i dont know pressure signs, but...

AXEMAN

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i know when to ask about them. i just got some 1x brass and i was going to reload but the necks were too loose. so i got a Lee collet die (thanks sawgunner2001) and was running it thru and i noticed this on a few cases. is this unsafe to use? i have not sized it yet.

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Re: i dont know pressure signs, but...

I've got a few Remington .223 brass that has a notch around it like that but mine is at the top of the case...haven't tried to shoot them yet tho. My Lake City brass has never done it and it's been shot like 4-5 times.
 
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It shouldn't cause any problems. That's what you get with factory chambers. Factory chambers are usually on the big size to ensure that all ammo will chamber. Combine that with some ammo makers that keep specs to a minimum to ensure that their ammo will feed in any chamber and that's why you get the bulge.
 
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cool, i knew that area was one of the signs to look for. anyone have a link to some pics of excessive pressure signs? i got one a while back but lost it when i had to shut down my PC the hard way.
 
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Make up a feeler tool by straightening out a paper clip and putting a 1/8" right angle bend on its end. Use the tip of the bend to slide in and out along the inside of the sidewall, to see if there are any interior ringlike grooves along the sidewall's interior. If there are, there's a problem, and continued reloading of cases with such a groove can result in case head separation.

Generally, this is an indication that the case is being excessively stretched and re-shortened by resizing, and that the resizing die may be set to resize the case too short, or the load is stretching the case excessively, or maybe both. The die should be set so that the resized case causes a slight bolt drag when closing.

Possibly, the external shiny ring/ridge could be indicating something else/additional. Rebarreling involves a specification called protrusion. The chamber is configured so the case base protrudes a specific amount that corresponds to the bolt face recess. The barrel needs to be seated into the receiver at a specific depth, so the case is supported with minimal interruption.

If a gap exists, the result could look like what you're seeing. If this is the situation, all the cases should exhibit this condition, and an internal groove is likely in all the cases as well, probably even after the first firing. This should be a very rare condition and is almost certainly only going to be an issue with a replaced removed/barrel. This condition should also be detectable using a headspace gauge set.

Greg
 
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thanks greg, just to be clear, its 1x brass but not from my rifle. but i am going to be rebarreing soon so ill keep an eye out after thats done. i just kinda got nervous when i saw this on a few of my cases. i have some lake city stuff loaded up but i also have 300 or so of black hills and hornady match that i have accumulated. i saw an animation of what you are talking about greg with the excessive headspace. that really cleared stuff up and explained things about how this bulge happens, just not whats excessive or if i should toss it with that little bulge in there. im just starting to resize them so i will see if i can size the bulge out.