S ShortShooter1908 Sergeant of the Hide Full Member Minuteman Feb 22, 2018 105 22 Central Ohio Nov 23, 2018 #1 Nov 23, 2018 #1 I have not been able to get a clear picture of what the ATF views as one as opposed to the other. Anyone have some inside info? TIA
I have not been able to get a clear picture of what the ATF views as one as opposed to the other. Anyone have some inside info? TIA
PBWalsh Preston Walsh Fitness Full Member Minuteman Feb 10, 2017 2,638 1,821 31 Central AL Nov 23, 2018 #2 Nov 23, 2018 #2 From what I understand: > 26” OAL pistol (example: 12.5” barelled AR15 with a Shockwave pistol brace) = vertical grip, defined as an AOW (any other weapon) < 26” OAL pistol = angled fore grip / handstop as this is a “pistol” and not an AOW. Any standard rifle (> 16” barrel) can use either. You know... because logic...
From what I understand: > 26” OAL pistol (example: 12.5” barelled AR15 with a Shockwave pistol brace) = vertical grip, defined as an AOW (any other weapon) < 26” OAL pistol = angled fore grip / handstop as this is a “pistol” and not an AOW. Any standard rifle (> 16” barrel) can use either. You know... because logic...
S ShortShooter1908 Sergeant of the Hide Full Member Minuteman Feb 22, 2018 105 22 Central Ohio Nov 23, 2018 #3 Nov 23, 2018 #3 What I am confused by is what makes it a vertical grip vs a hand stop. I have a 11.5" pistol with a Law Tactical folder and a SBa3
What I am confused by is what makes it a vertical grip vs a hand stop. I have a 11.5" pistol with a Law Tactical folder and a SBa3
PBWalsh Preston Walsh Fitness Full Member Minuteman Feb 10, 2017 2,638 1,821 31 Central AL Nov 23, 2018 #4 Nov 23, 2018 #4 I have always thought vertical ment vertical. Handstop being more of a “nub” or basically something too small to constitute as a handle (and not an angled grip). So my BCM short vertical grip (https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM...-Mod-3-KeyMod-Black-p/bcm-vg-km-mod-3-blk.htm) on my AR is a vertical grip whereas their KAG (https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCMGUNFIGHTER-KAG-1913-Picatinny-Rail-Version-p/bcm-kag-1913-blk.htm) is an angled grip and the Magpul handstop (https://www.magpul.com/products/m-lok-hand-stop-kit) is a handstop. All just how I personally view it.
I have always thought vertical ment vertical. Handstop being more of a “nub” or basically something too small to constitute as a handle (and not an angled grip). So my BCM short vertical grip (https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM...-Mod-3-KeyMod-Black-p/bcm-vg-km-mod-3-blk.htm) on my AR is a vertical grip whereas their KAG (https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCMGUNFIGHTER-KAG-1913-Picatinny-Rail-Version-p/bcm-kag-1913-blk.htm) is an angled grip and the Magpul handstop (https://www.magpul.com/products/m-lok-hand-stop-kit) is a handstop. All just how I personally view it.