Hunting & Fishing Help on fishing trip.

[Bryan W M]

Today I had lunch with my dad during lunch he brought up a fishing trip.
Within the next two years he wants to go on a remote fishing trip. He used to do fly in trips in Canada with his dad in the 60-70s so it’s been a few years since he had gone. I have never gone.
We used to do fly fishing trips to CO yearly . He wants to do something different.
What we are looking for is a remote guided fishing trip. He also said it has to be in the USA .
He doesn’t want fly fishing.
No salt water fishing.
That is all he gave me to go on.

Hopefully you guys can help me with ideas .
Also give me questions to be asking the guide.

 

[Kfive73]

Not remote… and it is saltwater…. But I used to go with my dad and brother to key west for tarpon, permit, and bone fish. Those were great trips.

My dad sometimes goes with his buddy to Alaska for salmon and says it’s a blast

 

[Ballistic308]

Look for a guide around Kootenay lake (and it's tributaries) in BC for Kamloop trout or just research it yourself and go have fun.

 

[Modoc]

look for some guides in either Northern CA or Southern OR. I don’t know how remote they get, but there is plenty of awesome fishing here.

These guys have been good to us www.theflyshop.com and might be able to direct you to to others.

 

[goatboy]

Walleye.

minnesota, boundary waters.

 

[Aftermath]

Copper River salmon.
Done.
Moderator you can now lock this thread.

Ok...
I use to rent a cabin from this place during the school year: http://kobukriverlodge.com/index.html
Also fantastic fishing.

 

[Aftermath]

https://arcticwild.com/trip/custom/gates-kobuk-river-rafting-2021/

 

[zeroz]

Go up on the snake or salmon in Idaho and haul in some big sturgeon. Totally different that what it sounds like he's done. Not fly fishing and not salt. Crazy old dinosaurs. Its all catch and release so if he wants to keep meat its out but a cool experience for sure. I dont have any recommendations for guides.

 

[260284]

Walleye.

minnesota, boundary waters.

Lots of big pike and smallmouth up there for when you get tired of catching walleye on every cast.

 

[264win]

Paddle fish in the Yellowstone river

 

[Aftermath]

Go up on the snake or salmon in Idaho and haul in some big sturgeon. Totally different that what it sounds like he's done. Not fly fishing and not salt. Crazy old dinosaurs. Its all catch and release so if he wants to keep meat its out but a cool experience for sure. I dont have any recommendations for guides.

Kilgore Adventures out of Whitebird, ID
Not exactly remote until you are actually in the rivers though.

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[Herb Stoner]

Go up to Alaska and fish the Kenai area for Salmon in season. A guide will take you out and put you on a bunch of salmon to fly home with. You can take a one day or multi-day fly out from there as well. We've stayed at Jimmie Jacks a couple of times and it was great - there are several others in the area as well.

Easy button!

 

[powdahound76]

@Bryan W M

Lemme think a bit.
I worked in Soldotna and still go up to fish some.
Kenai for Sockeye is great.
Fly out a day, or to camp, is all there.

My favorite fly out service closed, but Talon AIR is solid too.

Lemme check a couple other places I know and where old buddies are guiding now.

Its a whole nother kind of fishing. But awesome.
So many amazing views too.

Me with a Kenai Red in 2017 or so.
At my buddies cabin with 200 yds of private river bank.

 

[Aftermath]

Definitely NOT remote but this is about 10 miles upstream the Clearwater River from Orofino, ID. Steelhead. Just an average one, not a real trophy, but also a non-keeper. Note the intact adipose fin near my left thumb. There are several good guides available but I HIGHLY recommend drift boat to actually catch fish and not be with 10 or 12 other people in a jet sled that you don't know.

 

[powdahound76]

Definitely NOT remote but this is about 10 miles upstream the Clearwater River from Orofino, ID. Steelhead. Just an average one, not a real trophy, but also a non-keeper. Note the intact adipose fin near my left thumb. There are several good guides available but I HIGHLY recommend drift boat to actually catch fish and not be with 10 or 12 other people in a jet sled that you don't know.
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Cool you took your grandpa fishin….

I kid. Looks like a great day out on the river!!

 

[Aftermath]

Downstream a ways same river. Bad lighting for pic but you get the idea.

 

[Aftermath]

Cool you took your grandpa fishin….

I kid. Looks like a great day out on the river!!

Always some young irreverent green horn wet behind the ears clown around.

Edit to say that I am just messing around. No offense intended and none taken.

 

[powdahound76]

Always some young irreverent green horn wet behind the ears clown around.

Im old and greying too.
Aint stoppin me from bustin chops though.

Ask old @Threadcutter308
He was there when Moses was born. And I remind him daily.

 

[Aftermath]

Cool you took your grandpa fishin….

I kid. Looks like a great day out on the river!!

Step dad. First time out on a drift boat in his life. First western steelhead. It was cold as fuck. Line freezing in the reels.
He grew up in Minnesota and AF Vietnam Veteran.
I have called him "Old Man" for a very long time. He loves the nickname. Damned good guy and I love him.
My dad and both gramps been gone a long time now.

 

[Bryan W M]

@Aftermath those caught with fly or spinner?

 

[Aftermath]

@Aftermath those caught with fly or spinner?

I use a Luhr-Jensen diver. Sometimes the Jet diver, sometimes the Dipsy. Then around 6 to 8 feet of leader and a salted sand shrimp. Barbless hooks per regs. I use a single point trailing out of head, a treble hook in the tail closest to me and a toothpick in between to help keep it stretched out. Usually a set of beads also to help stiffen the line between the hooks. Be sure to remove the fan of the tail. Then drift into the holes. It really takes 2 guys to fish, one on the oars and the other on the rod. Even better with 3 guys, 2 fishing. A choice hole will have a back eddy so you can catch a ride back upstream to the the top and run it again and again and again.

The spey type fishermen do not catch anywhere near as many fish but they look cool while trying.

Spinners, diving-ratttling lures also work better than the flies, USUALLY. But nothing beats the salt impregnated sand shrimp.

 

[zeroz]

Im surprised treble hooks are legal if barbs arent. Nothin tears up a trouts mouth like a good treble hook.

 

[Aftermath]

Im surprised treble hooks are legal if barbs arent. Nothin tears up a trouts mouth like a good treble hook.

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[Bryan W M]

@Aftermath can you post a picture of the rig?

 

[Aftermath]

@Aftermath can you post a picture of the rig?

I'll see what I can come up with. I am in the middle of a move and all of my fishing gear is already stashed, I MIGHT have an actual pic. If not, I'll try to sketch. I'll be back.

 

[Aftermath]

I had to resize the file and see that the single hook out of the head is not quite showing. It goes in the top and out where the mouth tentacle things are. I like to use a fairly long shank hook, usually a red one size 2/0, hook facing up. The fish often just barely grab it and if the hook is down, they will feel it more readily and let go before you realize they had the bait.
The treble hook (2/0 but shorter shank), feed in the top hook from the wound left when you pulled off the fan tail.
You will need to tie these hooks a distance apart depending on the size of the shrimp. I like to use silver/chrome bb sized beads between the hooks, just a little flash. Columbia Basin Baits have real uniform sized shrimp and I can usually figure out that spacing on the first shrimp I pull out of the jar and tie up a couple of leaders ahead of time. Fishing in the Clearwater, we rarely get snagged.
The toothpick...I like the flat ones because they break easy. I stick a toothpick up from the head into the tail and try real hard to make the shrimp straight, like he's really reaching for some water to push back to his head. If the toothpick is too long, break it off. I have tried and occasionally will try again, using a half hitch on the tail tight against the toothpick.
The motion of boat bobbing around, the oars slowing the boat down and the current speeding it back up, the general turbulence of the river makes the lure dance all around. The salt attracts the fish, entices them to hang on a little longer. I am not real convinced that color matters but I usually use the green glo. Set that hook like you are offshore. These fish do not have soft mouths.
Last bit of advice is to wear gloves when handling the shrimp or you will taste it in your beer, your peanut butter and jelly and everything else. I use to use the latex things but they are a nuisance if your hands are wet at all. I just use some rubber impregnated cotton gloves now. Or did. I move to Oklahoma so it will be a bit before I get back up there the steelhead.