Iran Invasion time?

[Gunfighter14e2]

120K troops is an invasion force. May be their going to try out all those nifty new toys?

NYT: Pentagon presented plan to deploy 120,000 troops in case of Iran escalation

The plan was reportedly ordered by White House national security adviser John Bolton.

www.axios.com

 

[Maggot]

You go ahead, Ill watch CNN.

 

[Fig]

Pentagon “presented plan” means...nothing. They also presented a plan in case Putin orders a first nuclear strike. This is about Obama for the media. They’re still trying to justify and cover his treason.

 

[FS1]

It seems very convenient that every problem we have ie NK, China, Venez, Iran and Israel, all seem to be festering and oozing as Obama is exposed.

 

[Mr.BR]

Just waiting for the gang out of israel to provoke some shit like blowing up a tanker which is then blamed on Iran in this fact and evidence free new era. The tribe sure does like US to fight their fights.

 

[Lapuapalooza]

I think Israel has proven by now they don’t need anyone to fight their fights. They are the badass in their region and have shown great restraint when it comes to their military abilities.

 

[pmclaine]

I think Israel has proven by now they don’t need anyone to fight their fights. They are the badass in their region and have shown great restraint when it comes to their military abilities.

Though I agree to an extent they should have been taught a hard lesson for what they did to the USS Liberty - the original Benghazi.

 

[BoilerUP]

The tanker ships that were 'sabotaged' transiting the Strait of Hormuz the other day certainly jack up tensions in the region...

And let's be honest here, we absolutely do NOT need to invade Iran under any circumstance - if we really want them hit hard all the US needs to do is allow Israeli warplanes to transit Iraqi airspace...

 

[Inifinty]

I wonder what they named this plan? “$10 apocalypse pony rides”

I get that they been asking for an ass kicking for 45 years. But those crazies over there want to be attacked to initiate thier mahdi prophecies. This one won’t be like Iraq gents and will likley coincide with a whole host of other events.

 

[sabrecross]

Just waiting for the gang out of israel to provoke some shit like blowing up a tanker which is then blamed on Iran in this fact and evidence free new era. The tribe sure does like US to fight their fights.

The most dumbass post I've ever seen on this site; it takes the cake. Watch your "tribe" comments. As pmclaine stated, they can handle their own shit and they do. It's good to have allies in a seabed of shit.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

As pmclaine stated, they can handle their own shit and they do.

Seems they can handle many things well,...

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[Maser]

 

[Inifinty]

Yeah lets see we got the pentagon plan.

We got the Iranian mahdi plan.

And we got someone else wrapping up their plans to build a buried shrine under the old temple in Jerusalem. And wouldn't you know there are pretty pictures all over youtube with US Secretary of state getting a grand tour. Oh and lets not forget that it's well described in Ezekiel 8, right down to the 70 seats.

I'd say there is all kinds of planning going on, but our news has Game of Thrones, and Maddona on the front page.

Y'all might consider planning to buy a years worth of whatever you might need and a case of that Army Jerry ammo. Get freeze dried and dried stuffs, cause who knows how long its going to take for the plan in totality to go hot.

 

[Fig]

Hackers FROM Israel is not the Israeli government no matter how cutesy the "reporter" wants to get.
“a private company that has been known to work with governments to deliver spyware.”
After the disclaimer you would think this was the Israeli government hacking a private APP for grins. Not defending this if it is the Israeli Government, but based on that article it isn't.

 

[Fig]

All true. Every word.

 

[Precisiondada]

These plans exist for areas across the globe, doesn’t mean shit

 

[Maggot]

The most dumbass post I've ever seen on this site; it takes the cake. Watch your "tribe" comments. As pmclaine stated, they can handle their own shit and they do. It's good to have allies in a seabed of shit.

Until yours.

Cant take the truth?

At least on this one point, Omar is right, that "Israel has been buying American influence with Benjamins." Thats a fact, and so does any one else who can afford a politician or two.

 

[Mr.BR]

The most dumbass post I've ever seen on this site; it takes the cake. Watch your "tribe" comments. As pmclaine stated, they can handle their own shit and they do. It's good to have allies in a seabed of shit.

Actualy not ,at best they can do a limited airstrike in the region, air strikes do not win a war ,boots on the ground do,they prefer US to do the boots on the ground & spending taxpayers money by the trilion that acompanies these endevours (Iraq ,Syria) .In adition to freebes Israel gets US pays of every naighbour thay have basicaly to leave them alone.(Egypt,Jordan,Lebanon).


Short memories
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4529789/benjamin-netanyahu-projects-benefits-war-iraq-2002

False pretenses are how most wars start. At present Isreal and the Gulf dictatorships are quite eager to see US attack Iran.

 

[Maggot]

Horseshit.

I could, and have, given a number of good reasons, but the brainwashing has been so thorough few if any can hear. I dont have time to waste on intentionally obstinacy.

 

[candyx]

If you want your 401K's to go up we need these companies in business bombing the shit out of other people who don't like us

1. Lockheed Martin Corporation
2. The Boeing Company
3. Raytheon Company
4. General Dynamics Corporation
5. Northrop Grumman Corporation
6. United Technologies Corporation
7. L-3 Communications
8. BAE Systems

Let's not forget about Halliburton they need war work to keep their stock price stable.

 

[Fig]

How much time have you spent in Israel? What makes you and Mr. Br experts?

So, what, exactly is your reason for not supporting them? They're sneaky and act in their own self interests? Or is it that they're money grubbing?

Lets total up what we've spent protecting our NATO "Allies" over the last 60+ years. Who is the better "ally"?

 

[pmclaine]

I wonder what they named this plan? “$10 apocalypse pony rides”

I get that they been asking for an ass kicking for 45 years. But those crazies over there want to be attacked to initiate thier mahdi prophecies. This one won’t be like Iraq gents and will likley coincide with a whole host of other events.

Iraq wasnt like Iraq was supposed to be.

Want to ruin a plan? Put it into action.

what would fill the Iran void?

 

[Maggot]

If you want your 401K's to go up we need these companies in business bombing the shit out of other people who don't like us

1. Lockheed Martin Corporation
2. The Boeing Company
3. Raytheon Company
4. General Dynamics Corporation
5. Northrop Grumman Corporation
6. United Technologies Corporation
7. L-3 Communications
8. BAE Systems

Let's not forget about Halliburton they need war work to keep their stock price stable.

Cha fucking Ching

 

[Maggot]

How much time have you spent in Israel? What makes you and Mr. Br experts?

So, what, exactly is your reason for not supporting them? They're sneaky and act in their own self interests? Or is it that they're money grubbing?

Lets total up what we've spent protecting our NATO "Allies" over the last 60+ years. Who is the better "ally"?

Ive put them up numerous times. Few care to do the study to learn the truth, they would rather buy an easy lie.

If you will bear with my pedantic style, perhaps I can walk you through it.

1-Who was instrumental in founding the Nation State of Israel?
2-Who was behind the American interests that founded the Federal Reserve?

Answer those and we'll move on.

A hint:

Who made this quote:" Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws! "

 

[Inifinty]

All true. Every word.

A reasoned response based on the popular info readily at hand.

Plus we must be on the same team since their supreme court is plastered with all the same images on the US dollar. And as a giant bonus it's got a big vagina stair case being penetrated by a shaft with a nice pretty light shining through.. what's not to like about that??

Nobody and no group of people should be persecuted for who they are, nobody. But that doesn't mean there isn't a handful of men somewhere over the rainbow hiding in and among manipulating the marionette strings..

4 Stings of power to rule any nation or the World - > Politics, Education, Finance, and Religions.

Those strings can be followed to the source all the way back to ancient Babylonian history and beyond. It makes for a great and enlightening study.

 

[Maggot]

A reasoned response based on the popular info readily at hand.

Plus we must be on the same team since their supreme court is plastered with all the same images on the US dollar. And as a giant bonus it's got a big vagina stair case being penetrated by a shaft with a nice pretty light shining through.. what's not to like about that??

Nobody and no group of people should be persecuted for who they are, nobody. But that doesn't mean there isn't a handful of men somewhere over the rainbow hiding in and among manipulating the marionette strings..

4 Stings of power to rule any nation or the World - > Politics, Education, Finance, and Religions.

Those strings can be followed to the source all the way back to ancient Babylonian history and beyond. It makes for a great and enlightening study.

Excellent, though I would only give it 3 strings, the unholy trinity of: Politics, Finance, and Religion. Education is covered under Politics.

 

[clcustom1911]

I wonder what they named this plan? “$10 apocalypse pony rides”

I get that they been asking for an ass kicking for 45 years. But those crazies over there want to be attacked to initiate thier mahdi prophecies. This one won’t be like Iraq gents and will likley coincide with a whole host of other events.

Correct. Hussein in Iraq was not exactly the religious fanatic the Iranians are: he actually ramped down that fanatic shit on the regular. With Iran, it's the opposite: An invasion is what they want to justify everything they've been saying since the Islamic revolution. It'll be a knock down, drag out fight....


Until they turn tail and run like all the Adidas track suit terrorists do.

Unless they go full-ruh-tard and go nuclear. Then we're all taking a bite of the proverbial shit sandwich.

 

[pmclaine]

Interesting times.

We will find out who our friends are now. Europe only cares about cheap oil and they are trying to determine which branch of the muslim religion they want to follow.

We are going to feel pain from the China trade war. Lets hope they are as weak as we believe.

Lets hope our farmers are stronger than we believe. They are the front lines right now.

China probably thinks it good NK and Iran keep us occupied to get us off the implementation of good US trade policies. expect those two to sabre rattle.

In the background you have fellow travelers in the Commie/deep state sphere also hoping to handcuff Trump with a BS war to get him off putting them in jail.

Immigration reform is a promise Trump can not be allowed to perform. Failure there cuts off his base.

Fire up Venezuela to exacerbate the exodus.

Israel is not the problem.

Buy more ammo!

 

[MarinePMI]

If you want your 401K's to go up we need these companies in business bombing the shit out of other people who don't like us

1. Lockheed Martin Corporation
2. The Boeing Company
3. Raytheon Company
4. General Dynamics Corporation
5. Northrop Grumman Corporation
6. United Technologies Corporation
7. L-3 Communications
8. BAE Systems

Let's not forget about Halliburton they need war work to keep their stock price stable.

Whoohooo!!! (We made your list).

 

[MarinePMI]

Seriously though, look at a map (yes, geography does matter!).

Let's face it; Iran is today's version of Laos in Vietnam (with the exception that they, Iran, are bounded by two countries that we currently have troops in).

If there is to be stability in the region, Iran is going to have to be put in it's place (one way or the other; economically, or by force).

Ain't any other way this is going to turn well for us and the rest of the world. Iran needs to go down, or have a significant political shift. Period.

We can wring our hands, theorize plans that somehow peacefully end up with positive outcome, but the bottom line is, we're likely going to have to do it by force (or threat of force). The ME is just one shit sandwich; the only question is how big a bite of it we're going to have to take.

JMTCW...

 

[Fig]

Again, if you actually went to Israel and spent any time there you would completely change your mind, and stop with the illuminati, conspiracy theory, bullshit.

Since you have secret knowledge that disputes the facts on the ground as we know them, why don't you go down Stephen Harper's list, item by item, and explain to us where he is getting it wrong?

Hussein was a Baathist, which is about as secular as an Islamic party gets. Still, when discussing what a swell guy he was rarely is it mentioned that he was directly responsible for the execution of an estimated 600,000 Iraqis over the course of his 24 year rule. The Anfal alone murdered 100,000 Kurds. About a half a million died in the war with Iran (more than triple that on the Iranian side).

Whether you GAF or not, judging by the cost of human life (including 5,000 American Soldiers over 15 years), and adding up how many people he would have murdered if he stayed in power for that 15 years... The war saved millions, and millions, and millions of lives.

This is pretty illustrative, and imagine of Obama hadn't entirely pulled out and ISIS hadn't taken over.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...aq-war-is-still-murky/?utm_term=.37e4979bdf55

Blaming Israel or relitigating is retarded. Iran has been at war with us since 1979. That you seem to not know that is a testament to how powerful and effective they are.

 

[Inifinty]

Iraq wasnt like Iraq was supposed to be.

Want to ruin a plan? Put it into action.

what would fill the Iran void?

Iran may get pummeled but will not become a void.

At least until they come at us in formation later with other islamic nations under the skirt of Russia. Why would they come at us? Because we stop worshiping the damn devil thinking he's Jesus.

Hard to imagine and sounds a bit crazy I'm sure, but the Big plan is very dynamic in nature with many twists.

 

[Maggot]

Interesting times.

We will find out who our friends are now. Europe only cares about cheap oil and they are trying to determine which branch of the muslim religion they want to follow.

We are going to feel pain from the China trade war. Lets hope they are as weak as we believe.

Lets hope our farmers are stronger than we believe. They are the front lines right now.

China probably thinks it good NK and Iran keep us occupied to get us off the implementation of good US trade policies. expect those two to sabre rattle.

In the background you have fellow travelers in the Commie/deep state sphere also hoping to handcuff Trump with a BS war to get him off putting them in jail.

Immigration reform is a promise Trump can not be allowed to perform. Failure there cuts off his base.

Fire up Venezuela to exacerbate the exodus.

Israel is ONLY ONE OF the problemS.

Buy more ammo!

Fixed it.

 

[Maggot]

Iran may get pummeled but will not become a void.

At least until they come at us in formation later with other islamic nations under the skirt of Russia. Why would they come at us? Because we stop worshiping the damn devil thinking he's Jesus.

Hard to imagine and sounds a bit crazy I'm sure, but the Big plan is very dynamic in nature with many twists.

The Eagle, the Bear, and the Dragon.

 

[FS1]

Who made this quote:" Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws! "

With the stroke of a pen Trump could nationalize the Fed and it's assets.

If you want your 401K's to go up we need these companies in business bombing the shit out of other people who don't like us

1. Lockheed Martin Corporation
2. The Boeing Company
3. Raytheon Company
4. General Dynamics Corporation
5. Northrop Grumman Corporation
6. United Technologies Corporation
7. L-3 Communications
8. BAE Systems

Let's not forget about Halliburton they need war work to keep their stock price stable.

I own shares of 2-4 and six. waiting for a good buy on 5 and 1.

Trump is a true warrior. What I mean by that is when he fights he fights to win. He is not a prolonged conflict kind of warrior. He is a go in annihilate and go home type of guy. We have not had that kind of Warrior for a President in a long time.

 

[MarinePMI]

General Atomics would be another good one to add to that list....

 

[Fig]

There is only one Devil, and Mohamed is his prophet.
Seriously?

 

[Maggot]

With the stroke of a pen Trump could nationalize the Fed and it's assets.

Guess what happened to the last President that tried that.

 

[Erno86]

The tanker ships that were 'sabotaged' transiting the Strait of Hormuz the other day certainly jack up tensions in the region...

And let's be honest here, we absolutely do NOT need to invade Iran under any circumstance - if we really want them hit hard all the US needs to do is allow Israeli warplanes to transit Iraqi airspace...

If Israel wants to invade Iranian air space with warplanes....they would need the help of U.S. air refueling tankers. Obama refused that kind of support to Israel. but Trump and his Trumpers might be playing a different tune.

 

[Inifinty]

The Eagle, the Bear, and the Dragon.

Let's not forget the leopard.. because it is key.

The leopard with spots and four wings that eventually takes dominion over the Eagle and Bear and is pretty much sitting on our heads right now. It achieves it's zenith of power just before the dragon arrives and is the handful of men pulling the marionette strings. The four wings are the same as the four strings of power mentioned previously.

The dragon is big papa coming to tell every one he's Jesus returned and every other religious god, that the leopard planted in the minds of men since before the days of ancient Babylon.

 

[pmclaine]

@ArmyJerry will need to trade in the gas guzzling two wheelers for a moped......

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Iran-used-EXPLOSIVES-sabotage-ships-UAE.html

Are we in it to win it or will we cave because gas is too expensive.

They play long ball do we have the stomach.

Get those frac wells pumping.

 

[Maggot]

@ArmyJerry will need to trade in the gas guzzling two wheelers for a moped......

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Iran-used-EXPLOSIVES-sabotage-ships-UAE.html

Are we in it to win it or will we cave because gas is too expensive.

They play long ball do we have the stomach.

Get those frac wells pumping.

One thing I realized a while back is that their civilization is far older, by thousands of years, than ours, and yes they can play long ball.

I saw the same thing, sort of, in the Mayan villages in the mts of Guatemala. If we blow up our world, theirs will remain pretty much unchanged....barring total world annihilation. Theyll keep toting water from the spring, planting corn and beans with a sharp stick, weaving on small looms.

 

[pmclaine]

If we deploy 120K troops to the ME please have them be the ones in Germany/Britain and burn the barracks to the ground so they can not return.

 

[Temper]

That’s a real hot boomer take.

 

[Erno86]

Iran thinks that bowing down to any U.S. demands is a sign of weakness to them. So the Iranians are in it for the long haul, and are treating Trump's tough guy bullying tactics as if they are already at war with the U.S..

The Iranian mullahs are comparing it's present confrontation with the U.S. as the same dilemma during Iran's war with Iraq.

 

[Inifinty]

Excellent, though I would only give it 3 strings, the unholy trinity of: Politics, Finance, and Religion. Education is covered under Politics.

Oh to your point.

The original article which is the premise of the thread is presented to us via the pillar of education. Media, all of it, is education. As is traditional education. Foundations and money began steering their direction in the 1800s. That's not to say there isn't a whole lot of good being done with education. Just that there is enough compromise built in to achieve the desired result. Televised media being referred to as programming is an interesting choice of wording is it not?

But you're correct in that the lines start to blur between between these "pillars" of power. There was an order to them being solidified in the US and abroad. There is a deliberate method to the madness. To compromise a people you need to take education and religion first, then finance and politics.

 

[Inifinty]

stop with the illuminati, conspiracy theory, bullshit.

I'd agree. The contemporary illuminati bullshit is just that. A ruse to sew confusion. From, you guessed it, the pillar of education.

Much better to stick to ancient manuscripts and find the hidden gems written so cryptically in original form that the scribes and later editors over the years couldn't dilute them.

 

[Mr.BR]

First if anyone here ever actualy been to Iran , compared to the Gulf allies ,its a super freedom fries democracy. I know the PR line touted today is Iran is the big sponsor of terror, jet 95+% of all terrorists are Sunnis flowing Saudi strain of Wahabi Islam you know the 9/11 crew. Irans terror groups that are being touted are Hamas,Hezbollah and Huthis. First one is thorn for Israel and no one else(and honestly with total blockade Gaza how is Iran suposedly supplyig them?, second one much the same israel problem , the Huthis are the scurge of the Sauds that are failing with all the mercs in invasion of Yemen against barfooted folks fighting on the home turf.

I have to admit Huthis are in my view the only ones in the ME worth a penny. So far only folks you did not see mutilating bodies , beheading people and otherwise tripign on gore,unlike most 'freedom''democratic' whatever labeled jihads including the Kurds.

Huthis are whole next level ,no wonder Arabs and their mercs are failing .


Venezuela , why is ist of any concern? Democracy is hardly it as most US allies aside from Nato members and SK, Japan are hard core dictatorships. The chosen bloke named Guaido never won an election out side one district yet is somehow 'legitimate' interm president ,in any normal country in the West he would be arrested ,sentenced and imprisoned (look up Spain ,Catalonia) , and anywhere else in the world a bit shorter process would do , shot for treason. I am sure that sanctioning the folks into even greater poverty is just the ticket !! Likely will end up producing ever more pressure on US border.

North Korea ,seriously who gives a fuck ,let them handle it out with the South Koreans.

Do you ever get bored of picking on some of the worlds poorest folks who are no threat to US whatsoever.

 

[Inifinty]

Do you ever get bored of picking on some of the worlds poorest folks who are no threat to US whatsoever.

Good post. And that was a heroic man ready to give his life for his friend

We are the subject of injected stimuli to provoke a known response

The stimuli is complex, abundant, and from every angle

The end result being controlled confusion

I myself am tired of eating carrots from the stick

 

[diverdon]

So John Kerry has been conducting diplomacy with Iran in violation of the Logan act. I wonder if he explained to them how something like this could help Democrats replace President Trump in 2012/