Gunsmithing How much KG is required for one barreled action?

#2
Re: How much KG is required for one barreled action?

depends on what your spraying with. Airbrush I've done as little as half an ounce, detail spray gun up to 2 ounces. The larger spray guns give more even coverage generaly but also have a lot more over spray.
 
#3
Re: How much KG is required for one barreled action?

it does not take much only a few ounces per rifeled acton. It is only to go on 3 mills thick so not very thick. We use it alot and have gone through alot but we do a lot of guns a year. Good luck and have fun i enjoy using it.
 
#4
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So do you guys usually spray inside the action also? I was thinking about just putting an empty shell in the chamber to block that off, and a plug in the muzzle, but the tolerances arent that tight on my Savage anyway where it shouldnt cause a problem. That saves a lot of headache with taping off and also would look much better.

I also got some air cure 1200 for my scope, any hints/tricks for keeping the etchings and still look good coating it a different color than black?

Thanks
 
#5
Re: How much KG is required for one barreled action?

I coat inside on most guns, the paint will be worn off where it needs to be gone within 10 rds. keeping the etchings is a pain with KG but a cinch with Cerakote. YMMV though
 
#7
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Well I tried it out yesterday. I think I need some work with the airbrush though. I thought I had it tuned pretty good, but it was spraying SO light that it took me literally almost 20min to coat just the barreled action, and it is still on there so light that you can see through the KG. The bolt and scope rings turned out good though.

Onto the scope, well, inbetween spraying the 2400 and the 1200 I dropped the airbrush and it mustve adjusted something. Because it was all the sudden spraying WAY more liquid, too much infact because it ran like a mofo. Going to have to reblast the scope and try again.

Can you spray the 2400 Gunkote directly ontop of itself, or do I need to start over?
 
#8
Re: How much KG is required for one barreled action?

Spray it over itself. An airbrush is a biotch to use when spraying larger items. Use a gravity feed HVLP gun from Harbor Freight or a paint & body shop supply. Your results will greatly improve.
 
#9
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wnroscoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Get the 8oz cans. That'll cover more than one rifle but wont be too much to have on hand. Purchase direct from KG.</div></div>

I think I'm getting about 3 barreled actions per 8oz. can.
 
#10
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bsp212</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wnroscoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Get the 8oz cans. That'll cover more than one rifle but wont be too much to have on hand. Purchase direct from KG.</div></div>

I think I'm getting about 3 barreled actions per 8oz. can. </div></div>

I will have to look, but I think you only have 16oz, and 32oz cans. So its 3 barreled actions per 16ozs.
 
#11
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I thought about the HVLP but thought Id have too much overspray. Maybe ill return the airbrush to harbor freight and grab their HVLP touch up gun to redo the barrel. Thanks for the tips guys.
 
#12
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jonaddis84</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought about the HVLP but thought Id have too much overspray. Maybe ill return the airbrush to harbor freight and grab their HVLP touch up gun to redo the barrel. Thanks for the tips guys. </div></div>



Pre heat the parts to 120 to 200 degrees and make sure there is no oil leaching from the barrel joint. Completely degrease the part with MEK or Brake Parts Cleaner and I mean completely. Regulate the air pressure to 50psi on the gun, regulate the spraying pressure to 20-25psi. Adjust the material flow valve to 3/4 of a turn out and the fan control to ½ a turn out. Keep the gun 8-10" away from the part being sprayed and in constant motion. Spray for complete coverage.
 
#13
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Ill do just that. Do you have any tips for using the 1200 stock kote on scopes? Obviously I cant heat up the scope at all the keep the runs off. I guess I just need to do a few light coats to get it right.
 
#14
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pwc001</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bsp212</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wnroscoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Get the 8oz cans. That'll cover more than one rifle but wont be too much to have on hand. Purchase direct from KG.</div></div>

I think I'm getting about 3 barreled actions per 8oz. can. </div></div>

I will have to look, but I think you only have 16oz, and 32oz cans. So its 3 barreled actions per 16ozs. </div></div>

You're right, I bought the pint size cans.
 
#15
Re: How much KG is required for one barreled actio

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jonaddis84</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ill do just that. Do you have any tips for using the 1200 stock kote on scopes? Obviously I cant heat up the scope at all the keep the runs off. I guess I just need to do a few light coats to get it right. </div></div>

Several light passes with the 1200. First use scotch bright to scuff the surface up a little and degrease/clean.
 
#16
Re: How much KG is required for one barreled actio

Thanks a lot for all the help. The HVLP touch up gun was the ticket. HF had it on sale for $40 from $60 today, only problem is that it blows through some serious quantities of paint. I have no idea how whoever said they only need .5oz for a whole barreled action is doing it. I probably used a good 3-4oz just second coating the barrel over what I did with the airbrush.

All that matters though is that it turned out great. The scope looks awesome as well. I probably should have just scuffed the original coating on it (I sandblasted the scope), it turned out fine, but my zoom ring got a few grains of sand under it and it crunches now, not too bad though I think theyll work out over time.

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#17
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Looks like shit jon.. you should probably just give it to me.

Nice work. Im surprised you had the guts to coat your phantom. Now, once we teach you how to shoot, you'll be all set.
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#18
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The can didnt take any guts to do, it was the scope (yeah even though its only a $400 scope) that took the balls to tape off and sandblast.

I did notice that I may have ruined the glass coating a little bit, I used MEK on it and I think some may have worked its way in through the sunshade and dripped on the lens when I flipped it over. There is one small spot on the obj lens where it looks like the coating is gone.
 
#19
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Here is a tip for anyone that may DIY the 1200 Stock Kote. DO NOT use MEK or any petroleum based thinner/cleaner to clean your stock, scope caps, or anything plastic/rubber. I didnt eat anything with it, as I just put a very small amount on a rag and wiped it off. But it must have been enough to soak into the plastic and the coating would not stick to anything after that.

I ended up having to wipe everything back off (coating just peeled right back off the stock) and steel wool it, then wash with soap and water. After that it worked great.

So for plastics and stocks, just clean with soap and water, and if you have a heat gun dry it off with that. Heating the part up definitely helps also before spraying. Even the stock, caps, and scope I heated up to about 130F before spraying and it worked awesome.
 
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