I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

[ReaperDriver]

For all you guys that have Quickload - is it worth the $$?

I just went through an uber laborious load development process to find three load combos (3 bullets, 1 powder) that my rifle likes. 600+ bullets/primers and several pounds of powder later, I'm thinking there's got to be a quicker way to get there. Is the QL the answer?

I realize that QL will not tell me the perfect load, I'm just trying to narrow down the range of components and charge weights I want to test and find a starting point CLOSE to what will end up working and then test around that narrower window. I find the reloading manuals to be completely useless for a goos starting point, as they are ultra conservative. I started with the new 6th ed Sierra manual and their listed MAX load was nowhere near where I ended up. So I wasted a crap load of components trying to find that perfect load. I have a couple of other powders and bullet combos that I want to try out, but I dread the process again if I don't have agood starting point.

Is QL accurate enough to predict results with my chamber and barrel with all the various permutations of powder/bullets/etc? Just looking to see if the $150 is worth it. Thanks...

 

[918v]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

It is.

 

[Mag 300]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

I also just bought it
Bill

 

[former naval person]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

What did that experimenting cost...not only in bullets, primers, and powder, but in range time and barrel life? 600 bullets...$180 bucks. 600 primers...$25? 4 pounds of powder...$80?....25% of barrel life...$150 ? So...QL to get you to a OBT load...for this barrel and cartridge and many more for years...$165 for the program, and $50 (maybe) worth of components...looks like a win/win to me. JMHO

 

[HotIce]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

QL is worth the money IMO. Especially when you start experimenting with non standard COALs.
Plus, QT is pretty helpful too.

 

[jetlyting]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

well worth it....let's you know where to start with a load......very good investment and simple to use

 

[ptd]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

+1

-pd

 

[Jrb572]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

I like it a lot. Only thing there is a lot of it I have not yet learned to use.

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

It's worthwhile. I spent some time tonight modeling some different loads. It's awesome to be able to run through it all and narrow down a load to test.

 

[ReaperDriver]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

Ok, fair enough. How do you tell it to model your chamber though... since chamber dimension seems to have a big role in interior ballisitics and eventual muzzle velocity?

 

[desertfox01]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

I have had it for a bit. have not had a chance to really put it to use though.......gotta spend more time with it.

 

[ReaperDriver]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ReaperDriver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, fair enough. <span style="font-weight: bold">How do you tell it to model your chamber though... </span>since chamber dimension seems to have a big role in interior ballisitics and eventual muzzle velocity? </div></div>

Anyone? Bueller? For those of you who are QL guru's - will QL allow you to specify chamber dimensions or is it a generic chamber?

 

[BLAWTON]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

Reaper if you call ed at neconos.com he should still give you a deal carried over from the group buy. Just let him know you member of SH.

 

[BLAWTON]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ReaperDriver</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ReaperDriver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, fair enough. <span style="font-weight: bold">How do you tell it to model your chamber though... </span>since chamber dimension seems to have a big role in interior ballisitics and eventual muzzle velocity? </div></div>

Anyone? Bueller? For those of you who are QL guru's - will QL allow you to specify chamber dimensions or is it a generic chamber? </div></div>


Its more powerful then you think. Yes you can do all that and more.

 

[former naval person]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

Chamber dimensions, per se, don't matter as much as the inside capacity of the case. You'll find a spot on the left side of the screen that specifies water capacity of the case. Measure your fired case capacity in grains of water and fill in that spot with a custom capacity. JMHO

 

[ReaperDriver]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

Cool, thanks guys!

 

[lovetsx]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

So you fill the case with water then measure on a scale?

 

[BLAWTON]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lovetsx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So you fill the case with water then measure on a scale? </div></div>

I always use water that has sat out for about a day.

 

[lovetsx]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

What does that do allow O2 to leave? Should you add some soap to break surface tension.

 

[Mag 300]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

is this the way to tell the chamber size ?
I have not gotten the chrono or the quickload yet should be here today
would this be from fired brass add day old water then input the differance or the complete weight?
Bill

 

[Mag 300]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

Did not know this
Thank You Former Naval Person

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: former naval person</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Chamber dimensions, per se, don't matter as much as the inside capacity of the case. You'll find a spot on the left side of the screen that specifies water capacity of the case. Measure your fired case capacity in grains of water and fill in that spot with a custom capacity. JMHO </div></div>

 

[hexades1]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

You can do a LOT of what if´s with QL.

The secret reason why you should get Quikc Load is that it contains also Quick Target Unlimited.

I dare to say that QL is worth´s it´s price solely because of QTU which is the best ballistics program available. Bar none.

You get some radar data on popular military bullets with QTU plus you can use Lapua Radar data plus you can use Litz´s G7 values for about 150 different long range bullets.

If you want to get serious about long range shooting you can save a lot of nerves and money with QL and QTU.

To get the most out of it you need to be interested in playing with computers so do not buy it unless you plan on using it.

The only thing it does not do is to take into consideration different primers. So a max load might be safe with a regular primer but not with a magnum primer.

Use it as a guide but use your head too.

 

[The Mechanic]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

Like mine also +1 to what everyone has said it is uberpowerful. Like how I found a German prefix.

 

[Jedi]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just went through an uber laborious load development process to find three load combos (3 bullets, 1 powder) that my rifle likes. 600+ bullets/primers and several pounds of powder later, I'm thinking there's got to be a quicker way to get there. Is the QL the answer?
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IN one word YES
Bro you could of paid for QL several times over and maybe found better load
DO IT, DO it now

 

[ReaperDriver]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

OK last question about QL, I promise. I was reading on another thread (lapua case capacity thread) that QL doesn't distinguish between different brass case capacities. Does it allow a manual entry for that if you do the H2O measurement? I ask because I've found case capacity to be a huge factor in measured velocities with the same charge weight.

 

[Bacarrat]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

Yes

 

[ReaperDriver]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes </div></div>
cool, I guess Im going to have to order it this week.

 

[Bluejazz]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

Well worth the price!

 

[918v]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ReaperDriver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK last question about QL, I promise. I was reading on another thread (lapua case capacity thread) that QL doesn't distinguish between different brass case capacities. Does it allow a manual entry for that if you do the H2O measurement? I ask because I've found case capacity to be a huge factor in measured velocities with the same charge weight. </div></div>

Yes

 

[918v]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

Not only dat, you can manually change and save any parameter.

 

[Mag 300]

Re: I'm trying to justify the $$ for Quickload

Agreed saves a lot of range time
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: former naval person</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What did that experimenting cost...not only in bullets, primers, and powder, but in range time and barrel life? 600 bullets...$180 bucks. 600 primers...$25? 4 pounds of powder...$80?....25% of barrel life...$150 ? So...QL to get you to a OBT load...for this barrel and cartridge and many more for years...$165 for the program, and $50 (maybe) worth of components...looks like a win/win to me. JMHO </div></div>