, this could very well be a 'first' line of defense. If such, then I'd suggest the second line of defense being at the very least, Microwaves. Any and all that get past/through that, and actually breach the border.... then it's GAME ON and playing for keeps. Santa Ana Part II. The Redux.

This is expected to be in Texas again, right? Alamo Squared?

Ya'll need a Team name.

 

[DOA]

This is what we need to do but the US public has no stomach to do what we need to do.

 

[QuickNDirty]

This is what we need to do but the US public has no stomach to do what we need to do.

I imagine it's an acquired taste, eating dinner while people are being dismembered and impaled beside you, but if anyone was gonna piss me off enough to be OK with that, it just might be the commies.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Vlad had teh right idea.

 

[wildcats]

I'm thinking that's a given. Along with any number of gang related degenerates.

Give the front line troops riot gear and batons, tear gas and pepper spray. Second line, locked and loaded. Finally a single order:

Stop them.

Then let them do their job.

I'm sure they are going to put their kids in the front lines to gain sympathy and try to pushed them thru ,knowing that the troops will not harm them.

 

[QuickNDirty]

www.liveleak.com/view?t=C7kwt_1540836789

-- The livelink is an abridged version. In this one below, we can see that tear gas actually isn't very effective, with one wiley shit grabbing the tear gas canister from a couple hundred yards back, sprinting to the gate, and throwing it back at the mexicans around 10:40.

http://www.milenio.com/politica/migrantes-intentar-dar-portazo-en-frontera-con-mexico

YYYEEEPPP.... I think shooting up the horde is the right choice here! Ain't a single fucker in that group trying to make a better life for themselves doing that shit.

I can't imagine the cartels are too thrilled being disrespected like that, either. Me thinks some bridges are gonna be decorated with some foreigners soon.

 

[Snipe260]

I think we should all take our grills down to the border. When the first one shows up shoot him, skin him and place on the grill with marinate of course! Next guy tells crowd, hey, there eating people here! Great deferent !

 

[MtnCreek]

Can't cut their heart out and toss them down steps. They'd feel right at home.

 

[Tucker301]

How many buses would it take to haul their asses to the next border?

 

[QuickNDirty]

Jesus, these guys are fucking nuts.

http://www.milenio.com/politica/migrantes-intentan-dar-portazo-para-ingresar-a-mexico

Scroll down to 18:11 start the video and flip to 17:00. Throwing rocks and shit at damn blackhawk...

at 34:00 they're using porta potties to close the distance on the mexicans that decided to try to run them off with maybe non-lethal munitions or something.