Gyroscopic Mounting system

[Jackman824]

I was thinking one day how do you make a great shot with so many variables?

-well you eliminate what variables you can and then compensate for the ones you can't through training and know how.

This specific mount that is an idea in my mind would be for the most extreme shooting environments. One that has countless variables inputted into an equation for a good shot. Out on open ocean ship to ship maritime sniping.

FREDRIK C. JONSSON did an awesome job at teaching how to shoot in this treacherous environment in his book Maritime Snipers Manual and i can attest to its difficulty. but what if there was a mount that took out the pitch and roll of own ship and kept you as a shooter and rifle on a stable horizon no only having to account for your targets motion speed and up and down.

There are many more variables that go into this but eliminating as much as possible is desirable? Any ideas, thoughts, insight, or inputs?

 

[sail2468]

A machine to do what you are describing is possible, watch an M1 tank barrel tracking or shipborne Phalanx system. I think it would be cost prohibitive and a product of no real return on investment. The mission is so specific and infrequent that it would be harder to get the system to the right spot than to take the shot. The axis of movement is a huge variable, 4' or 40' swells. Of course if you have one I am sure Uncle Scam will buy it, he is great at wasting cash. Anyone remember the SGT York AA gun?
Most of the shooting on this site is like golf, always looking to personally reach perfection, not looking for a machine to do it for ya.

 

[PAGhillie]

Yes making that "perfect shot" is a personal achievment. If you had a gadget to take out the varibables then any dummy can do it.

 

[B3dlam]

You could look into modifing a camera stabalizer system which functions with built in gyros. It will probably be puke inducing however staring through an optic that is being gyro stabalized when you are still rocking and rolling in the waves.

 

[pawprint2]

It is not likely that a camera gyro could/would take the G force(s) exertion placed on the unit as a result of recoil. Also, the small optic gyros are designed for a much lighter unit, for the type of unit you're looking for/ aviation gyros-expensive, need very good quality power/ the ability to "cage" the system at power up, and use a lot of power. What you're putting forth can be done, and is done on many military "heavy"/mounted weapons systems-not just tank guns, however; the cost/weight/cost to maintain etc would far exceed the benefit.

 

[tk427]

http://www.tacticalelectronics.com/...n-mounted-cameras/88/gyro-stabilized-platform

have a look at this option....just whats been described

 

[pawprint2]

The tacticalelectrics ref above, is a military system, $35,000-$50,000 each, over a hundred pounds (with mount) and still requires outside power. Most gyros use AC power, thus they'll have inverters as part of the "package", or in the case of a mil A/C mount, there is high quality AC on board most U.S. A/C utilizing the A/Cs on board inverters. In any case with weapon, large Battery, ammo and the system you'd be looking at 150 pounds minimum (unless you went with very small 10 pound type battery), but a NiCad A/C bat adds weight. All that along with the cost/cycle cost it just does seem like it's coming to a rifle near you anytime soon.

 

[aur0ra145]

Evidently FN has made/is making a fire control system for rifles. Couple that with the mount mentioned above and you'll have something akin to how we fought naval engagements back in the day.

http://www.fnherstal.com/index.php?id=272&backPID=266&productID=107&pid_pr..

 

[tk427]

well i didnt say it was going on your back in your gear..........but for a mounted system on a vehicle, airframe or maritime platform as discussed in the original post it probably beats a cargo strap hung across a doorway!!! - that said i could fit a cargo strap in my pack tho, and last time i checked it would cost less than 40k!!!!!