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How accurate can you be with a red dot?

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  • Apr 25, 2017
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    Pretty damned accurate if you use the right target and know how to shoot with aperture sights

    Five shots at 50 yards. That ten ring is 1 centimeter in diameter.
    CZ 452 5 rnds 50 yds.jpg


    20 shots at 100 yards. Had to hold over with the bottom edge of the dot about an inch above the top of the bull. Once I figured it out, the ten ring took a beating
    CZ 452 20 rnds 100 yd.jpg



    Looking back from the 100 yd line
    100 yds.jpg


    The rifle: CZ 452 Trainer with an old Aimpoint CompC. Ammo was Norma TAC22
    452 with aimpoint left.jpg


    Yep, that's a 4 MOA dot.

    The key is to use a target with a bull larger than the dot itself. The 50 meter target I used has a 4" bull, which is 8 MOA at 50 yards. That meant that I could easily center the dot in the bull just like I used to center the bull in the aperture sights when I shot smallbore and highpower.

    The 100 yd target is the highpower 300 yard rapid fire target reduced to 100 yards. The bull is 6 MOA and the ten ring is a little under 2 MOA. I had to hold over it due to the 7 MOA drop at 100 yards with a 50 yd zero.

    The other key point is to not overstare the shot. As I learned from David Tubb: make it good and dump it. I basically would establish NPA, breath in (which lowers the muzzle) then slowly exhale watching the dot come into the bull. As soon as the dot looks centered, break the shot correctly.

    Overstaring the sight picture is death.
     
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