Gun Laws in California stop a crime

[hermosabeach]

Just Kidding
Laws have not stopped drugs, kills, rapes.... but here is the story

California man busted on weapons, drug charges after homemade shotgun goes off in park: police

A California man was allegedly tinkering with a homemade shotgun in a public park on Tuesday when the weapon accidentally fired, leading police to find and arrest him.

www.foxnews.com

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A California man was allegedly tinkering with a homemade shotgun in a public park on Tuesday when the weapon accidentally fired, leading police to find and arrest him.
Juan Bais, 41, faces charges of possession of the shotgun, methamphetamine pipes, and discharging the weapon, police said.

 

[Jscb1b]

Wish he would have shot himself in the head.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

I know shotguns have some of the lowest breech pressures of any firearm while in operation... But I am surprised that abomination actually held together and didn't blow that guy's hands off.

I have read an account of one of the frontier battles between the civilian garrison of an ad-hoc Patriot fort and Indians that were laying siege to it during the Revolutionary War. At one point, a couple of boys loaded a log that was hollow and plugged at one end with gunpowder, sack wadding and a bag of buckshot. When the hostile Indians attempted to charge again, the boys lit off the touchhole with a fuse and the improvised canister charge killed several of the oncoming braves instantly. The 'cannon' apparently was so strong that it withstood three or four more blasts before turning into a regular old bomb. The Indians were convinced that the crude fort had masked artillery concealed inside and did not dare attack it again. A Continental Army contingent arrived a few days later, to the relief and joy of the garrison.

 

[GUN NUT in IA]

Remember you heard it here first.

Coming soon to your area -

Gunsmiths now HIGHLY regulated - soon to be illegal.

 

[Maggot]

I know shotguns have some of the lowest breech pressures of any firearm while in operation... But I am surprised that abomination actually held together and didn't blow that guy's hands off.

I have read an account of one of the frontier battles between the civilian garrison of an ad-hoc Patriot fort and Indians that were laying siege to it during the Revolutionary War. At one point, a couple of boys loaded a log that was hollow and plugged at one end with gunpowder, sack wadding and a bag of buckshot. When the hostile Indians attempted to charge again, the boys lit off the touchhole with a fuse and the improvised canister charge killed several of the oncoming braves instantly. The 'cannon' apparently was so strong that it withstood three or four more blasts before turning into a regular old bomb. The Indians were convinced that the crude fort had masked artillery concealed inside and did not dare attack it again. A Continental Army contingent arrived a few days later, to the relief and joy of the garrison.

If it was hickory, red oak, or live oak, I could believe it. Thats some dense, hard stuff. I used to build fences out of red oak and you had to drill a pilot hole to get the nails through. Even cut nails would break.

 

[Maser]

A 12 gauge only has roughly 8,000-10,000 PSI of pressure when fired. A steel water pipe can easily contain it. Besides, it's still perfectly legal to build your own "basic" firearm.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

If it was hickory, red oak, or live oak, I could believe it. Thats some dense, hard stuff. I used to build fences out of red oak and you had to drill a pilot hole to get the nails through. Even cut nails would break.

And the powder used during that time, especially on the frontier, was fairly weak powder. The consistency of oxidizer was about 65-70% potassium or sodium nitrate, and much of the stuff was not completely pure either.

Sporting grade powder, with up to 80% pure nitrate, which became available commercially in the 1840's, would have wrecked a wooden 'barrel' instantly.

 

[Maggot]

And the powder used during that time, especially on the frontier, was fairly weak powder. The consistency of oxidizer was about 65-70% potassium or sodium nitrate, and much of the stuff was not completely pure either.

Sporting grade powder, with up to 80% pure nitrate, which became available commercially in the 1840's, would have wrecked a wooden 'barrel' instantly.

Not to mention the guys touching it off, LOL.

BOOM..."Wheres Joe and Bill?"

 

[sirhrmechanic]

PVC wrapped in rope and buried in a dirt bank makes a fine improvised canister cannon. Only fires once. But a pound of bp and 5lbs of ball only needs one shot of aimed in the right direction.

Like up a draw or similar funnel.

Sirhr

 

[phxfa]

PVC wrapped in rope and buried in a dirt bank makes a fine improvised canister cannon. Only fires once. But a pound of bp and 5lbs of ball only needs one shot of aimed in the right direction.

Like up a draw or similar funnel.

Sirhr

Plans or it didn’t happen,,,,,

 

[Blue Sky Country]

PVC wrapped in rope and buried in a dirt bank makes a fine improvised canister cannon. Only fires once. But a pound of bp and 5lbs of ball only needs one shot of aimed in the right direction.

Like up a draw or similar funnel.

Sirhr

Basically a directional mine... And such contraptions can now be electrically fired, making them far easier and safer for those behind them than in the past, when a gunpowder fuse or nitrate-soaked rope match was your only consolation for (possibly) getting away just in time.

 

[TACC]

This is how claymores must have been invented

 

[phxfa]

Hmmmm, how to waterproof? Perimeter of the homestead with the above mentioned electric firing device

 

[Blue Sky Country]

This is how claymores must have been invented

Has to be... The principles behind them are the exact same. With modern plastic explosives, which detonate and release all of their stored energy at once regardless of whether they are contained in a vessel or not, eliminated the need for a barrel to allow traditional propellants to burn and develop enough pressure.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

PVC wrapped in rope and buried in a dirt bank makes a fine improvised canister cannon. Only fires once. But a pound of bp and 5lbs of ball only needs one shot of aimed in the right direction.

Like up a draw or similar funnel.

Sirhr

now GI be thinking like VC,....good because your going to need keep thinking like that before this shit is over. FU-Gas can hook a whole stack/entry team up at once,.... if you think out of the box,...

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

He could have got at least $100 at a gun buyback.