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Guns or Botes----.
- Thread starter Caymanboy
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People don't think that boat life be like it be but it do
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I like the way the deck opened up from the hull and then snapped back down like a giant mouth.
Sooner or later, a person will forget to turn on and run the blowers for a while before starting the engine(s).
I did. Never had an accident, but I puckered up big time when I realized it.
I don't know that a blower would have helped or was the igniter, hard to say. Seems like alot of gas/vapors. One would think you could smell it
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No one went to get the boat captain. It looks like he was blown aft into the water.
Dime a dozen down here. We only keep track of the REALLY BIG ones now. Most are gone for the Holidays.
Maybe when the sun comes up and over we can see the name.
The aftermath this morning.
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Definitely guns..... No Botes...... I always hated being on Dad's boat because, inevitably, I'd do something wrong and get chewed out about it.
That said, he was very safe and ensured the Bilge Blower was running before he'd start the engines. That and he'd open the engine hatches just to air things out.
That said, he was very safe and ensured the Bilge Blower was running before he'd start the engines. That and he'd open the engine hatches just to air things out.
New guy on boat......."Hey I will go ahead and start the engines for you"
Captain......"WAIT DON'T TOUCH THAT BUTTONNNNNNNNNNNNNNN"
Captain......"WAIT DON'T TOUCH THAT BUTTONNNNNNNNNNNNNNN"
It would not be difficult to me make it automatic with the ignition. Turn the key and the vent has to run for a set period and the starter is locked out until the period ends.
Inboard gas boats can dangerous if not handled correctly. Leaks or failing sender seals, even small enough for just fumes, don't play well with ignition in closed spaces.
On our boat, we always run the blower before starting. I'm anal about that, and My Lady used to think I was pushing it too far. I'll be showing her this pic/vid above. Thanks for that.
And our blower is also connected inline with the bilge float valve. Aside from the switch at the helm, if anyone were to suddenly and 'without reason' hear the blower running, that means that we're taking on water and the aft bilge pump is running.
The timer suggested above (similar to diesel's glow-plugs) would be an interesting upgrade.
And our blower is also connected inline with the bilge float valve. Aside from the switch at the helm, if anyone were to suddenly and 'without reason' hear the blower running, that means that we're taking on water and the aft bilge pump is running.
The timer suggested above (similar to diesel's glow-plugs) would be an interesting upgrade.
it's that catch 22 when you hate that big brother has to regulate what should be common sense.
I'd think that the manufacturer would automatically do something like that to avoid the inevitable lawsuits.
I have forgotten some things, but as I recall, the blower itself (being Low Voltage/12 Volts DC) is not high enough voltage (doesn't contain enough energy) to ignite fuel vapors. I'm speaking only of the blower and it is possible that they are sealed from the atmosphere as well. Also, as I recall, the blowers are made to force fresh air INTO to bilge/low spots/confinedd spaces where fuel vapors will accumulate. The positive pressure from the blower will force the fuel vapors out through the vents and the fresh air will replace the combustible air.
As far as the amount of fuel vapors, it takes very little fuel vapor for a very large explosion (seen videos on YouTube about fuel vapor explosions and dust explosions). Also, the fuel vapors are heavier than air and will settle to the lowest point(s) in the boat. It is possible to have an explosive condition and the occupants are not in close enough proximity to smell the vapors.
You know that makes too much sense.
There's no way the manufacturers will implement it.
On a more serious note.
Can you imagine how many failures to start would occur with suspect TD relays.
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Let's just say we don't agree.
12v is more than enough voltage to make a BOOM.
Yeah, that's fair. As I said, I wasn't sure of that. There are devices called "Intrinsically Safe Barriers" and are used for switching signals at levels that are safe to prevent ignition of hazardous vapors/dust. It could be that they operate at 6, 7, or 8 volts DC. There is a level under which, the voltage is low enough that it will not produce a spark that would ignite hazardous vapors. I just don't remember enough details about the entire subject. And, I don't own a boat, so I don't have a lot of reason to go back and research the subject. Seems to be easier, less expensive and less complicated to always remember to run the blower(s) for the prescribed amount of time before trying to start the boat.
You are, of course, correct. I had forgotten that in the context of this thread.
