Insane auction or truly rare Remington 700 police?

[fnbrowning]

A seller on Gun Broker has "Rare Remington 700 Police" listed for $3500. [Item 1025228856]

He points to a 2016 article in Sniper Country PX Blog by Scott Powers regarding a limited run of 700 Police with a 20" stainless 5R barrel. 700 Police 5R Stainless “Exclusive” (SKU: 86594)

It appears to me that the seller wants full new cost for his 8-32x 56mm Nightforce scope, and a pretty penny for the rile also. Or, maybe as a neo there's something about a mid-teens 700 Police with a 20" barrel in stainless that I'm not aware of?

 

[Lwood]

Rem 700 SPS? $7-800 new in box, nothing special.

NXS scope $2,000 new, technically used at best.

Cheap bipod

Sloppy cutouts in carry case, still has sloppy looking crayon marks.

Looks like an amature job but somebody will buy it

 

[FuhQ]

Rem 700 SPS? $7-800 new in box, nothing special.

NXS scope $2,000 new, technically used at best.

Cheap bipod

Sloppy cutouts in carry case, still has sloppy looking crayon marks.

Looks like an amature job but somebody will buy it

It's not an SPS... That's a 700P. The SPS was a CMV barrel and action, standard 6-groove rifling, and came in a shitty cheap Hogue overmold rubber stock. This is a 700P, which is a 416r stainless steel action and 5R barrel, and comes in an HS Precision fiberglass stock, like all the other Senderos and 5R Milspec models, 700P, 700 LTR, and 700 PSS rifles back in the day. New the 5R rifles were about $1,200 going rate around 2015. Huge difference between a 700 SPS and a 700P/Milspec. Just the price difference between the 2 stock is about $350-400, not to mention the stainless barrel and action, and the 5R rifled barrel, which came out of the M24 stockpile (all of Remingtons 5R barrels used to). Now all Rem Arms rifles come standard with 5R rifling and modern twist rates for modern heavy bullets...Which is a damn nice upgrade for them. Long overdue.

As for the rest, I agree.

 

[Charger442]

A seller on Gun Broker has "Rare Remington 700 Police" listed for $3500. [Item 1025228856]

He points to a 2016 article in Sniper Country PX Blog by Scott Powers regarding a limited run of 700 Police with a 20" stainless 5R barrel. 700 Police 5R Stainless “Exclusive” (SKU: 86594)

It appears to me that the seller wants full new cost for his 8-32x 56mm Nightforce scope, and a pretty penny for the rile also. Or, maybe as a neo there's something about a mid-teens 700 Police with a 20" barrel in stainless that I'm not aware of?

Thanks for the heads up. Will keep an eye on it

 

[Maxduty]

How many of them are they building today? I wont pay over 5-600 for any Remington rifle built before the fire sale. And even less for ones in the 90s. Just my opinion, but I did pick up a 70s model 300 win mag for 500 bucks , so theres that.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Dude must be high on more than his price. IMO that rifles “rarity” doesn’t increase the value at all, I guarantee you that there’s no more people that want that 2016 freedom group era rifle today than there was back then on a model that probably wasn’t hugely popular. I’d say that’s a $800 rifle and $1200 optic at best. Take another 5-10% off the value for the package together since you have to find someone that wants both.

You could buy a better rifle and optic for less $$ though.

 

[MarshallDodge]

I like some of the old Remington rifles. While that one may be rare, and even if it shoots great, the rest of the setup is getting pretty far behind what is currently available.

I wouldn't give more than 2K for it.

 

[fnbrowning]

It's not an SPS... That's a 700P. The SPS was a CMV barrel and action, standard 6-groove rifling, and came in a shitty cheap Hogue overmold rubber stock. This is a 700P, which is a 416r stainless steel action and 5R barrel, and comes in an HS Precision fiberglass stock, like all the other Senderos and 5R Milspec models, 700P, 700 LTR, and 700 PSS rifles back in the day. -snip- not to mention the stainless barrel and action, and the 5R rifled barrel, which came out of the M24 stockpile (all of Remingtons 5R barrels used to).

@FuhQ
Do you remember if Remington hammer-forged these stainless barrels, or was this a button or cut-rifled barrel?

 

[supercorndogs]

What that old line, just cause its rare doesn't mean it valuable.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

It's not an SPS... That's a 700P. The SPS was a CMV barrel and action, standard 6-groove rifling, and came in a shitty cheap Hogue overmold rubber stock. This is a 700P, which is a 416r stainless steel action and 5R barrel, and comes in an HS Precision fiberglass stock, like all the other Senderos and 5R Milspec models, 700P, 700 LTR, and 700 PSS rifles back in the day. New the 5R rifles were about $1,200 going rate around 2015. Huge difference between a 700 SPS and a 700P/Milspec. Just the price difference between the 2 stock is about $350-400, not to mention the stainless barrel and action, and the 5R rifled barrel, which came out of the M24 stockpile (all of Remingtons 5R barrels used to). Now all Rem Arms rifles come standard with 5R rifling and modern twist rates for modern heavy bullets...Which is a damn nice upgrade for them. Long overdue.

As for the rest, I agree.

How did I miss this little piece of gold? Once again, the resident dipshit doesn't know WTF he's talking about. I own two 700P's and one LTR and have had a whole lot more... They are 100% positively chromoly actions and barrel and 6 groove barrels. The only difference between a 700P and a SPS Varmint barreled action is the finish except for the last few years where they did 5R barrels on some limited runs of 700P's. Before that the 700P and 700 VS were the identical barreled action except the finish.

Those 5R barrels also did not come out of the M24 stockpile, thats an old rumor.

You should not spread "knowledge" when you don't know WTF you're talking about.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

@FuhQ
Do you remember if Remington hammer-forged these stainless barrels, or was this a button or cut-rifled barrel?

They're hammer forged and that dude doesn't know WTF he's talking about.

 

[fnbrowning]

@redneckbmxer24
You've proven to have strong opinions in this tread, so let's see what you're talking about here.

>>Remember this is a Remington rifle thread<< What is this better Remington rifle reasonably available now direct from a shop or listed online? Be advised, that NSX scope lists for ~$1900, so deducting that extra cost, you are claiming there is a better Remington rifle in a M24 style HS Precision stock or similar upgraded stock - - that apparently shoots dime-sized groups, for $1600 or less OK? - - Go!

 

[FuhQ]

How did I miss this little piece of gold? Once again, the resident dipshit doesn't know WTF he's talking about. I own two 700P's and one LTR and have had a whole lot more... They are 100% positively chromoly actions and barrel and 6 groove barrels. The only difference between a 700P and a SPS Varmint barreled action is the finish except for the last few years where they did 5R barrels on some limited runs of 700P's. Before that the 700P and 700 VS were the identical barreled action except the finish.

Those 5R barrels also did not come out of the M24 stockpile, thats an old rumor.

You should not spread "knowledge" when you don't know WTF you're talking about.

Did I say anything about the PSS/LTR being a stainless action and barrel? Nope... I said the 700P in the post he linked, and 5R Milspec models are. So, congrats on your lack of reading compression. Dumbass.

Actually, the original 5R barrels were from leftover stock from a contract run. Then they started making the 5R a production model, and so they just started using all the same barrels. The original M24 barrels were cut-rifled barrels made by Obermeyer and Rock Creek using the Obermeyer 5R rifling. Then somewhere along the way, Remington started hammer-forging the M24 barrels and kept the 5R rifling. Maybe you should learn exactly what the fuck you're talking about, before you start opening that gigantic cockholster you got.

You are the one who doesn't know WTF you're talking about 99% of the time, but you think you do and several others think you do, and swing on your nuts, as if it means something. It's really sad how stupid people are that they actually believe a damn thing you have to say.

 

[FuhQ]

@FuhQ
Do you remember if Remington hammer-forged these stainless barrels, or was this a button or cut-rifled barrel?

The newer ones are hammer-forged. The original M24 barrels were cut-rifled Obermeyer or Rock Creeks. Not sure when the switch happened, but sometime in the early 2000's.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

@redneckbmxer24
You've proven to have strong opinions in this tread, so let's see what you're talking about here.

>>Remember this is a Remington rifle thread<< What is this better Remington rifle reasonably available now direct from a shop or listed online? Be advised, that NSX scope lists for ~$1900, so deducting that extra cost, you are claiming there is a better Remington rifle in a M24 style HS Precision stock or similar upgraded stock - - that apparently shoots dime-sized groups, for $1600 or less OK? - - Go!

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Well my first issue is with those groups that the bullet holes aren't even .308" unless those aren't 1" squares. I can see with the naked eye that that doesn't look right and also compared to the 308 case. So I'd say there's some deception there on the sellers part.

That rifle is not worth $1600, but if that's the price point you're going for there's a lot of options of rifles that will shoot every bit as good as the best shooting 700P's. You can even start assembling customs for around that price point.

Did I say anything about the PSS/LTR being a stainless action and barrel? Nope... I said the 700P in the post he linked, and 5R Milspec models are. So, congrats on your lack of reading compression. Dumbass.

Actually, the original 5R barrels were from leftover stock from a contract run. Then they started making the 5R a production model, and so they just started using all the same barrels. The original M24 barrels were cut-rifled barrels made by Obermeyer and Rock Creek using the Obermeyer 5R rifling. Then somewhere along the way, Remington started hammer-forging the M24 barrels and kept the 5R rifling. Maybe you should learn exactly what the fuck you're talking about, before you start opening that gigantic cockholster you got.

You are the one who doesn't know WTF you're talking about 99% of the time, but you think you do and several others think you do, and swing on your nuts, as if it means something. It's really sad how stupid people are that they actually believe a damn thing you have to say.

See the bold underlined part of your post in the quote... LOL

 

[supercorndogs]

@redneckbmxer24
You've proven to have strong opinions in this tread, so let's see what you're talking about here.

>>Remember this is a Remington rifle thread<< What is this better Remington rifle reasonably available now direct from a shop or listed online? Be advised, that NSX scope lists for ~$1900, so deducting that extra cost, you are claiming there is a better Remington rifle in a M24 style HS Precision stock or similar upgraded stock - - that apparently shoots dime-sized groups, for $1600 or less OK? - - Go!

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1600 for a factory 700P.. Better hurry and buy it. Start shooting dem dime sized groups with it.

 

[fnbrowning]

Well my first issue is with those groups that the bullet holes aren't even .308" unless those aren't 1" squares. I can see with the naked eye that that doesn't look right and also compared to the 308 case. So I'd say there's some deception there on the sellers part.

That rifle is not worth $1600, but if that's the price point you're going for there's a lot of options of rifles that will shoot every bit as good as the best shooting 700P's. You can even start assembling customs for around that price point.

See the bold underlined part of your post in the quote... LOL

@redneckbmxer24
I'm not "going for a price point of $1600" I'm trying to nail down a highly opinionated poster on where these great shooting Remington OOB rifles are right now today, and as a face-saving gesture to yourself, I'm giving you a generous $1600 to work with. That's the Gun broker rifle minus the scope. So far, all you've done is insult one member and disclaim the targets I posted - which BTW were from an identical rifle as the Gun Broker piece. Where's this $800 to $1600 dime size groups rifle you claim is easy to find? Already stocked and boxed?

 

[MarshallDodge]

I have two R700 rifles from the 90s, a 223VS and a 223LTR. For box stock rifles, they shoot really well, especially after tuning the Walker-type triggers. With some handloading work, they are typically around 1/2 MOA. That's not custom rifle material but still respectable.

That said, factory rifles can be a crapshoot. Remington has turned out a lot of crap over the years, especially in the 2010-2020 time frame. Tikka is the only rifle that I would spend more than 1K on these days.

 

[jbell]

Actually, the original 5R barrels were from leftover stock from a contract run. Then they started making the 5R a production model, and so they just started using all the same barrels. The original M24 barrels were cut-rifled barrels made by Obermeyer and Rock Creek using the Obermeyer 5R rifling. Then somewhere along the way, Remington started hammer-forging the M24 barrels and kept the 5R rifling. Maybe you should learn exactly what the fuck you're talking about, before you start opening that gigantic cockholster you got.

I am not trying to get in the middle of yet another one of y’all’s pissing matches (which I thoroughly enjoy by the way), but this info is correct **from what I have heard**. At least for the very early M24 builds.

On the subject of the early PSS rifles, I bought one of the first ones offered with the HS stocks (1991 production date I think) when it was new. It was an absolute hammer! Seriously, it shot as well as any of my custom built rifles, AI’s, TRG’s, SSG3000, etc. There was a time when Remington truly made fantastic rifles.

 

[supercorndogs]

I have heard the same but have never found anyway or anyone who can substantiate it further than, "I heard." That seems like a tell tale sign of a rumor.

 

[Chickentoast]

I still have a 1st gen 5R milspec that shoots 1/4" with 208 eld-m's @ 2640. Great rifle for its time, and unique because the pornstar throat allows for a longer coal to get that velocity with heavies. Think I paid 750 or so for the rifle new.

Now, just buy your favorite Lego set and cut your barrel with the freebore you want. Silly to buy one of these other than for nostalgia.

 

[supercorndogs]

A 1/4" you say.

 

[jbell]

I have heard the same but have never found anyway or anyone who can substantiate it further than, "I heard." That seems like a tell tale sign of a rumor.

Likely true, it’s hard to be 100% certain this far removed from the beginning of the M24 project.

 

[FuhQ]

I am not trying to get in the middle of yet another one of y’all’s pissing matches (which I thoroughly enjoy by the way), but this info is correct **from what I have heard**. At least for the very early M24 builds.

On the subject of the early PSS rifles, I bought one of the first ones offered with the HS stocks (1991 production date I think) when it was new. It was an absolute hammer! Seriously, it shot as well as any of my custom built rifles, AI’s, TRG’s, SSG3000, etc. There was a time when Remington truly made fantastic rifles.

I don't start these pissing matches... I just defend myself from that retard running his fucking mouth.

 

[FuhQ]

I still have a 1st gen 5R milspec that shoots 1/4" with 208 eld-m's @ 2640. Great rifle for its time, and unique because the pornstar throat allows for a longer coal to get that velocity with heavies. Think I paid 750 or so for the rifle new.

Now, just buy your favorite Lego set and cut your barrel with the freebore you want. Silly to buy one of these other than for nostalgia.

I have 2 Gen1 5R Milspecs. A 24" .308 Win (now cut to 22" and threaded, and sitting in a Solus chassis) and a 26" .300 WinMag, which has been threaded, but remains full 26" barrel in the original HS Precision stock. Both now have TriggerTech Specials in them. Both are absolute tack-drivers for factory rifles. Bought the .308 Win new in 2010, and the .300WM new in 2013/2014 time frame. They were easily the best civi production rifles that Remington ever made.

 

[Chickentoast]

A 1/4" you say.

Yes, here's a load from that barrel. My 208 load would often cloverleaf @ 465 yds when the wind was quiet.

.308 Winchester

Can anyone report on their experiences switching between Federal to Lapua brass using an already established load? I'm just wondering if I can plan on pressure/speed going up, down or stay the same. I know its probably different for everyone, just seeing what your guys experiences have been to...

www.snipershide.com

 

[supercorndogs]

I don't start these pissing matches... I just defend myself from that retard running his fucking mouth.

2010-2014 best rifles remington ever made. Are they 1/4 minute of bullshit also?

 

[Charger442]

2010-2014 best rifles remington ever made. Are they 1/4 minute of bullshit also?

I had to read that several.... several times before I could comprehend what he said because it's just.....

 

[FuhQ]

2010-2014 best rifles remington ever made. Are they 1/4 minute of bullshit also?

They actually started making them around 2000/2001. And compared to the regular 700's of that era, yes, they were much more likely to be a shooter than not.

.308 Win...



.300 WinMag...

 

[Charger442]

They actually started making them around 2000/2001. And compared to the regular 700's of that era, yes, they were much more likely to be a shooter than not.

.308 Win...

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.300 WinMag...

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If I am unable to procure the rare rifle in the OP, how much would you be willing to sell the best rifle Remington ever made for? That would be really something incredible to own

 

[FuhQ]

If I am unable to procure the rare rifle in the OP, how much would you be willing to sell the best rifle Remington ever made for? That would be really something incredible to own

Well... I'm not in the business of selling guns, I just buy more when I get bored of tinkering with it. So thanks, but no thanks.

 

[Charger442]

Well... I'm not in the business of selling guns, I just buy more when I get bored of tinkering with it. So thanks, but no thanks.

That's really a smart move on your part. It's basically priceless and it's only going to skyrocket in value. There's going to be some serious Remington collectors wanting to buy that rifle of yours. You tell them no, no matter what. It's too valuable to sell

 

[supercorndogs]

I would sell you one but I shot out all my factory barrels already. I got a real nice RR action for ya though. It has primary extraction, and straight base holes I promise.

 

[Charger442]

I would sell you one but I shot out all my factory barrels already. I got a real nice RR action for ya though. It has primary extraction, and straight base holes I promise.

 

[supercorndogs]

600 for an RR action. Sheeeet I know what I got.

 

[Charger442]

600 for an RR action. Sheeeet I know what I got.

is that the best one ever made? ill sell off or throw in the trash my 1903 and my 40x to have the best rifle Remington ever made ever.