InkedIan

[RTH1800]

After years of uniformly excellent dealings on this and other sites I have ran into a crooked deal on SH.

I recently purchased "2250-2350" 77 Grain TMK bullets from the same lot from InkedIan.

Deal went ok until package arrived. When I picked it up it was clearly too light. I looked it over and finally ended up counting the bullets. 1707 total. No way this was a "mistake".

I messaged him and he said he could only refund the difference as he had spent the money. He calculated the difference from 2200 and deleted the actual ad text that stated the higher numbers.

He wanted me to accept the lower figure and "call it good". I called it bullshit.

Beware InkedIan

RTH

 

[InkedIan]

This is bullshit and no way a scam! How could you call it a scam when I realized that based on the shipping weight that I had estimated it wrong and was willing to pay you more per bullet for what was missing. The ad said I estimated the count based off what I used in a 2500 CT box that apparently wasn't 2500 rds. It was a legitimate mistake in which I apologised for and again tried to over compensation for what was missing based off the estimate. I like many others delete ads after they sell to not clog up the FS section. It wasn't the wrong bullet, damaged, or fake! It was a simply underestimated count in which I was more than willing to pay him back for what was underestimated. I screenshoted the whole conversation and I'm more than willing to post it. Since you decided to take this route I paid you back based on the difference between 1707 and the 2200 ESTIMATE. If you want the extra I expect an apology and this post deleted.

 

[RTH1800]

Let's see, I need to apologize for your trying to screw me out of 500-650 bullets?? Not happening. NO refund received and none requested other than a full refund including return shipping.

 

[InkedIan]

Easily proven.... I refunded based of the 23 cents per bullet charged for the estimated 2200 bullets.

 

[RTH1800]

You agreed to send me 2250-2350 bullets for a fixed price. You sent 1707. You refused to take the bullets back and instead provided a partial refund that was not requested or agreed on for a lesser number of bullets.
End of story.

BTW, payment does now show up. Not that I ask for are agreed to it.
So the bottom line is you send InkedIan some money for something, he sends you what he wants to and refunds as he thinks is fair when he gets caught. Hope your other buyers like that business model. I don't.

 

[InkedIan]

The post was for 2200 bullets possibly more that I clearly said I didn't not count and was an estimate. I based that estimate on the fact that I had only used 150-200 bullets from what was supposed to be a 2500 CT box which apparently it wasn't. After I said I would refund you the difference you said you wanted a full refund plus shipped cost and PayPal fee. I would understand if I said it was an exact amount and I had counted it but that's clearly not the case. I asked you verify the email which you refused so I sent the money back to the email you used for PayPal. Which it says someone with the exact same name received. The fact you are saying you didn't receive the payment and there is clearly proof you did tells everyone there's only one liar here.

 

[RTH1800]

I did receive payment and stated so. Please re read.

See below.


BTW, payment does now show up. Not that I ask for are agreed to it.

 

[RTH1800]

You do not read any better than you estimate.

There is a reason you deleted the text of your sales ad.

Just keep posting about this, it will help with your sales no doubt.

 

[InkedIan]

I did misread and deleted the ad for the reason stated. I've done it to other sales post with no issues and so do many others.

 

[InkedIan]

Yes, I do believe refunding you the difference based on the amount you paid per bullet is reasonable. Even offered to give you a little more for an honest mistake but you're additude toward me, calling me a scammer and a liar made me rethink that. You paid 23 cents per bullet and you got it.

 

[RTH1800]

The amount I paid per bullet is inflated due to your lying about the actual number. Life is simple, do what you say. Don't lie, get caught and then make up the rules about how you are going to correct it.

 

[InkedIan]

 

[RTH1800]

It is all quite simple despite your efforts to complicate it.

Did you ship the item you listed in the quanity you listed?

If the answer to the above questions is no, did you assist the buyer in returning the item for a refund due to your failing to deliver the listed item as you stated you would in the ad?

If the answer to the above is no, you are not trustworthy to deal with on a site like this. You as the offending party do not have the option to simply delete the ad text, change your claim and refund a small portion that you calculate "makes it right".

As you have shown, I have little recourse and you can get away with it. I am trying to duly warn others. Beyond that, I have no interest.

 

[InkedIan]

As said before it was listed an estimate and said I had not counted them. Obviously the estimate was wrong and you were refunded the difference which is the most reasonable action because neither of us lose money with this way. I even offered you more money and would have tried to do more to make up for the mistake but you immediately started calling me a liar and scammer. I make no more money selling 1707 bullets at $395 than I do selling 2200 bullets at $510 so that would be the worst scam ever. Like I said if the bullets had been the wrong ones, damaged, or in a condition other than advertised I would have no problem giving a full refund but the post clearly said estimated & uncounted. I underestimated and paid you back the difference.

So it's clear, I'm never selling anything again that is uncounted so any future buyers need not worry as this my first issue selling anything on here since 2007.

 

[RTH1800]

If you get any future buyers, the concern is not that you will miscount. The concern is that you lie and cannot be trusted. What you will lie about next time I cannot say.

 

[InkedIan]

Didn't miscount anything.... Advertised as uncounted/estimated and being a mistake and a lie are not the same thing and I DID NOT lie there will be no reason for concern in the future.

 

[RTH1800]

I really don't give a fuck if you are stupid or criminal, makes no difference to me. Actually, you might be both.
I did not get what you listed and I paid for.
You removed the ad and claim otherwise.

 

[InkedIan]

What does it matter it if I removed it anyway? No one replied on the actual post and you never disagreed with what I said was advertised.... I said there was around 2200 possibly more based off what I used from a 2500 CT box that I didn't count. It was stated I didn't count them and that it was an estimate. The estimate was unintentionally low and you were paid the difference. You are clearly a man child throwing a fit.

 

[RTH1800]

You actually stated 2250-2350 as I recall. I don’t like being lied to.
You only refunded due to being caught.
If your word does not matter to you it reflects on your character, not mine.
If you stole from a store and were caught in parking lot and offered to pay, you still get prosecuted.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

This should be moved to the Bear Pit!