Night Vision Host 22 for night varmint hunting

elwarpo

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Dec 15, 2011
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North of Houston, TX
Have a PVS 30 and looking for a 22LR rifle to plink and get rid of racoons, skunks...

Will be using a can, so a threaded barrel is necessary.

Thinking of the S&W 15-22, any other suggestions for a 22 that can take the PVS 30?

Has anyone used a red dot with a PVS 30? Shooting will be within 100 yards, mostly within 50 from a stand. I know the PVS 30 is overkill but I have it...

Do not need a precision rifle for this, just something 1-2 MOA and under $500
 
I use a CMMG .22LR upper ... my particular model is discontinued ... here is the new one ..

https://www.cmmginc.com/product/upper-group-resolute-300-mk4-22lr/

Mine is same size as a 16 inch 5.56 would be with a full rail ... so depending on the optic a 30 would work ...

And any optic with close enough optical center height should work.

I usually use a 1x thermal ... either Q-14, ODIN or Patrol ... for my vermin control ...

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Much more mobile !! :)
 
The benefit of semi auto fire for killing of multiple vermin cannot be over estimated. I often spend a good bit of time getting a shot then get several opportunities at once.
I would look for a good heavy barrel 10/22 with stock set up for your needs.
 
Love using my 15-22/PVS 30/spectre for mouse and other critter hunting. Got the shorter mags for rifle and that helps keep things less bulky.

Reliable, quiet, and already has the rails for the PVS and illuminator.
 
Yes the most important thing to me about these 22lr night setups is reliability. I had two other uppers ... and they sucqued ... but with the CMMG upper and the Sig 10 rd mags ... I have about 1 mis-fire a year ... in rain or snow ... after not cleaning it for a year ... and that tells me I need to clean it.
I only shoot eley 40gr hp subs for last three years ... I even shoot dots with those rds ... they are very accurate ... and under the thermal the mice "explode" when you get a solid hit.
 
Thanks Wig, looks like I will be saving up a bit more, with weight being less of an issue which do you prefer? I will be firing from a tripod in a stand on my rural land (30 acres mostly open with no buildings). Tired of critters getting into my stuff stored there. Goal is to set up a platform and wait...
 
Well, the CMMG I have I can attest is HIGHLY reliable in conjunction with the eley hp subs ... the tacsol I have a highly reliable shooting buddy telling me the tacsol is also very reliable ... and my hope is that with a full gun, that would maximize the reliability. Though all mis-fries with the CMMG have been in snow or rain with a dirty gun. So don't think the lower is a factor, but a matched lower could not make things worse at the very least!

So, I can tell you the CMMG uppers are highly reliable (with the sig 10rd mags and the eley hunting subs).

As to shooting a .22lr from a stand ... that wouldn't work for me ... there are a number of spots within our 5 acre "human area" where the vermin hang out. The wood piles .. the wood shed and the dirt piles ... so I need to patrol about and visit all those locations to get full coverage of all the vermin houses each night I am on vermin patrol. And we have 15 bait boxes deployed across our 7 structures. The bait boxes get an est. 80% of the vermin, I get est. 10% (avg 80 per year) and 10% survive to maintain the population. Before I was doing my thing, our bait box guy was reporting the bait boxes were 100% empty, when he replaced them quarterly. Now he reports a variance of between 50% empty and 100% empty, depending on the box. Also for three years I got about 10 rats in the wood shed. This year I have seen ZERO rats in the wood shed and that is inexplicable. Though I did clean it up and got rid of the tiny twigs we used for starter.

So in my situation I need to move around to cover all the necessary locations. Your situation may differ in those requirements.

As to Coons and Opossum. I get about 20 of those per year, 80% in Nov during the season change ... and I've gotten about half with .22lr and half with 5.56 ... I've found 5.56 can handle with one round whereas .22lr can take up to 8 to get a opossum to fall out of the tree. He might already be dead ... or he might be "playing opossum" ... but I don't stop shooting until I have a non-mover on the ground.

As to coyotes, I wouldn't hesitate to shoot at a coyote with the .22lr, but the opportunity has not presented itself, so all the yotes have been with 5.56 or 7.62. As the vermin population seems to have been reduced in the 5 acre human area, I've shifted the mix of my patrols to heavier guns ... 2 years ago I was 80% .22lr and 20% 5.56 ... now I'm 70% 7.62 15% 5.56 and 15% .22lr though the .22lr gets higher numbers of kills ... in the past 45 days ...50% for the .22lr and most of the rest with the 7.62 ...
 
Either one rat and 5 mice ... or 1 rat and 5 babies ... all got within 10m patroling around the green house ... displayed on wingwall of green house ... with .22lr and armasight q-14 1x thermal.

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Three rats from around the wood shed ... one was hidding in a tree and I had to talk around the wood shed to get it from the other side ... while doing that stalk, I got one in the woodshed that ran up to the top of the kindling pile and halted for the shot ... the other was huddled right up against the wall of the outside and I had to line up the shot right along the wall to avoid hitting the wall. Meanwhile, the one in the tree, waited for me to get around the other side of the woodshed and the other side of the tree, so I could get that one. Some nights they help you.

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Other nights, they don't. One night I missed 2 and got 1 all were using the "steel pipe defense". Go run and hide in the steel pipe. I got one, because I aimed at the entrance he went in and he stuck his head out to see what was up. Blam, exploded. With the others, they ran in the pipes and stayed ... I fired into the pipes, but no confirmation.

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Won't bore you with more ... but not only does it reduce the vermin population, but it is good practice with the gear as well. :)
 
Thanks, what I want to do is practice with night vision. My goal is to have many different units for different purposed, mixing thermal and IR. Currently I have an Aurora 8010 day/night scope on an AR and a PVS 30 I have been practicing with on mt RPR in 6.5CM. I want to practice with the stuff I have to really know what I really need for my style. My land is 30 acres with half of it open field (100 yard range) and the rest covered with mature trees so little undergrowth. Being in MI it is flat, so no berms... blocking LOS. since there are no buildings, mice /rats/squirrels do not bother me. It is raccoons and the odd possum that tears stuff up. I know spotting with IR will be more difficult than thermal but I am using what I have. I have neighbors around so a silenced 22 will be less intrusive. Thanks for the tip on the eley 22 subsonic. My other option if I find 22 is not enough is a 9mm/300blk subsonic load with a suppressor. I also do not want a skip round going too far, hence a slower closer range round.
 
Aye, that all makes sense. You can kill any Coon or Opossum with a .22lr ... Coons, my average is probably 2 rds fired per dead coon. For opossum maybe 3.5 ... but I do remember firing 8 at one opossum one time before it fell out of the tree.

I take three mags with 9 rounds each and a partial box of 25-50 rds when I go out with the .22lr ...

Turning on an illuminator will help light up there eyes, but will make it harder to see them thru vegetation and the "light" will bounce off the vegetation and bounce back at you causing wash out. But then seeing behind vegetation with NV, is only possible for me with full moon over head ... the big flash light in the sky.
 
Well decided to modify my MAA AR15. It has the Mid America Armaments quick change barrel system and full rail. This allows 223. 300BO and 22LR from the same rifle, about 15 seconds to change caliber without tools. Went with the stainless CMMG bolt/3mag package and a 22LR barrel 1:16 with feed ramp from grid defense. Total cost with MAA adapter was under $300. I figure go out with 1 rifle and a couple of barrels and can quickly go from 22 to 223 or 300 BO subsonic as needed.