Rifle Scopes Horus Vision H-27 Reticle?

[ranger1183]

If anyone has a line on where to get a scope with the Horus Vision H-27 reticle, please let me know.

Yes, I know that one of these recently sold. But that one is gone and no longer available.

Also, I am NOT looking for the H-58 reticle even though some consider it to be "almost the same thing" Thanks!

 

[steve123]

Re: Horus Vision H-27 Reticle?

I believe Premier has them for their scopes.

 

[ranger1183]

Re: Horus Vision H-27 Reticle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe Premier has them for their scopes. </div></div>

That's what I thought, but I got a big "NO" from Paul @ Premier. They put some of these in S&B's a while back, but he said they don't carry them now. It's a shame as that is such a great reticle IMO.

 

[steve123]

Re: Horus Vision H-27 Reticle?

That's to bad but not surprised.

I was tempted to get that S&B that Diggler had a while back myself

but ended up ordering a NF-F1,10 mil knobs,ZS with the H-58 instead.

 

[ranger1183]

Re: Horus Vision H-27 Reticle?

do you have any through the scope pics of the H-58? If so, can you post one with the scope set on it's highest power?

 

[hank440]

Re: Horus Vision H-27 Reticle?

here you go ranger

http://swfa.com/Leupold-45-14x50-Mark-4-ERT-30mm-Riflescope-P47636.aspx

 

[ranger1183]

Re: Horus Vision H-27 Reticle?

many thanks, but what I'd really like to see is a through the scope picture of a scope <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">that is actually for sale</span></span> that has the h-27 reticle.

In the mean time, I'll just keep dreaming ...

 

[steve123]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">do you have any through the scope pics of the H-58? If so, can you post one with the scope set on it's highest power? </div></div>

According to Euro Optic I won't be getting the scope till January.I'll put a pic up when it arrives.

 

[One-Eyed Jack]

Re: Horus Vision H-27 Reticle?

I believe that you can order a S&B 4-16x PMII with the H27. It's a $500 option.

 

[ranger1183]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: One-Eyed Jack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe that you can order a S&B 4-16x PMII with the H27. It's a $500 option.</div></div>
I hope that is true, but this is the response from EuroOptics that I received:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EuroOptic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It does not appear we would be able to order this, but we are unable to get anyone on the phone At S&B to confirm this. THe 37 and 58 are definitely available though. </div></div>

 

[One-Eyed Jack]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">many thanks, but what I'd really like to see is a through the scope picture of a scope <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">that is actually for sale</span></span> that has the h-27 reticle.</div></div>
You didn't say what you want to learn from looking at a through-the-scope image. As someone mentioned, there are a few Leupolds available with the H-27, but their fields of view (FOV) are only 60-70% of the S&B's, and the S&B's image quality is better. With the H27 cluttering up the bottom of the sight picture, I think the clear FOV at the top and sides of the reticle becomes more important with a Horus. On the other hand, the Leupold is only 2/3 the price of the Schmidt und Bender! I had a USO with the H-37 and found that I needed to use it on the highest power (22x) to see well between the grid lines (or so I thought). If that scope had a mil dot or GAP reticle, I would still have it. The Horus isn't for everyone.

 

[ssgp2]

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My interest in seeing a pic of the H27 or H58 is about the horizontal line hight at the top magnification.

My H37 SN3 is almost at the roof of the scope at 22x.

I wish for a reticle that would not go over 1/3 for the first horizontal line(zero)

 

[Witch_Doctor]

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Oh Christmas Tree, oh Christmas Tree, oh how my reticle blocks what I see

Could resist, I will leave the thread alone now.

 

[One-Eyed Jack]

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The H-37 is called an "extreme range" reticle and is placed high in the sight picture to access the larger holdovers. The H-58 and H-27 are not extreme range reticles and their zeros appear to be centered in the sight picture.

 

[ssgp2]

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Question remains, how high the reticle at 25x and how many mils of elevation visible(25x)?

Ranger, do you have other pics of this reticle at what is the magnification?

 

[Lindy]

Re: Horus Vision H-27 Reticle?

Given that you can dial elevation on the scope to bring the elevation "down", why do you care?

For example, if I were shooting targets beyond 1000 yards, I could dial 10 mils on the scope. Then I'd have at least 10 mils of usable elevation starting at 10 mils and going up.

 

[ssgp2]

Re: Horus Vision H-27 Reticle?

My problem with the H37 is that at 22x, the full view of the scope is through the reticle.
This makes it hard to see conditions like mirage.

I enjoy the design of the Horus reticle, but for my needs, I would prefer a reticle that would leave at least 30% of the upper view clear and around10 Mils of elevation at 25x.

In regard to windage, stradia that would match the ballistics of a 308 would be enough.

I understand that the scope is not limited to the elevation of the reticle and that adjusting the zero for 200 or 300yds will allow me more distance from the reticle

 

[MikeeBooshay]

Re: Horus Vision H-27 Reticle?

Ranger, have you called USO yet? That picture of the H27 is out my kitchen thru the back yard, and it is on a USO 3x17. If you are OK with a USO scope, I would think they could do another one for you too.

Having said all that, I am looking at a H58 or Gen 2XR for the next reticle/scope deal.

Good luck, let us know what you find.

 

[TnRedneck]

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First let me apologize if you have your answer. I saw your question on Google and didn't read all the replys.

Leupold has just started shipping the new Mark 4 with the Horus reticle. The model number with the H27 is 110086 with a MSRP of 2279.99. US Optics can get them for $2279.99 (wow, that is a bargin.) Nightforce will have the NXS but they are going to have the Horus H58 reticle. Haven't talked to Alex at Eurooptics yet to check the price.

ETA: The model number mentioned above is for the 6.5x20x50 M5 version.

 

[ranger1183]

Re: Horus Vision H-27 Reticle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jgarr46322</div><div class="ubbcode-body">First let me apologize if you have your answer. I saw your question on Google and didn't read all the replys.

Leupold has just started shipping the new Mark 4 with the Horus reticle. The model number with the H27 is 110086 with a MSRP of 2279.99. US Optics can get them for $2279.99 (wow, that is a bargin.) Nightforce will have the NXS but they are going to have the Horus H58 reticle. Haven't talked to Alex at Eurooptics yet to check the price.

ETA: The model number mentioned above is for the 6.5x20x50 M5 version. </div></div>

thanks for the tip!