Hiking in AZ & UT with rifle and/or handgun

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#1
Ok Gang.
Amber and I will be heading to AZ in May to spend 7-10 days of hiking around,etc.
Most of our time we will be up in the north eastern part of AZ and southern UT exploring the Anasazi ruins,etc.

Would like to hear from you Arizonians about laws and packing a gun while out hiking around. Here in CA. it is pretty simple as far as laws and guns go...if it has to do with guns just expect it to be illegal!

And...maybe we could meat up with some fellow Hide members?

Take care,Stan
 
#2
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Stan... as long as you are not on reservation land, pack it! The only thing about it is, alot of north east az belongs to the Navajo. If you are going to be anywhere near the Cottonwood-Sedona area, would be great to meet up with yall!
 
#3
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We will in fact be staying in Sedona at my sisters.

I was wondering about reservation land. I just do not like being out in the middle of no where unarmed.

I will drop you a PM as it gets closer to our trip time so maybe we can meet up.

Take care,Stan
 
#4
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I think it depends entirely on the who "runs the mountain" weather it be the state or indian reservation. If it's reservation land you need to talk to whoever's land you'll be on. And under no circumstances disobey their rules.

I know over here on Superstition Mountain, they don't want you to be packing, but I don't know how strict they are...

Just check with whoever runs the areas you're looking at to be absolutly sure about the rules and regulations just to be safe and sure.

-Dylan
 
#5
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The simple law of the land is that Arizona is an open carry state. You can carry anywhere unless it is posted otherwise. Tribal lands are Sovereign Land, meaning that they are not actually part of the state. Local Law enforcement might not "like it", but the law is the law. Az has also done away with the need to have a CCW permit, but I am not very verbose on that
 
#6
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UT recognizes any states Concealed Firearm Permit, so if you have one you are good to go concealed. If you do not have a Concealed Permit, UT allows individuals to open carry. Open carry, means that the firearm is in plain view and is statutorily unloaded. For purposes of a semi-auto, the pistol cannot have a round in the chamber. So shut the slide on an empty chamber and insert a loaded mag and your are statutorily unloaded in Utah. If you are open carrying a revolver, no ammunition can be in the firing position or the next position in the cylinder.

UT also allows individuals to carry loaded hand guns in their vehicles if they are over 18 and own the vehicle or have permission from the owner of the vehicle.

Reservation lands may have their own rules regarding firearms.
 
#10
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Stan and Amber
Welcome to AZ. You guys should have a lot of fun up north, where the weather is a bit more tolerable in May.

As far as packing heat is concerned, AZ is a no permit required for conceal carry, unless otherwise posted by either the establishment or you are on reservation land. With the later, you just don't want to go there. Your weapons and belongings can and most likely be confiscated. As for carrying, the key word is concealed, therefore, other people shouldn't know that you are carrying. Have fun and take lots of pictures. (of course, don't forget to post them).
 
#12
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People aren't kidding about the injuns confiscating your toys.

Buddy of mine lost a Beretta 92, Para 1911, Stoeger coach, and custom Ruger 10/22,

Supposedly, everything started off friendly and conversational, got to "whatcha shooting", followed by "nice, mine now".

When you see big screen plasma TVs sittin IN THE YARD of trash corrugated-tin walled houses, you know you've gone too far.


Welcome to our non-PC state.
 
#13
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KSwift</div><div class="ubbcode-body">People aren't kidding about the injuns confiscating your toys.

Buddy of mine lost a Beretta 92, Para 1911, Stoeger coach, and custom Ruger 10/22,

Supposedly, everything started off friendly and conversational, got to "whatcha shooting", followed by "nice, mine now".

When you see big screen plasma TVs sittin IN THE YARD of trash corrugated-tin walled houses, you know you've gone too far.


Welcome to our non-PC state. </div></div>

Did he willingly hand over his firearms? Unless they are law enforcement (maybe) <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">and</span></span> I am going to get them back, good luck on getting mine. That is just crazy for handing them over willingly.
 
#14
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It is highly unlikely that you will encounter any problems in arizona carrying. Dont go to the reservation without a firearm, if you break down and your phone doesnt work which it will not in some places you might regret it...
Enjoy your trip
 
#15
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It is highly unlikely that you will encounter any problems in arizona carrying. Dont go to the reservation without a firearm, if you break down and your phone doesnt work which it will not in some places you might regret it...
Enjoy your trip
 
#16
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As long as you are on a public road in a reservation your fine but as soon as you leave the road your not in kansas anymore. Then your subject to what ever the local tribal laws and regulations are. Other than reservation land you shouldnt run into any problems, Enjoy AZ its a great state, I am from the verde valley area as well and i can say there are plenty of fantastic places and things to see in those parts.
 
#17
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: komifornian</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was under the impression that as long as you're in a national forest or on BLM land you can open cary in any state. </div></div>
That blanket statement is not quite correct and is subject to the nuances of states laws.
 
#18
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Thanks guys. We are both excited about the trip...Amber has never been to AZ before and it has been MANY years since I was there. I just do not like being unarmed and especially when out in the back country.

I am hoping to have time to stop in Flagstaff and take a CCW class.


Take care,Stan
 
#19
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Live in SLC UT Used to be LE in AZ. AZ is open carry and now has the concealed carry law of "If asked by LE, you have to disclose".
UT is open carry, concealed is still by permit.
Both are for if you are not hunting.
 
#20
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: whit</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KSwift</div><div class="ubbcode-body">People aren't kidding about the injuns confiscating your toys.

Buddy of mine lost a Beretta 92, Para 1911, Stoeger coach, and custom Ruger 10/22,

Supposedly, everything started off friendly and conversational, got to "whatcha shooting", followed by "nice, mine now".

When you see big screen plasma TVs sittin IN THE YARD of trash corrugated-tin walled houses, you know you've gone too far.


Welcome to our non-PC state. </div></div>

Did he willingly hand over his firearms? Unless they are law enforcement (maybe) <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">and</span></span> I am going to get them back, good luck on getting mine. That is just crazy for handing them over willingly. </div></div>

+1, my policy with Indians is first avoid at all cost's, and second, if you must, RUN! they cannot confiscate anything if its out of their reach. Obviously if your dealing with LE then that is not an option, and you should have followed the first policy more closely.
 
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