"I am a 2A supporter....

[OldSalty2]

...and I am voting Biden".

I am curious and sincerely asking how this makes any sense?

On a firearm forum no less. Just doesnt pass reason and logic IMO. However, I consider myself a reasonable man and am willing to listen to the arguements...

Is there another policy stance that you are more passionate about? Free post-birth abortion? Suppressing 1A? Open borders?

 

[HeavyAssault]

Suppression of 1A is already going on. Suppression of 2A is already going on. Do we need more suppression???

 

[XLR308]

What fuck knuckle said that ?

 

[Lunchbox27]

My money is on them just getting their first firearm this year when COVID/BLM riots started, and now supporting 2A to keep it, but still fucking stupid on everything else in their political views.

 

[Srikaleak]

I consider myself a reasonable man and am willing to listen to the arguements...

Is there another policy stance that you are more passionate about? Free post-birth abortion? Suppressing 1A? Open borders?

LOL, I like how you assume innaccurate positions of people who support politicians you don't like. Sounds reasonable...

Why even pretend to care what the other side thinks when you obviously don't?

 

[OldSalty2]

LOL, I like how you assume innaccurate positions of people who support politicians you don't like. Sounds reasonable...

Why even pretend to care what the other side thinks when you obviously don't?

Ok, thats a fair criticism and you are right. So now that I have conceded that point, what can you provide to the actual topic?

 

[jb0311]

LOL, I like how you assume innaccurate positions of people who support politicians you don't like. Sounds reasonable...

Why even pretend to care what the other side thinks when you obviously don't?

I wonder where he would get those assumptions from? Are there not Biden supporters who want open borders? No inclination of suppressing opinions? If you fit the bill (A Biden supporter who claims to be pro 2A) then why not provide some rationale instead of acting bullied? It seems like a legitimate question on a pro gun forum since the candidate in question is running on an extremely anti-gun platform. If you feel that Salty isn't legitimately interested, how about taking a chance that one or two of us actually are?

 

[308pirate]

LOL, I like how you assume innaccurate positions of people who support politicians you don't like. Sounds reasonable...

Why even pretend to care what the other side thinks when you obviously don't?

If one supports Biden, one supports ALL of the democratic party's platform which does include unlimited killing of infants up to the moment they're born, wholesale destruction of the bill of rights, disenfranchisement of smaller states, central planned control of significant segments of the economy, complete dependency on government, and the uncontrolled and unlimited import of poor ass immigrants.

Why do you support all of that?

 

[powdahound76]

@rustyinbend - you wanna weigh in?

@OldSalty2 - I take some stuff that Trump does and it pisses me off.

banning Tik Tok was one of them.
I had to look up what it was when he did.
hard to ban stuff like that and say you support the 1A 100%.
People that download that stuff are idiots.

But, we dont ban buying a Prius in the name of global warming or voting democrat.
hard to outlaw being foolish.

all said, Im conservative and will vote for the more conservative of the two this time.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

...and I am voting Biden".

I am curious and sincerely asking how this makes any sense?

On a firearm forum no less. Just doesnt pass reason and logic IMO. However, I consider myself a reasonable man and am willing to listen to the arguements...

Is there another policy stance that you are more passionate about? Free post-birth abortion? Suppressing 1A? Open borders?

Ask the fuckface how he and his friends plan to use their guns to fight Patriots and usurp the legal government of the United States...

The Tories during the American Revolution "supported" gun ownership too.

At this point I really have no patience anymore in trying to make these people see reason. Just call them out using direct and confrontational questions like the one I listed above.

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

It is just an addition onto the age old adage of "Pro Gun, BUT....".
We see it within the firearms industry itself!!
We see it within the firearms community itself!!
We see it within the Dumbocrats!!
We see it within the Repubs!!

The old "Together we stand, Divided we fall".....
Hunters not being concerned for ARs.
Precision riflemen not being concerned with MGs.
MG enthusiast not being concerned with hunters.
Etc Etc Etc

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[Srikaleak]

Oh I don't care enough to make counter points. Just want you to be honest with yourself.

Just think of the children when you vote.

 

[OldSalty2]

Hi,

It is just an addition onto the age old adage of "Pro Gun, BUT....".
We see it within the firearms industry itself!!
We see it within the firearms community itself!!
We see it within the Dumbocrats!!
We see it within the Repubs!!

The old "Together we stand, Divided we fall".....
Hunters not being concerned for ARs.
Precision riflemen not being concerned with MGs.
MG enthusiast not being concerned with hunters.
Etc Etc Etc

Sincerely,
Theis

I understand that. But then there also must be policies that are more important than 2A to those individuals.

Id like to hear those out.

 

[OldSalty2]

Oh I don't care enough to make counter points. Just want you to be honest with yourself.

Just think of the children when you vote.

You cared enough to post (not on the actual topic) and I have already conceded that your point was valid. So lets discuss the policies that afford the statement "I am a 2A supporter and am voting biden".

Its nothing to be ashamed of. I have owned up...

 

[hlee]

Cognitive dissonance

 

[Lunchbox27]

Just think of the children when you vote.

The ones that Biden sniffed?

 

[Austan]

If the 2A goes there is no way to retain the others so it is the most important issue for me and a hill I'm willing to die on, so to speak.

 

[Mwalex]

The only way I can see a 2A supporter voting for JB is if there are other points more important to them than the 2A. If the 2A is top of the list you would have to be brain damaged to vote for Biden.

 

[Do-nothing]

Hard to understand. Being older and becoming more cynical everyday, I suspect a troll??? Does the idiot even own a gun? In any event, I'm sure there are some gun owners who are going to vote Biden.

 

[Austan]

Hard to understand. Being older and becoming more cynical everyday, I suspect a troll??? Does the idiot even own a gun? In any event, I'm sure there are some gun owners who are going to vote Biden.

He does mention in every other post how he's voting for Biden. I guess that didn't get enough traction so make a dedicated thread?
I've noticed about a dozen different users acting the same over the course of the year. Maybe it's like someone said and the influx of gun purchases by previous non-gun owners has brought them here to learn. Maybe they're shill accounts like the last few election cycles trying to convice the fencesitters not to believe there is value in firearms ownership. Who knows but you can be sure there are those who genuinely belive a vote for Biden will appease the far left and they'll stop destroying cities. Biden as much as said so.

 

[rustyinbend]

@rustyinbend - you wanna weigh in?

It's a trap ... RUN FOR YOUR LIFE !!!
Catch me tomorrow on the Optics forum after I come back from the range ... I'll be reviewing my new Burris Eliminator IV.

 

[MtnCreek]

@rustyinbend - you wanna weigh in?

@OldSalty2 - I take some stuff that Trump does and it pisses me off.

banning Tik Tok was one of them.
I had to look up what it was when he did.
hard to ban stuff like that and say you support the 1A 100%.
People that download that stuff are idiots.

But, we dont ban buying a Prius in the name of global warming or voting democrat.
hard to outlaw being foolish.

all said, Im conservative and will vote for the more conservative of the two this time.

I support banning chicom tech that's being used to collect data on US citizens. Also support banning chicom products for same reason (printers, PC's, cameras, ...). And if a chinese citizen (or whatever they're called) wants to protest/complain/look funny/...., I support putting their ass on a plane back to china by force.

 

[powdahound76]

@MtnCreek - I am 100% with you.

He needs to do more than an LDMF EO.
get some bills moving in the House or Senate.
work the trade deals harder.

But this EO on TikTok was just posturing. Nothing more.
Sometimes allowing freedom makes for less than desirable outcomes.

I despise China the government (not the average citizen) and want them out of our breadbasket.

 

[pmclaine]

Such people...

After proudly stating "I am a 2A supporter...."

Always follow that fragment with the word "but......"

 

[Snuby642]

Do us a favor.

Fuck off.

 

[FishinGuns]

Oh I don't care enough to make counter points. Just want you to be honest with yourself.

Just think of the children when you vote.

I’ll be thinking about my two toddlers’ futures when I’m marking Trump and straight ticket Right.

The thought of mine growing up in a communist world boils my blood.

 

[pmclaine]

Suppression of 1A is already going on. Suppression of 2A is already going on. Do we need more suppression???

Yes!

Animal Mother lays down the suppression we need.

 

[earthquake]

A house I drive by twice a day to and from work for six years has a gun range in the field behind it out to 500-yds. Always admired it. Dude shoots from his back patio.....fucking Biden•Harris sign in his yard! WTF?!

 

[pmclaine]

@rustyinbend - you wanna weigh in?

@OldSalty2 - I take some stuff that Trump does and it pisses me off.

banning Tik Tok was one of them.
I had to look up what it was when he did.
hard to ban stuff like that and say you support the 1A 100%.
People that download that stuff are idiots.

But, we dont ban buying a Prius in the name of global warming or voting democrat.
hard to outlaw being foolish.

all said, Im conservative and will vote for the more conservative of the two this time.

Bannin Tik Tok wasn't about content.....

It was basically a Chinese "worm" that gained them access to all sorts of private citizen data.

My only problem with it I see if he bans Chinese Tik Tok ban the rest of them too.

 

[Baron23]

Oh I don't care enough to make counter points. Just want you to be honest with yourself.

Just think of the children when you vote.

I fucking HATE cowardly assholes who wrap themselves in the flag of “oh, but the children” to justify imposing what THEY want but just need a bit of kiddy top cover.

Contemptible.

 

[E. Bryant]

Suppression of 1A is already going on. Suppression of 2A is already going on. Do we need more suppression???

Of my firearms without a tax stamp, yes.

 

[rtB]

A house I drive by twice a day to and from work for six years has a gun range in the field behind it out to 500-yds. Always admired it. Dude shoots from his back patio.....fucking Biden•Harris sign in his yard! WTF?!

Camouflage

 

[Rthur]

They only think they are a 2nd supporter.
Want to feel like they are a supporter.
Trying to bullshit other supporters.
They are Helen Keller.

R

 

[Bolo]

Such people...

After proudly stating "I am a 2A supporter...."

Always follow that fragment with the word "but......"

Ah, like the ancient greek proverb...
"When someone starts talking stupid, just ignore everything before the 'but'".

Sometimes they spelled it with two t's.

 

[rfcompton]

If you want to read what he is going to do to the 2A, then read it direct from his site. Its a manifesto of democrat wet dreams about guns.

Joe Biden's Plan to End Gun Violence | Joe Biden for President

Joe Biden's plan to end gun violence will tackle America's gun violence head on, and treat it as the public health epidemic it is.

joebiden.com

 

[OldSalty2]

When you cant win on policy, you make up for by pulling heartstrings...and with personal attacks/smears.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Somone is obviously getting 2A and their favorite sex fettish of taking 2 in the A mixed up. Because taking 2 in the A is exatly what you get if you vote Biden.

 

[Lapuapalooza]

Such people...

After proudly stating "I am a 2A supporter...."

Always follow that fragment with the word "but......"

I’m a proud to be a 2A supporter, but I however would like to just say that the National Firearms Act, Gun Control Act of ‘68 and of ‘86 have done nothing to expand my gun rights.
How’s that?

 

[rfcompton]

And Biden wants to add to the NFA for all AR-15, AK47, etc. You will have to sell your gun to the govt for a price they feel it should cost or register it with the ATF. Also pay $200 for the tax stamp per item.......

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

@rustyinbend - you wanna weigh in?

@OldSalty2 - I take some stuff that Trump does and it pisses me off.

banning Tik Tok was one of them.
I had to look up what it was when he did.
hard to ban stuff like that and say you support the 1A 100%.
People that download that stuff are idiots.

But, we dont ban buying a Prius in the name of global warming or voting democrat.
hard to outlaw being foolish.

all said, Im conservative and will vote for the more conservative of the two this time.

What does banning a communist Chinese company that data mines and steals personal information off your phone have anything to do with 1A rights?

Last I checked social media companies themselves are not a free press as that is the viel they hide behind to get away with political censorship and avoid regulations as publishers.

Their mere existence and ability to censor free speach on the behalf DNC is probably the biggest threat to 1A. As they control a vast majority of what we see and hear.

 

[Srgt. Hulka]

"I am a 2A supporter....

...and I am voting Biden".

Anybody who says that is a liar. You cannot support both.
By voting for Biden, you are in fact agreeing with his firearms policy, and you will be allowing him to kick in your door and confiscate your firearms.
I believe the 2nd Amendment protects all other amendments. When it fall, the others, starting with the 1st, will fall like dominoes.

 

[kriller134]

I’m voting for Biden because like him, I don’t know where I’m at or what the fuck is going on.

 

[Forgetful Coyote]

FUCK ANYONE voting for Biden. They want to throw the COTUS in a shredder and put a boot on your neck.

 

[powdahound76]

What does banning a communist Chinese company that data mines and steals personal information off your phone have anything to do with 1A rights?

Last I checked social media companies themselves are not a free press as that is the viel they hide behind to get away with political censorship and avoid regulations as publishers.

Their mere existence and ability to censor free speach on the behalf DNC is probably the biggest threat to 1A. As they control a vast majority of what we see and hear.

i dont advocate for social media.
this, other than reading, is the ONLY place I read or post on the web.

I do think its a slippery slope of the govt telling you what you can and cannot access as long as it does not promote breaking the law.
sounds a bit like China.....
Violence, terrorism, pedo I get going after anything that supports that.


And FYI, the computer or phone you use can have that stuff on it too.
Without you knowing unless you are a computer whiz

 

[OldSalty2]

If the platform and policies could stand on their own merit...

...then votes wouldnt need to be purchased.

But of course eventually, it devolves (or comes full circle) into some kind of morality argument. Blocks and blocks of text playing mental gymnastics, all the while refusing to address the elephant in the room.

 

[QuickNDirty]

Hi,

It is just an addition onto the age old adage of "Pro Gun, BUT....".
We see it within the firearms industry itself!!
We see it within the firearms community itself!!
We see it within the Dumbocrats!!
We see it within the Repubs!!

The old "Together we stand, Divided we fall".....
Hunters not being concerned for ARs.
Precision riflemen not being concerned with MGs.
MG enthusiast not being concerned with hunters.
Etc Etc Etc

Sincerely,
Theis

If there's a way in hell I can shake it, as Mayor, I will actually try to arm everyone in my city. Got some trainings going down next week, as a matter of fact. Poor young lady was groped by a grifter who approached her car. Police have not found the guy, yet.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

Hi,
Precision riflemen not being concerned with MGs.
MG enthusiast not being concerned with hunters.
Etc Etc Etc

Sincerely,
Theis

WHAT!!! people are against machine guns??? Blasphemy

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

i dont advocate for social media.
this, other than reading, is the ONLY place I read or post on the web.

I do think its a slippery slope of the govt telling you what you can and cannot access as long as it does not promote breaking the law.
sounds a bit like China.....
Violence, terrorism, pedo I get going after anything that supports that.


And FYI, the computer or phone you use can have that stuff on it too.
Without you knowing unless you are a computer whiz

I get that, but its sorta different when you know its the communist Chinese government using it as a back door for spying and nefarious purposes.

 

[powdahound76]

Yep.

I rather we do like I said earlier.
grow some nuts and push to End dealings with China.
We can make our own junk.
maybe we could make a phone that lasts more than 2 yrs (almost to year 4 on this one though)

We let plenty of American companies steal And screw over John Q Public a plenty too!

 

[AngryKoala]

...and I am voting Biden".

I am curious and sincerely asking how this makes any sense?

On a firearm forum no less. Just doesnt pass reason and logic IMO. However, I consider myself a reasonable man and am willing to listen to the arguements...

Is there another policy stance that you are more passionate about? Free post-birth abortion? Suppressing 1A? Open borders?

I love guns and the 2A but I believe background checks need to be extended to private sales and gun shows (some do it anyway). A loophole should not exist. I also believe suppressors and SBRs should be taken off the NFA Act.