Fieldcraft Intuition

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As there do not appear to be any threads breaching the topic yet I figured I'd get one rolling.

There are a few directions a thread like this could go, principally delving into personal experiences or training methods.

While it would be best to stick with personal experiences since there are some really great stories out there worth retelling I won't say don't share.

To get the ball rolling on training methods my instructor has always maintained "the most critical factor to training your intuition is to react in some way EVERY time you receive an intuitive signal".

My personal technique is to instantly flank left or right one step while stooping thus relocating my head and upper body as I feign a sudden look of realization(to cover up the sudden movement) and turn my head enough to see behind then at a moderate pace scan back around to the front. The intention of the feign is not to say "haha I know you are there", it is quite the opposite, to the observer I appear deep in thought and completely disconnected from the environment around me. This way I can shift rapidly into counter surveillance drills and dissappear if the situation allows it. The feign also eliminates unnecessary embaressment since most of the time the trigger will merely be someone INTENSELY focusing on you but not actually presenting an immediate threat.

Intuitive signals differ from person to person and over time, currently my most common indicator is a rapid tension in the chest but when I was first starting out with partner drills it was realizing that I was leaning forward for no reason. For the uninitiated, practice in partner drills revolves around standing still while your Training partner attempts to focus a genuine intent to do you harm and proceeds to attack you from behind. Probably the most useful tool the brain has to alert you of immediate danger is memories and as such training and real world experiences are essential for developing a finely honed sense of what is to come.

As far as personal experiences go, I have succesfully slipped out of an ambush milliseconds before the shit hit the fan and once while messing around in border towns between Vietnam and China my Threat level reached some pretty critical levels, no two ways about it those people hated me. Also I once had the good fortune to be involved in the training of a person to fight blindfolded which was freakishly effective.

As far as hand me down stories go a friend whom had the unusual fortune of being in the Australian SAS during the Vietnam conflict tells a story of getting the "feeling" that there was someone else on the other side of a valley ahead so he squated on his haunches and waited, for two days, pissing and shitting in his own pants. After two days and Lord knows what going through his mind a stick broke up ahead, he fired two 7.62mm rounds and heard the unmistakable thump of a body hitting the ground. I guess after 2 days the other guy thought it was just in his imagination.
 
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wow, I didn't realise the question was so well hidden...I said, "share some stories"

For the record, I lose nothing if you don't but may gain a good read if you do, so you decide if you want to.

I'm pretty sure I didn't say "magic, voodoo, alien invasion" so try and keep it real.

No point wasting space so here's another story I picked up along the way, this ones from a documentary about the Vietnam conflict wherein a fellow recanted witnessing a particularly perceptive individual stop a patrol, aim into the tree tops and drop an unfortunate from his perch. The gentleman is alleged to have said something along the lines of "I just felt there was someone there".

 
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I find your thread fascinating.
And consider it an amazing luck on my part that you posted such a thread when I visited the forum seeking expertise in a subject similar to your post....

Stealthy, may I ask you question in PM? If so, please begin the dialog by messaging me first. Thanks!

I have zero combat experience but have taking some training in the sniper craft.

But I'm fascinated by what you are talking about and love to watch documentaries and well produced programs that illustrate the science behind our physical reactions and intuitions and instincts.

One show was about the human brain and how it can slow down time in high stress moments.

I experienced this for myself when I was in a car accident and I had the ability to choose the safest place to direct my car after the impact. The intuition part comes in...I had this feeling...right before the accident... but I didn't know what it was telling me and so well...

Totally not the same thing...but I wanted to support your thread.
 
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one day I felt a rumbling in the force, I was sure I was having a intuitive moment but couldnt place it. A few minutes later I sharted in my pants......AH the mysteries of the human mind
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stealthy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As there do not appear to be any threads breaching the topic yet I figured I'd get one rolling.

There are a few directions a thread like this could go, principally delving into personal experiences or training methods.

While it would be best to stick with personal experiences since there are some really great stories out there worth retelling I won't say don't share.

To get the ball rolling on training methods my instructor has always maintained "the most critical factor to training your intuition is to react in some way EVERY time you receive an intuitive signal".

My personal technique is to instantly flank left or right one step while stooping thus relocating my head and upper body as I feign a sudden look of realization(to cover up the sudden movement) and turn my head enough to see behind then at a moderate pace scan back around to the front. The intention of the feign is not to say "haha I know you are there", it is quite the opposite, to the observer I appear deep in thought and completely disconnected from the environment around me. This way I can shift rapidly into counter surveillance drills and dissappear if the situation allows it. The feign also eliminates unnecessary embaressment since most of the time the trigger will merely be someone INTENSELY focusing on you but not actually presenting an immediate threat.

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This isnt the first time I am glad there is no smellovision on the interwebz
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I dont much believe in raw intuition. I think most the time we look back, if we survive, and feel some inner voice guided us. Those whom it didnt, oh well, sucks to be them!

Now I do believe in training until muscle memory is so deeply engrained we react without any pause to think. As an aside- that level of training is rarely attempted by most amateurs.

Now many war stories are just that, a look back with a bit of wax to rub in eloquently. I dont know too many men who can squat for 2 hours and not cramp.

Training can give a soldier a series of 'tells' to give warning about that is ahead on the trail or around the corner. To a 'cruit it might seem like magic, but its not. Nor is it natural born. Some will be better at it, as in other skills we learn.

But we learn it, usually from the book written in those who went before us's blood.

I was shooting in very lowlight at a 500 yard steel target. I couldnt tell where my round went, just no ring to the steel. An old vietnam era vet stood behind me and after a few more misses suggested I dail some right wind on. Next round he suggested another minute. I hit with the next round. (In the gloom I misread what wind I had on the rifle)

I asked him how he knew I was missing to the left he told me he heard the echo off the target more in his right ear.

Of course I threw the BS flag! Old fart can hear what??!!

So I would send rounds around the target and he would tell me on what side I pulled the round. He didnt get them all correct but enough to know he wasnt guessing.

It wasnt some unseen higher power
He wasnt a natural shooter
He had spent his entire adult life shooting and then pushing his understanding and skills until he was just that good.

Thats been awhile ago, I cant imagine what he has come up with by now
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VAJayJayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just squirted in my pants a little laughing so hard, where was my fucking intuition for that? guess I need some trainin </div></div>

Just for you VJJ
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I had a premonition once. In the Big Horns resting after a day’s hunt.

I got the feeling something was outside the tent. I stepped out, sure enough a 7X7 Bull.

I took two shots, but by the time I got the cap back on the bottle he was gone.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stealthy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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This site is friggin terrific, I have never been more happy that someone recommended that I check it out. Brilliant.

Anyway, I personally believe that "intuition" is BS. You must simply train to the highest level that you can to avoid hyper-vigilence when the SHTF. You must train to build confidence in your ability so that you do not panic when you come to realize that someone has the drop on you.

As far as detailing what exact motions I will take when confronted, much akin to how you spelled it out, I am not sure. I know that, as I have in the past in some bad situations, I will revert back to my training when "my body stops asking my mind for permission to act".

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VAJayJayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">one day I felt a rumbling in the force, I was sure I was having a intuitive moment but couldnt place it. A few minutes later I sharted in my pants......AH the mysteries of the human mind </div></div>

Damn it, I just spit water everywhere.
 
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Hey this is real guys, I can't believe you are making light of this. I play a lot of poker and I see guys do this all the time when playing garbage hands like 72 and Q3, when they hit a monster after calling a huge raise they say they had a feeling. I have been scalded enough to have a healthy respect for this intuition. I am working on perfecting it myself and have begun to force myself to play only crap hands and only when I have that tingly feeling in my chip hand. I figure another 20K and I should have this technique down pat. Expensive training but oh so worth the money lost when I can hit those straight flushes with just a hunch!
 
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Intuition can apply to a lot of reactions made if a person is placed under somewhat high levels of stress. But that is not the only case, and the term intuition may not be accurate. The human body is way more receptive to outside stimuli than most folks think. As humans evolved, our safety, security, nourishment, and alertness has allowed less and less use of the primal instincts that was once a required for our survival. Thats not to say they are gone. The abilities to activate these senses is still there, but require placing the person in an environment where the body will react accordingly. A wild animal on a hunt can sense prey by sight, smell, and sound. Take away that animals ability and its chances to survive lessens. I dont believe in a psycic moment, or devine intervention. But animals can sense there is something in the area, so can humans. We just need a good nudge the do it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stealthy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As far as hand me down stories go a friend whom had the unusual fortune of being in the Australian SAS during the Vietnam conflict tells a story of getting the "feeling" that there was someone else on the other side of a valley ahead so he squated on his haunches and waited, for two days, <span style="text-decoration: underline">pissing and shitting in his own pants</span>.</div></div>

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I can relate to the sentiment, hence the problem with stories that do not come first hand. In all likelihood the fellow this story came from was dishonorably discharged for loading his car up with enough marijuana to be taken seriously and then "coincidently" getting busted for it before shipping off in the first place.

But that's not to say it isn't a great story.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: desertrat1979</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Intuition can apply to a lot of reactions made if a person is placed under somewhat high levels of stress. But that is not the only case, and the term intuition may not be accurate. The human body is way more receptive to outside stimuli than most folks think. As humans evolved, our safety, security, nourishment, and alertness has allowed less and less use of the primal instincts that was once a required for our survival. Thats not to say they are gone. The abilities to activate these senses is still there, but require placing the person in an environment where the body will react accordingly. A wild animal on a hunt can sense prey by sight, smell, and sound. Take away that animals ability and its chances to survive lessens. I dont believe in a psycic moment, or devine intervention. But animals can sense there is something in the area, so can humans. We just need a good nudge the do it. </div></div>

my intuition tells me that your avatar is what the OP looks like at his keyboard
 
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Man was I confused when I read the OP the first, and second time...
Now I get where you're going...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: melody</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
One show was about the human brain and how it can slow down time in high stress moments.
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NO! I don't want to explain the Googleable information on the biomechanics of reaction time and "time slowing" by the mind... But I will give you a brief explanation: During times of stress, your heart rate will increase, and your brain fires more information, and you will REMEMBER more about each instance. You experience everything at the same rate, but you will remember more about times of stress and 'fight or flight'. This is a definite myth.

As for the rest of this thread: hysterically amusing.