Help me hoard high end rifles before elections

[1911addict42]

Good morning gents,

I’m a new member here, based in Las Vegas.
I’ve done a lot of reading on this website and have found it to be the most well informed and intelligent when it comes to rifles. Many of the selections you will see below have been based on your input...

Recently, I’ve gone on a buying spree for AR-15 and AR-10’s, due to the possibility of a Democratic government passing legislation and banning the manufacture of new, high capacity firearms.
To better explain:
I think the next psycho (that is currently locked up in his house due to Covid) who does a mass shooting will trigger a large protest, much like the George Floyd protests. The unemployed and the young have more time now, and hot button issues seem to be even hotter right now, with everyone on edge and/or bored. Of course, this is all speculation, but based on the direction things are going... I think there’s a good chance we’ll see it.
I’m stockpiling for my kids and their kids ... my kids are 2 and 5, so many of these guns will remain in their boxes with the tags on. seriously!
Trying to get as many as possible before November...
Money isn’t an object... I mainly want high quality, reliable rifles that will always retain their resale value and have great customer service.
Is there anything else I should consider for purchase? Or just get multiple of the same?
I’m likely looking to add one or two more...

EDIT: Well, I just placed an order for Radian Model 1 in 16' barrel, .223 Wylde. OD Green. Will compliment my other sons Zev Tech. Can't have them fighting over who gets the better gun, so they'll both get a good one hahaha. On to the next one! I think the focus will now be PCC and PDW types

Also ordered a Larue PredatOBR 16 inch barrel. Maybe I'll get it before I'm an old man. Now I Just need a 300 blackout... will save a 9mm PCC for another time.
Anybody have experience with a Honey Badger or Ghetto Blaster? And/or know where to get one? Gunbroker is price gouging.
So far, here’s what I’ve bought:
1 KAC SR-15
1 Zev Tech AR-15 Billet 223
2 POF Renegade Plus- 300 blackout
1 Battle Arms Silent Professional- 300 blackout
1 JP LRI20
2 Wilson Combat Ultralight Ranger

These rifles are meant to be all purpose “battle rifles”... precision combined with durability. So Something like Tavor or bolt action isn’t an option for me.

This isn’t meant as an obnoxious post... I respect the expertise in these rooms and am fairy inexperienced. I want to buy once and cry once, especially with the time crunch factor.

btw, since some of you probably won’t believe it, here’s a picture of us with their POF Renegade, designated for them. (It’s now locked away in storage.the wilson rangers for them are currently in production.)
And guess who took the picture lol?
bet you never saw a Jewboy with a pic like this.

 

[diverdon]

We need more guys like you who are willing to buy at the top of the market.

All kidding aside, welcome to the hide. I'm confident we can keep the White House this November, unless the deep State murders Trump. So you have a little time to shop.

Find a bolt gun you can love. Look hard at the Barrett MRAD and the AI.

 

[BullGear]

Buy ammo. As much as you can get ahold of. Having the firearms is just 1 part of the equation. You need ammo. Right now, ammo is difficult to find. I'd spend most of my time and money on buying lots of ammo.

Good luck!

PS Find a way to stockpile water. As much as you can get between now and November 3rd.

 

[Hobo Hilton]

You are a bit "behind the curve" on your procurement... Supply is dwindeling, regardless of the value placed on an item. Get some sort of training for those kids and grandkids.... Spend an equal amount on optics for each weapon..... Welcome to the forum.

Hobo

 

[1911addict42]

Buy ammo. As much as you can get ahold of. Having the firearms is just 1 part of the equation. You need ammo. Right now, ammo is difficult to find. I'd spend most of my time and money on buying lots of ammo.

Good luck!

PS Find a way to stockpile water. As much as you can get between now and November 3rd.

I’ve got a bunch of ammo, about 10,000 rounds between the various calibers, but that is probably only a short term issue. It’s the high capacity magazines and rifles they’ll be after... I’m not an end of world kinda guy... but I do expect this to become an issue especially when the next psycho that’s locked up due to Covid does a shooting spree with an AR-15; it’s a matter of when, not if.

 

[1911addict42]

You are a bit "behind the curve" on your procurement... Supply is dwindeling, regardless of the value placed on an item. Get some sort of training for those kids and grandkids.... Spend an equal amount on optics for each weapon..... Welcome to the forum.

Hobo

My kids are ages 2 and 5, I have some time lol! Many of those guns will sit in storage for awhile.
im in the market for an optic on the JP, looking at the Burris X3. WJM gave that a real good review

 

[BikePilot]

Get an AI AX or ASR for sure. On the semi auto front I'd add a Tavor 7 and Tavor X95, and a LMT MWS. For the AI and LMT you can get a selection of barrels and shoot various calibers from the same gun with a quick swap, which could be helpful if ammo gets to be in short supply.

 

[hitman]

I have been doing the same thing. I would think about a SCAR and an SR-25, or either one and like others said- ammo. I would not feel like dropping alot of money a bolt gun now since they will never be banned, so that can be a 2021 purchase. Probably look at getting several receivers so you can build what you want later also. I would also suggest at least 20 mags per gun.

 

[1911addict42]

I have been doing the same thing. I would think about a SCAR and an SR-25, or either one and like others said- ammo. I would not feel like dropping alot of money a bolt gun now since they will never be banned, so that can be a 2021 purchase. Probably look at getting several receivers so you can build what you want later also. I would also suggest at least 20 mags per gun.

I’ve looked long and hard at that KAC, but damn that is expensive! I went the JP LRI 20 instead... KAC does seem to get rave reviews, maybe...
I’ve got a bunch of magazines and buy more every week! I’m surprised they’re available, I think that is going to be first up on ban list.
What are some of the great lower receivers to start a good base with?

 

[BikePilot]

The JP LRI is awesome, just different from a KAC or LMT. The JP is a precision, long distance instrument while the KAC, LMT, or seekins SP10M is more of a rugged battle weapon.

 

[1911addict42]

The JP LRI is awesome, just different from a KAC or LMT. The JP is a precision, long distance instrument while the KAC, LMT, or seekins SP10M is more of a rugged battle weapon.

How is Daniel Defense DDM in .308? I wonder if I’ll ever be proficient enough to appreciate the KAC . And LMT is nowhere to be found...

 

[wade2big]

Good evening gents,

I’m a new member here, based in Las Vegas.
I’ve done a lot of reading on this website and have found it to be the most well informed and intelligent when it comes to rifles. Many of the selections you will see below have been based on your input...

Recently, I’ve gone on a buying spree for AR-15 and AR-10’s, due to the possibility of a Democratic government passing legislation and banning the manufacture of new, high capacity firearms. I’m stockpiling for my kids and their kids ... seriously! Trying to get as many as possible before November...
Money isn’t an object... I mainly want high quality, reliable rifles that will always retain their resale value and have great customer service.
there anything else I should consider for purchase? Or just get multiple of the same?
I’m likely looking to add one or two more...

So far, here’s what I’ve bought:
1 KAC SR-15
1 Zev Tech AR-15 Billet 223
2 POF Renegade Plus
1 Battle Arms Silent Proffessional
1 JP LRI20
2 Wilson Combat Ultralight Ranger

This isn’t meant as an obnoxious post... I respect the expertise in these rooms and am fairy inexperienced. I want to buy once and cry once, especially with the time crunch factor.

Here you go OP. A high end bolt rifle at a fraction of the cost. Spare barrel included. You have the semi autos covered.

SOLD - WTS: Sako TRG 22A1 6.5 creedmoor w/ extras NOW $4800

Sako TRG 22A1 chambered in 6.5 creedmoor and cerakoted camo in color. The rifle is in excellent condition with less than 1000 rounds down the factory cold hammer forged barrel. The rifle performs exactly as you would think it would. The rifle comes with the following: unfired spare barrel 6.5...

www.snipershide.com

 

[1911addict42]

Here you go OP. A high end bolt rifle at a fraction of the cost. Spare barrel included. You have the semi autos covered.

SOLD - WTS: Sako TRG 22A1 6.5 creedmoor w/ extras NOW $4800

Sako TRG 22A1 chambered in 6.5 creedmoor and cerakoted camo in color. The rifle is in excellent condition with less than 1000 rounds down the factory cold hammer forged barrel. The rifle performs exactly as you would think it would. The rifle comes with the following: unfired spare barrel 6.5...

www.snipershide.com

Thank you for this. I don’t do any hunting, So I’ve only been looking for semi-auto. What is the benefit of a bolt action over semi auto? Besides, as was pointed out earlier, I have time to buy those, I don’t think they’ll be banned.

 

[1911addict42]

Does anyone have some experience with the POF revolution? That looks great but I’ve seen mixed reviews.
Also looking at PWS, sounds like it’s a good value... if anyone has experience with these would appreciate the feedback.

 

[Powder_Burns]

Thank you for this. I don’t do any hunting, So I’ve only been looking for semi-auto. What is the benefit of a bolt action over semi auto? Besides, as was pointed out earlier, I have time to buy those, I don’t think they’ll be banned.

May I steer you over to arfcom? Being that this is sniper’s hide, most of us are focused on precision rifles, ie bolt-actions. Less moving parts and generally more accurate at distance is the difference.

 

[BikePilot]

How is Daniel Defense DDM in .308? I wonder if I’ll ever be proficient enough to appreciate the KAC . And LMT is nowhere to be found...

Good reputation, I've never shot one though. I'd probably go for a seekins SP10 over the DD.

 

[1911addict42]

May I steer you over to arfcom? Being that this is sniper’s hide, most of us are focused on precision rifles, ie bolt-actions. Less moving parts and generally more accurate at distance is the difference.

I do want guns for precision shooting, but at range... hence a JP. I don’t hunt for religious reasons...
And those guys at arfcom have nowhere near the knowledge that this site does...

 

[wade2big]

Thank you for this. I don’t do any hunting, So I’ve only been looking for semi-auto. What is the benefit of a bolt action over semi auto? Besides, as was pointed out earlier, I have time to buy those, I don’t think they’ll be banned.

They shoot tigher. Easier to shoot well. Both of which Increases effective range with a competent marksman. Typically more reliable. Quieter when suppressed. Less Ammo sensitive. The list goes on and on. There are advantages and disadvantages to both semis and bolt rifles. Many of each is the answer!!!

As far as being banned goes, what difference does it make? You will either have to bury them in the ground somewhere to never see them again or fight the enemies that banned them. No need to answer that question.

 

[1911addict42]

They shoot tigher. Easier to shoot well. Both of which Increases effective range with a competent marksman. Typically more reliable. Quieter when suppressed. Less Ammo sensitive. The list goes on and on. There are advantages and disadvantages to both semis and bolt rifles. Many of each is the answer!!!

As far as being banned goes, what difference does it make? You will either have to bury them in the ground somewhere to never see them again or fight the enemies that banned them. No need to answer that question.

It sounds like the ban will focus on the manufacturing and sale of NEW rifles, while those that are already in someone’s possession will need to be registered with NFA. I don’t think anyone realistically thinks they will actually confiscate rifles we already bought...

 

[Gustav7]

I do want guns for precision shooting, but at range... hence a JP. I don’t hunt for religious reasons...
And those guys at arfcom have nowhere near the knowledge that this site does...

I think the JP was a legit purchase.

I'd be looking into a Scar 17 as well. The Seekins SP10 looks legit and has gotten some good reviews so far. If money were not issues I'd look at Falkor Defense/Nemo Arms AR based long range guns. Their 300WM and 6.5cm options are legit.

I know you've mentioned semi-autos for range, but I'd be looking at all semi-autos, especially ones that are more "scary". I'd invest into some high quality PCC's as well, like the B&T APC9 series, Sig MPX (and MCX as well for 5.56). Banning the importation of legit products is a highly likely occurence too (B&T is european)

I don't have any personal experience with POF, but have heard multiple complaints on here about either customer service or product.

If any ban does come into play I highly suspect it will include "high capacity mags" ... so I'd be investing heavily into mags for all of your arsenal as well.

 

[WillHugh]

I’ve looked long and hard at that KAC, but damn that is expensive! I went the JP LRI 20 instead... KAC does seem to get rave reviews, maybe...
I’ve got a bunch of magazines and buy more every week! I’m surprised they’re available, I think that is going to be first up on ban list.
What are some of the great lower receivers to start a good base with?

Lmt ar10 is the same pattern as an sr25. I picked up an lmt mars heavy lower to throw in the safe recently for the ability to run a Knights upper at a later point. Cost of the stripped lower was approximately $400, so a lot easier to swallow than the cost of a complete sr25 at the moment, and arguably every bit as good of a lower (Knights doesn't sell theirs separately).

 

[1911addict42]

I think the JP was a legit purchase.

I'd be looking into a Scar 17 as well. The Seekins SP10 looks legit and has gotten some good reviews so far. If money were not issues I'd look at Falkor Defense/Nemo Arms AR based long range guns. Their 300WM and 6.5cm options are legit.

I know you've mentioned semi-autos for range, but I'd be looking at all semi-autos, especially ones that are more "scary". I'd invest into some high quality PCC's as well, like the B&T APC9 series, Sig MPX (and MCX as well for 5.56). Banning the importation of legit products is a highly likely occurence too (B&T is european)

I don't have any personal experience with POF, but have heard multiple complaints on here about either customer service or product.

If any ban does come into play I highly suspect it will include "high capacity mags" ... so I'd be investing heavily into mags for all of your arsenal as well.

Ive also seen some mixed reviews on the Nemo with reliability issues... I had my eyes on an XO, but folks on here seemed to think for that kind of money may as well go to a more proven company.
what are some of the “scary” rifles? I wasn’t impressed with the SCAR.
I’m looking very seriously at B&T APC and banshee.
The B&T has proprietary pets while Banshee is an AR15 platform.
I’m torn between those two...

 

[RUTGERS95]

meh, few will pay for those in this market (kac is different) let alone in panic market and especially with loads of unemployment. What you want is ammo
now what you want to buy, if buying weapons, is kac, lmt, colts, .....name, quality, etc

 

[1911addict42]

Lmt ar10 is the same pattern as an sr25. I picked up an lmt mars heavy lower to throw in the safe recently for the ability to run a Knights upper at a later point. Cost of the stripped lower was approximately $400, so a lot easier to swallow than the cost of a complete sr25 at the moment, and arguably every bit as good of a lower (Knights doesn't sell theirs separately).

I have considered buying lowers and assembling my own, for the purpose of learning the platform better.
However, those guns seems to have much lower resale values than an out of the box rifle from a reputable company. That is my hesitation on it...

 

[Powder_Burns]

So are you investing in rifles for resale profit? None of my guns were purchased with the intent of selling for profit.

 

[1911addict42]

So are you investing in rifles for resale profit? None of my guns were purchased with the intent of selling for profit.

No it’s not for profit... but if I don’t like something or get a great offer I’d like the option. I want something that will retain value regardless of wether I actually sell it.

 

[wade2big]

No it’s not for profit... but if I don’t like something or get a great offer I’d like the option. I want something that will retain value regardless of wether I actually sell it.

Don’t buy new guns then. None retain value. The only exception is collector rifles such as foreign made Aks where you are paying for collector value and availability and not the rifle.

 

[Powder_Burns]

KAC will definitely address that for you. Maybe add a SR25 to your stash.

 

[Bakwa]

B&T vote here. I've become pretty impressed with the one's that I've handled.

 

[Gustav7]

Ive also seen some mixed reviews on the Nemo with reliability issues... I had my eyes on an XO, but folks on here seemed to think for that kind of money may as well go to a more proven company.
what are some of the “scary” rifles? I wasn’t impressed with the SCAR.
I’m looking very seriously at B&T APC and banshee.
The B&T has proprietary pets while Banshee is an AR15 platform.
I’m torn between those two...

I have no personal experience with either, but have heard loads of good stuff on the APC series. Parts are always easier to get than the actual guns. Parts themselves, depending on the part, aren't usually subject to any arms importation issues. And these days, a good machinist can make whatever you need. MAC does a whole series of videos on them on youtube you should check out.

The scary rifles I was referring to the newer PCC guns and other non-AR15 styles guns.

What about the SCAR didn't you like? I did not like the 16, but loved the 17.

I'd invest heavily into lowers and AR parts as well, specifically uppers/BCGs/parts kits.... those will be the harder things to get when a ban comes round I figure.

 

[1911addict42]

B&T vote here. I've become pretty impressed with the one's that I've handled.

Any particular caliber or model?
APC9 seems to be most popular. There’s a 10mm out too...
That .308 looks interesting but there’s almost no information/reviews out there...

 

[1911addict42]

I have no personal experience with either, but have heard loads of good stuff on the APC series. Parts are always easier to get than the actual guns. Parts themselves, depending on the part, aren't usually subject to any arms importation issues. And these days, a good machinist can make whatever you need. MAC does a whole series of videos on them on youtube you should check out.

The scary rifles I was referring to the newer PCC guns and other non-AR15 styles guns.

What about the SCAR didn't you like? I did not like the 16, but loved the 17.

I'd invest heavily into lowers and AR parts as well, specifically uppers/BCGs/parts kits.... those will be the harder things to get when a ban comes round I figure.

APC looks fantastic... I was unsure if it’s a good value at that price... but I may take plunge.
I thought the SCAR wasn’t smooth shooting, although I used one at a range that probably gets badly beat up, so maybe that’s a testament to its reliability!
As for parts, I’m too much of an amateur to feel confident in buying the right stuff...

 

[Gustav7]

Any particular caliber or model?
APC9 seems to be most popular. There’s a 10mm out too...
That .308 looks interesting but there’s almost no information/reviews out there...

If I had the money, I'd get the APC9, APC9k, and the APC10 they have now. I don't shoot 10mm but if I made more money and/or invested more of my money into guns, I definitely would shoot 10mm. It'd be a pretty badass package out of the longer barreled APC10.

You could always get both.... get one of the APC series (or two), and one of the CMMG Banshees

LOL well you're not wrong about the SCAR, its not the smoothest thing out there, but its a badass battle rifle.

 

[acudaowner]

you did say hoard so all three sound nice to me picking one of them over the other why just get all three and then decide which you like best . then you have time to mount the other two on the wall that's how a hoarder do .good luck and lots of fun shooting all your new guns . if three is to hard to explain then try two it was a buy one get one I , looking out for little Timmy's future I got it now to save on the cost in the future . besides the best sales are going to be after if trump wins all 2million people who bought there first guns during the scare there is definitely going to be people selling a bunch of who knows what just have to get to those deals before shops buy them and jack up the prices . So having some mad money lying about can't be a bad thing .

 

[hlee]

Bans don’t have to have “grandfather clauses.” They can just be outright bans. If such were to pass, kiss away any resale value on those banned items. Just food for thought.

 

[1911addict42]

you did say hoard so all three sound nice to me picking one of them over the other why just get all three and then decide which you like best . then you have time to mount the other two on the wall that's how a hoarder do .good luck and lots of fun shooting all your new guns .

Haha I said hoard... but I still need to convince the wife that I’m not insane. 3 may be a stretch... but I like the way you’re thinking

 

[1911addict42]

Bans don’t have to have “grandfather clauses.” They can just be outright bans. If such were to pass, kiss away any resale value on those banned items. Just food for thought.

Yes there’s no way to know how it plays out... but an outright ban sounds much less likely. It would be an enormous challenge to confiscate. I see a grandfather clause as a middle ground that won’t upset people to the point that they’d declare war.

 

[theLBC]

APC looks fantastic... I was unsure if it’s a good value at that price... but I may take plunge.
I thought the SCAR wasn’t smooth shooting, although I used one at a range that probably gets badly beat up, so maybe that’s a testament to its reliability!
As for parts, I’m too much of an amateur to feel confident in buying the right stuff...

lol, the scar 20s is extremely smooth or soft shooting. it is just different for people used to shooting ARs.
if you want something that anyone can get behind and hit stuff at 800 yds over and over right off the bat, get one.
also, being piston driven, it doesn't require cleaning as much to keep it running.

 

[RTH1800]

With your stated goals. KAC/DONE.

 

[Hobo Hilton]

My kids are ages 2 and 5, I have some time lol! Many of those guns will sit in storage for awhile.
im in the market for an optic on the JP, looking at the Burris X3. WJM gave that a real good review

My kids are ages 2 and 5, I have some time lol!

No you don't......... At age 5 most of us, on this forum, were shooting a BB gun. We also had a folding pocket knife and were learning to sharpen it.

You have failed to mention your wife / significant other........ Is she on board?

Hobo

 

[1911addict42]

My kids are ages 2 and 5, I have some time lol!

No you don't......... At age 5 most of us, on this forum, were shooting a BB gun. We also had a folding pocket knife and were learning to sharpen it.

You have failed to mention your wife / significant other........ Is she on board?

Hobo

Haha yes she loves the idea... totally on board. Now I need to get something for her, maybe a B&T APC.

 

[Hobo Hilton]

I have considered buying lowers and assembling my own, for the purpose of learning the platform better.
However, those guns seems to have much lower resale values than an out of the box rifle from a reputable company. That is my hesitation on it...

Assemble a low budget AR and go shoot it........ Call it "Paying Your Tuition".... similar to paying for a college class. Knowledge is the one thing that can't be banned, confiscated or stolen.

Hobo

 

[1911addict42]

Assemble a low budget AR and go shoot it........ Call it "Paying Your Tuition".... similar to paying for a college class. Knowledge is the one thing that can't be banned, confiscated or stolen.

Hobo

My kids are ages 2 and 5, I have some time lol!

No you don't......... At age 5 most of us, on this forum, were shooting a BB gun. We also had a folding pocket knife and were learning to sharpen it.

You have failed to mention your wife / significant other........ Is she on board?

Hobo

Here you go bud...

here’s a picture of us with the POF Renegade. (It’s now locked away in storage.the wilsons for them are currently in production.)
And guess who took the picture lol?
bet you never saw a Jewboy with a pic like this.

 

[theLBC]

awwww

 

[TheOE800]

More power to you, especially as an armed and presumably right-wing Jew.

The JP LRI is awesome, just different from a KAC or LMT. The JP is a precision, long distance instrument while the KAC, LMT, or seekins SP10M is more of a rugged battle weapon.

There are KAC 6.5CM SR-25 uppers in production now.

 

[Longshot85]

Do you have any suppressors?

If not I would consider them.

Also, Form 1 are getting approved right at 30 days vs 11 months for a commercial can.

If money is no object, get a trust setup and file 10 form 1's.

Kids love suppressors. I am finishing a form1 now that's 6 inches ....titanium tube, SS internals......mainly will rest on a .300 BO build I am finishing up now too. Form 1's can be very versatile and I shoot everything from .22LR, 5.56 AR (77 grain mostly), and 6.5 bolt action....and i hunt with it.

Good luck and stay safe

 

[1911addict42]

Do you have any suppressors?

If not I would consider them.

Also, Form 1 are getting approved right at 30 days vs 11 months for a commercial can.

If money is no object, get a trust setup and file 10 form 1's.

Kids love suppressors. I am finishing a form1 now that's 6 inches ....titanium tube, SS internals......mainly will rest on a .300 BO build I am finishing up now too. Form 1's can be very versatile and I shoot everything from .22LR, 5.56 AR (77 grain mostly), and 6.5 bolt action....and i hunt with it.

Good luck and stay safe

I just filed for a Sandman- L. Considering more, although I hate how dirty it makes the gun... OSS has a solution for that, but it’s a louder “bang”.
I think considering how heavily regulated it already is, they’ll probably leave those alone for awhile.
I don’t feel as pressured...
As for making it, you’re a pro brother, I’m a beginner. I wouldn’t know where to even start!

 

[Gustav7]

I just filed for a Sandman- L. Considering more, although I hate how dirty it makes the gun... OSS has a solution for that, but it’s a louder “bang”.
I think considering how heavily regulated it already is, they’ll probably leave those alone for awhile.
I don’t feel as pressured...
As for making it, you’re a pro brother, I’m a beginner. I wouldn’t know where to even start!

Making them can prove a little annoying, however there are a few options for kits, where you don't have to make anything. The most difficult portion of a form 1 is the damn E-file lol.

Check out the MOD-U-LESS from Hansohn Brothers. Its a solvent trap that has everything you need. You put in your form 1, once it gets approved, you drill out the individual pieces to make it an official suppressor...and get it engraved with either your info or your trusts info.

Quiet Bore also makes a decent .22 form 1 kit. Thats what I have and I like it....although i'd opt for titanium baffles over the aluminum.

Maybe someone who has pieced together a form 1 centerfire can will enlighten us....

 

[1911addict42]

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Why not pick up a few class III colt ar's and HK MP5's if you're so worried about resale value and cost is no object?

They don’t get me excited... I don’t know why.
Do you, or anybody else have experience with Christensen Arms? They do look nice...
If only I could find a Noveske... those are going to be back ordered for a long, long time

 

[ormandj]

They don’t get me excited... I don’t know why.
Do you, or anybody else have experience with Christensen Arms? They do look nice...
If only I could find a Noveske... those are going to be back ordered for a long, long time

They fit your stated goals, better than anything else you’ve purchased so far. They’re already rare and valuable and will only go up in value over time. There’s many millions of ARs out there, but not so much on the transferable machine gun front. Your choice of course, but just wanted to provide some clarity since you are new to the game.