Impact 707R

[Estes640]

Not sure where this fits in the market but I like that there is another option.

Impact Precision 707R Short Action (Right Hand)

Impact Precision 707R short action

www.altusshooting.com

 

[oldrifleman]

Not an integral lug, no pic rail, but light weight and cheaper. Be a great hunting action.

 

[Estes640]

Not an integral lug, no pic rail, but light weight and cheaper. Be a great hunting action.

It is an integral lug, just no integral pic rail. At that price comes with hawkins hybrid rings and the new 75 degree impact bolt. Can take any bolt from a 737r per altus. I think it’s actually a decent deal. I ordered one

 

[oldrifleman]

Ahh, looking at it there was a line all round the receiver at the lug so I assumed it was not integral. I do trust Tate to put out a spectacular product.

 

[TheBigCountry]

Tagged in. I talked to Tate they are making rails for them too

 

[Estes640]

Awesome. I’ll likely be in for one of those. Gonna start with the Hawkins on it but, want to try the area 419 rings as well.

Pretty excited to get one in my hands. I should have it before the weekend

 

[kthomas]

Nice looking action for the hunting crowd.

 

[TheBigCountry]

Awesome. I’ll likely be in for one of those. Gonna start with the Hawkins on it but, want to try the area 419 rings as well.

Pretty excited to get one in my hands. I should have it before the weekend

Let me know how you like it, please.

 

[nickw]

They are already sold out. Not seeing them anywhere else. Was this an Altus exclusive?

 

[srt-4_uk]

34oz for a "lightweight" action and rings?

That a misprint?

 

[Estes640]

They are already sold out. Not seeing them anywhere else. Was this an Altus exclusive?

When I talked to the guys at Altus and ordered mine it sounded like they only had a few. I don’t believe it to be an altus exclusive.

34oz for a "lightweight" action and rings?

That a misprint?

Don’t think so. I didn’t buy it for the weight alone. It’s (707r with rings) lighter than a 737 action alone (3oz)

 

[bbyars]

Just saw these by chance on the website, did you ever receive yours?

 

[Estes640]

Just saw these by chance on the website, did you ever receive yours?

It’s sitting at my FFLs place. Unfortunately he had to rush out of town for an emergency but first impressions were good. I expect nothing less

 

[bbyars]

Hmmm....interesting.

 

[TheBigCountry]

It’s sitting at my FFLs place. Unfortunately he had to rush out of town for an emergency but first impressions were good. I expect nothing less

Go break in and get the dang thing and post up pictures

 

[Estes640]

Go break in and get the dang thing and post up pictures

Lol, my FFL is the guy who would Re-purpose an old claymore as a doorstop. Ain’t no chances being taken here.

 

[TheBigCountry]

Lol, my FFL is the guy who would Re-purpose an old claymore as a doorstop. Ain’t no chances being taken here.

 

[Whytry85]

Lol, my FFL is the guy who would Re-purpose an old claymore as a doorstop. Ain’t no chances being taken here.

We must have the same FFL.. reminds me of Sheev from the dukes of hazard with his armadillo helmet.

 

[Estes640]

Schedules finally aligned and I was able to pick up my 707r. Same great feel, fit, and finish of a 737 but on a diet. Really awesome package and I will be getting more. My 22 creed 20” bartlein carbon barrel arrives on Monday so I will update with more pics then.

I’ve always been a zermatt/origin fanboy because of the pricing and bang for the buck. I think this may be my new number one. Once I get some rounds through it that will confirm. Action runs as smooth as my 737s, and maintains almost all the great features. I did throw one of my other barrels on and it headspace’s and timed near perfectly. Not saying they always will, but in my one of one it looked like it was cut for the action

 

[krumfola]

Do the 707s come with the 75 degree bolt?

 

[Estes640]

Do the 707s come with the 75 degree bolt?

They do. Atleast I had the option to specify 75 or 90 and whatever bolt face from the great guys/gals over at Altus!

 

[bbyars]

Awesome! Nice gun!

 

[TheBigCountry]

Anyone else gotten to see/handle this action? Looks like they are coming standard with a 20moa rail now

 

[K80/6.5]

Schedules finally aligned and I was able to pick up my 707r. Same great feel, fit, and finish of a 737 but on a diet. Really awesome package and I will be getting more. My 22 creed 20” bartlein carbon barrel arrives on Monday so I will update with more pics then.

I’ve always been a zermatt/origin fanboy because of the pricing and bang for the buck. I think this may be my new number one. Once I get some rounds through it that will confirm. Action runs as smooth as my 737s, and maintains almost all the great features. I did throw one of my other barrels on and it headspace’s and timed near perfectly. Not saying they always will, but in my one of one it looked like it was cut for the action

Did you get the barrel interested to see how you like it so far.

 

[BradleyH]

I recently picked mine up from Altus and really like it thus far.

shorter bolt throw is great, and it’s smooth.

It’s not quite like comparing an origin to a TL3 yet but it is getting closer, price wise. Not to mention your only lacking an integral rail at this point, the707 does have pins for the rail too

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

Huge impact fan but these make zero fucking sense to me. Take all the benefits of a impact and then start whittling away. If you want weight savings use titanium. Or scallop around the features. Waste of money IMO.

 

[Cynical]

Huge impact fan but these make zero fucking sense to me. Take all the benefits of a impact and then start whittling away. If you want weight savings use titanium. Or scallop around the features. Waste of money IMO.

It’s a production and price point balance would be my guess. Titanium has its own problems, other than cost there are known issues with bolt lug setback on larger calibers. I don’t think we will see any more titanium actions from impact until there are design changes.

 

[TheBigCountry]

It’s a production and price point balance would be my guess. Titanium has its own problems, other than cost there are known issues with bolt lug setback on larger calibers. I don’t think we will see any more titanium actions from impact until there are design changes.

Talking to the guys at impact about this action, it checks a lot of boxes. In my mind, it’s like the bighorn origin vs TL3. It’s a win in my book.

 

[Estes640]

Huge impact fan but these make zero fucking sense to me. Take all the benefits of an impact and then start whittling away. If you want weight savings use titanium. Or scallop around the features. Waste of money IMO.

They may not make sense for you. Sure thing.

Like a Big Country said below - think of it like an origin. Except in this case it has almost all the same features. All except the integral rail. It’s a cheaper and slightly lighter option than a 737 that takes the same prefits, has more optic mounting options, and maintains the same characteristics as a 737. Don’t see how that’s not a win.

I really liked mine. I ended up getting a steal on an NBK so I moved mine along, but I will likely be getting another when the time comes

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

They may not make sense for you. Sure thing.

Like a Big Country said below - think of it like an origin. Except in this case it has almost all the same features. All except the integral rail. It’s a cheaper and slightly lighter option than a 737 that takes the same prefits, has more optic mounting options, and maintains the same characteristics as a 737. Don’t see how that’s not a win.

I really liked mine. I ended up getting a steal on an NBK so I moved mine along, but I will likely be getting another when the time comes

He is ignored so I could give two shits what that retard has to say.

It's not much cheaper. Actions are the cheapest part of any rifle you will ever buy. You can shoot one for years and sell it for almost as much as you paid. They last practically forever and are the heart of the rifle. Savings $2-300 and removing one of the best features of the action is retarded. An integral rail will NEVER come loose. Weight savings is negligible. A few oz can be saved elsewhere in much less critical areas.

There are better ways to save weight without removing the strengths of the platform.

They should have did something like the anti x if weight savings was the goal. Or use more titanium.

No one ever who built a full custom rifle is like damn I could afford 4500 but not 4800 so thank God I got the cheaper action. It's like 5% cost difference before optics and everything else.

All this shit is going to do is make people look at lone peak harder as an option for a lighter non cucked full featured action.

I'm glad Tate is able to sell more shit but I also think people buying this are pretty dumb.

 

[TheBigCountry]

He is ignored so I could give two shits what that retard has to say.

It's not much cheaper. Actions are the cheapest part of any rifle you will ever buy. You can shoot one for years and sell it for almost as much as you paid. They last practically forever and are the heart of the rifle. Savings $2-300 and removing one of the best features of the action is retarded. An integral rail will NEVER come loose. Weight savings is negligible. A few oz can be saved elsewhere in much less critical areas.

There are better ways to save weight without removing the strengths of the platform.

They should have did something like the anti x if weight savings was the goal. Or use more titanium.

No one ever who built a full custom rifle is like damn I could afford 4500 but not 4800 so thank God I got the cheaper action. It's like 5% cost difference before optics and everything else.

All this shit is going to do is make people look at lone peak harder as an option for a lighter non fucked full featured action.

I'm glad Tate is able to sell more shit but I also think people buying this are pretty dumb.

I see I live rent free in your head still Nicholas. You are worth less than the dog shit I step over on the sidewalk.

 

[diggler1833]

I see I live rent free in your head still Nicholas. You are worth less than the dog shit I step over on the sidewalk.

Replied to so he can see...

 

[srt-4_uk]

An integral rail will NEVER come loose.

Bolt rings on an integral rail. 2 points can loosen. Scope cap screws and ring clamp screws

Screw rings directly on a receiver. 2 points can loosen. Scope cap screws and ring screws.

 

[Terry Cross]

Savings $2-300 and removing one of the best features of the action is retarded. An integral rail will NEVER come loose.

Indeed, an integral rail will never come loose.
Likewise, a properly pinned and screwed base will never come loose.

Defiance Rebels and Surgeon RSRs set the pace with solid scope base mounts secured with 4x 8-40 screws and two 1/8" steel locator pins to isolate the shear load away from the screws. Those setups are bomb proof. Seekins Precision and a few others accomplished the same feat with screws and a recoil lug. Those setups are bomb proof.

When you choose an integral rail you are settling for a shorter rail length. This offers fewer options to properly place the scope rings which can be a big deal with short action receivers and larger size scopes.

Weight savings is negligible. A few oz can be saved elsewhere in much less critical areas.

You are making a lot of assumptions, primarily that they omitted the integral Pic rail to save weight.
Nope.

There are better ways to save weight without removing the strengths of the platform.

See above. ^^ It's not about the weight.

No one ever who built a full custom rifle is like damn I could afford 4500 but not 4800 so thank God I got the cheaper action. It's like 5% cost difference before optics and everything else.

While mathematically you can make an argument, the user market shows a different result. If $300 difference in price was not a factor for many, ARC's CDG, Zermat's Origin and MacBros EVO would not be marketable. The opposite seems to be true since all 3 have enjoyed crazy big success.

All this shit is going to do is make people look at lone peak harder as an option for a lighter non cucked full featured action.

It's only cucked within the confines of your own argument against it.

I'm glad Tate is able to sell more shit

Tate is smarter than the average bear. He and Wade make decisions based on reality.

but I also think people buying this are pretty dumb.

See above comment about CDG, Origin and EVO users. Must be a ton of dumb motherfuckers out there for sure.

*edited for spelling.

 

[diggler1833]

See above comment about CDG, Origin and EVO users. Must be a ton of dumb motherfuckers out there for sure.

*edited for spelling.

Oooh, ooooh, is someone looking for 'dumb motherfuckers' who run Origins?

 

[Terry Cross]

Oooh, ooooh, is someone looking for 'dumb motherfuckers' who run Origins?

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I think I peed myself laughing.

Well played...

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

Thanks for the Response Terry. I have a ton of respect for you, your opinion and your contributions to the community.

I look at the CDG, Origin, Tenacity (classic) as a $900 action not a $1500 one. The difference there, and they are all great actions for the money is more like $5-600. That's more substantial. As the prices have creeped up, they are no longer the value they once were and it makes it harder to recommend them when for a little more you can get a full featured flagship.

I would still always recommend someone to buy the best action they can and make a sacrifice elsewhere, as they upgrade they will always have that action as the base of their build. We all change stocks, chassis, barrels, scopes, brakes, ect..... A good action will last forever. Surgeon is a great example. It gives up almost nothing to a modern action.

Even a pinned and torqued rail is a failure point. People dick around and user error is the most likely cause of issues. An integral rail removes that possibility. Its one less thing to check on my checklist in diagnosing a rifle issue.

I shoot almost exclusively shoot Tates actions and Wades barrels. Ton of respect to those guys. Doesn't mean I see the allure of this action or agree with others rationale on why they should buy it.

And yes, there are a ton of dumb mother fuckers out there.

The one thing I don't understand is the Lug area. It looks like a pinned/2 piece Lug action but its supposed to be integral. Why the machine cuts and the appearance of staking when its integral?

 

[Entropicitis]

Huge impact fan but these make zero fucking sense to me. Take all the benefits of a impact and then start whittling away. If you want weight savings use titanium. Or scallop around the features. Waste of money IMO.

They are going to be used on GAPs PPR going forward. Makes perfect sense.

 

[oldrifleman]

The one thing I don't understand is the Lug area. It looks like a pinned/2 piece Lug action but its supposed to be integral. Why the machine cuts and the appearance of staking when its integral?

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That was the thing that me as well, still confused (easily done). The only thing I can think of is they actually increased the diameter of the action at the lug by a bit. The line appears to be a the edge of the re-inforcement. My "evidence " is the shallow scallop at 7 o'clock and the line disappears.

 

[Terry Cross]

That was the thing that me as well, still confused (easily done). The only thing I can think of is they actually increased the diameter of the action at the lug by a bit. The line appears to be a the edge of the re-inforcement. My "evidence " is the shallow scallop at 7 o'clock and the line disappears.

I'm have no inside information as to their machining sequences, but I can guess.

Since the 707 receivers do not have an integrated Pic rail, it is a "round" action.
This allows 95% of the receiver to be shaped in a turning operation. Turning a round part is much faster and more efficient than a ton of milling tool paths.

They can quickly turn the OD right up to the recoil lug datum then move to a milling op that shapes the extra front material down to match the receiver body around most of the circumference while finishing out the 6 o'clock lug.

They likely place a surface line cut coincident to the recoil lug's rear face to allow better blending between the turned surface and the milled surfaces. Such things are commonly done in the injection mold business for better cosmetics, etc.

There are likely several reasons that make better sense than what I have laid out above but this would be my bet.

 

[oldrifleman]

I'm have no inside information as to their machining sequences, but I can guess.

Since the 707 receivers do not have an integrated Pic rail, it is a "round" action.
This allows 95% of the receiver to be shaped in a turning operation. Turning a round part is much faster and more efficient than a ton of milling tool paths.

They can quickly turn the OD right up to the recoil lug datum then move to a milling op that shapes the extra front material down to match the receiver body around most of the circumference while finishing out the 6 o'clock lug.

They likely place a surface line cut coincident to the recoil lug's rear face to allow better blending between the turned surface and the milled surfaces. Such things are commonly done in the injection mold business for better cosmetics, etc.

There are likely several reasons that make better sense than what I have laid out above but this would be my bet.

Yours makes much more sense to me, Thank You!

 

[DairyDictator]

I'm have no inside information as to their machining sequences, but I can guess.

Since the 707 receivers do not have an integrated Pic rail, it is a "round" action.
This allows 95% of the receiver to be shaped in a turning operation. Turning a round part is much faster and more efficient than a ton of milling tool paths.

They can quickly turn the OD right up to the recoil lug datum then move to a milling op that shapes the extra front material down to match the receiver body around most of the circumference while finishing out the 6 o'clock lug.

They likely place a surface line cut coincident to the recoil lug's rear face to allow better blending between the turned surface and the milled surfaces. Such things are commonly done in the injection mold business for better cosmetics, etc.

There are likely several reasons that make better sense than what I have laid out above but this would be my bet.

^^^This.
My other guess is that they relieve the front a tad because blending toolpaths like that is a royal bitch and isn't necessary. Could also be to ensure that it doesn't ever interfere with any rails even if they're long. The side swipes are probably there to remove the radius left from the endmill.

 

[TheBigCountry]

Indeed, an integral rail will never come loose.
Likewise, a properly pinned and screwed base will never come loose.

Defiance Rebels and Surgeon RSRs set the pace with solid scope base mounts secured with 4x 8-40 screws and two 1/8" steel locator pins to isolate the shear load away from the screws. Those setups are bomb proof. Seekins Precision and a few others accomplished the same feat with screws and a recoil lug. Those setups are bomb proof.

When you choose an integral rail you are settling for a shorter rail length. This offers fewer options to properly place the scope rings which can be a big deal with short action receivers and larger size scopes.


You are making a lot of assumptions, primarily that they omitted the integral Pic rail to save weight.
Nope.


See above. ^^ It's not about the weight.


While mathematically you can make an argument, the user market shows a different result. If $300 difference in price was not a factor for many, ARC's CDG, Zermat's Origin and MacBros EVO would not be marketable. The opposite seems to be true since all 3 have enjoyed crazy big success.


It's only cucked within the confines of your own argument against it.


Tate is smarter than the average bear. He and Wade make decisions based on reality.


See above comment about CDG, Origin and EVO users. Must be a ton of dumb motherfuckers out there for sure.

*edited for spelling.

 

[4O6shootist]

This action ticks no boxes for me. It's heavy-ish, no frills, or unique features other than 75°, priced at the lower side of mid tiered action, or top of bottom tiered actions, however you Wana view it.

This action is targeted at guys who are building a bdl or aics mag only setup. That's where it fits into the impact lineup, only functional dissimilarities VS the 737/nbk, load port and detach Pic rail.

They designed an action with minimal cycle times in the machine, priced it kinda competitively, using their popular name to move an action that now fits sportsman's needs, maximizing their possible revenue to machine time.

It'll sell cuz it's an Impact, the official action of the prs