Sidearms & Scatterguns Ithaca Auto & Burglar

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Stumbled across this (not mine/don't know 'em) - https://www.gunbroker.com/item/790430348

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Back in 1922, Ithaca took their Flues model shotgun and made a model geared towards couriers, truck drivers and folks like us. They made them in 20 gauge for starters, eventually adding them in 16, 28 and .410. Although around 4,000 total were made, only around 11 of the .410’s have been documented. They were initially chambered for 2 1/2-inch shells. There were about 2,500 of these made. The first generation models also had that “saw handle” looking grip. Apparently, if it was hit hard or dropped just right, the “beaver tail” would break off. In about 1925, Ithaca switched to their New Improved Double model shotgun with 2 3/4-inch chambers. They used up the rest of their 10-inch barrels and started making them in a 12-inch barrel. They also squared off the grip. Maybe Ithaca had a bunch of double barrels they couldn’t use in regular waterfowl guns. I think this due to the pointing bird dog that remains (faintly) engraved on the receiver. The Ithaca Auto and Burglar was a veritable marvel in its time, a near-perfect blue steel and walnut "magic wand" of self-defense, against strong-arm artists and protection racketeers in the age in which it was introduced, ideal -- because of its light weight, moderate caliber, limited range, and short length -- for women, the elderly, and children who might require it, not only against house burglars, muggers, and the like, but against an abusive parent.
Who was really protected by the Ithaca and Auto Burglar and the Tommy Gun? Shopkeepers, householders, and especially truck drivers whose vehicles were often stopped and stolen (just as Florida pleasure boats are today) to serve as disposable conveyances for illicit alcohol. One store proprietor with a "sawed off" scattergun could discourage three or four goons who'd come to collect. One truck driver with a "Chicago Piano" could run off a dozen highwaymen.
 
I grew up with a grandfather who always swore "A double barrel shotgun is the best home defense weapon in the world". Wish he had lived long enough to see that I agree with him.

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Cool item. Sold for a lot more than I thought it would.

This makes me wonder, because short barreled shotguns were discriminated against because of fear that bad guys could take over the world with them, how come you don't need a stamp then, with a Taurus Judge? That's a pistol that shoots a .410"
 
I believe the taurus and similar have rifled barrels so it's a pistol, not an AOW.
True. Not to argue though, the funny thing is, that is the barrel. The chamber can take a shotgun round. The law refers specifically to the barrel length of a shotgun. Which, pretty much has pretty little to do with the lethality of the weapon. Go figure (sarcasm):sneaky:
 
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The law also specifies that a handgun has a rifled barrel, smoothbore "pistols" are AoWs. It's not about lethality, but concealability. Initially all handguns shorterter than 26" would have been AoWs, but that was changed before the NFA passed.
I changed my original quote for clarification. I should maybe keep this on the low down as the ATF might realize what I just said...:censored: