Maybe this is a dumb thread...if so it will die.
But I've always been amazed how well certain hunting or varmint rifles will shoot. NOT talking about that anomalous, occasional good group. I'm talking about a rifle that will CONSISTENTLY shoot a MOA or LESS 3-5 shot group, TO THE SAME POINT OF IMPACT, year after YEAR.
Also referring to HUNTING ammo, not Match grade........... and basic off the shelf rifles or maybe a simple re barrel.
Yesterday my interest in this was again reinforced when I checked zero on an old Win M-70. This is a pre 64 gun, wearing a HART 24" in .257 Roberts AI. The gun was re barreled with an exact clone of the original taper, down to the rear sight hump. It was not pillar bedded, glass bedded , nothing. Simply barreled and stuck back into it's original circa 1958 stock. It has consistently shot 1/2" to 5/8" for 3-5 shots at 100 yds with 115 gr Nosler BT's. I could take several years worth of test targets stacked up..... you would see one ragged hole at 1.5" above point of aim. The zero never seems to waiver.
About 15 years back I took a Weatherby Ultra Light Weight as a trade on an old, beat up Colt SAA I had recently traded into. New in box, in .280 Rem, with a Leupold 2.5-8X, rings/bases and three boxes of Federal Premium, 150 gr Nosler partiton,factory ammo.
I intended to scope it and sell it as a package at the next weeks gun show. UNTIL I shot it. Capable of 1" off the bench at 200 yds and 1/2" or or less at 100 yds. With FACTORY hunting ammo! I was never a Weatherby fan but KEPT that gun and it has accounted for several deer, half a dozen elk and a couple of antelope. ALL one shot kills. Same thing with the ULW. I can take several years worth of targets and the POI seldom varies by more than a fraction of an inch.
Taken with the .280 Rem ULW at 300+ yds.
Over the past 20-30 years I have had built Customs with the best barrels, expensive glass stock, all of it meticulously assembled and finished and a few of them have been very much MEDIOCRE shooters. WHY these two rifles amaze me. NOTHING extra ordinary and both shoot very well. Though no denying the .257 AI DOES have a great barrel.
I have to say that anything assembled recently though....Has shot very well.
Any one else have one that fits in the "This shouldn't shoot as well as it does" category??
FN in MT
But I've always been amazed how well certain hunting or varmint rifles will shoot. NOT talking about that anomalous, occasional good group. I'm talking about a rifle that will CONSISTENTLY shoot a MOA or LESS 3-5 shot group, TO THE SAME POINT OF IMPACT, year after YEAR.
Also referring to HUNTING ammo, not Match grade........... and basic off the shelf rifles or maybe a simple re barrel.
Yesterday my interest in this was again reinforced when I checked zero on an old Win M-70. This is a pre 64 gun, wearing a HART 24" in .257 Roberts AI. The gun was re barreled with an exact clone of the original taper, down to the rear sight hump. It was not pillar bedded, glass bedded , nothing. Simply barreled and stuck back into it's original circa 1958 stock. It has consistently shot 1/2" to 5/8" for 3-5 shots at 100 yds with 115 gr Nosler BT's. I could take several years worth of test targets stacked up..... you would see one ragged hole at 1.5" above point of aim. The zero never seems to waiver.
About 15 years back I took a Weatherby Ultra Light Weight as a trade on an old, beat up Colt SAA I had recently traded into. New in box, in .280 Rem, with a Leupold 2.5-8X, rings/bases and three boxes of Federal Premium, 150 gr Nosler partiton,factory ammo.
I intended to scope it and sell it as a package at the next weeks gun show. UNTIL I shot it. Capable of 1" off the bench at 200 yds and 1/2" or or less at 100 yds. With FACTORY hunting ammo! I was never a Weatherby fan but KEPT that gun and it has accounted for several deer, half a dozen elk and a couple of antelope. ALL one shot kills. Same thing with the ULW. I can take several years worth of targets and the POI seldom varies by more than a fraction of an inch.
Taken with the .280 Rem ULW at 300+ yds.
Over the past 20-30 years I have had built Customs with the best barrels, expensive glass stock, all of it meticulously assembled and finished and a few of them have been very much MEDIOCRE shooters. WHY these two rifles amaze me. NOTHING extra ordinary and both shoot very well. Though no denying the .257 AI DOES have a great barrel.
I have to say that anything assembled recently though....Has shot very well.
Any one else have one that fits in the "This shouldn't shoot as well as it does" category??
FN in MT
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