Kestrel 5700 Elite

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Shooting a 338 Lapua Magnum with 265 grain bullets. Kestrel 5700 Elite says to go up 1.6 for next shot. .125 per click, so that should equate to 13 clicks. However, point of impact did not go up as it should, nowhere near the center. What am I doing wrong?
 
#3
Kestrel is set for MOA, do not like Mildots. Scope it a Vortex Golden Eagle 15x60 first focal plane. Shooting custom loads at present due to high cost of factory rounds. Going to switch to 300 grain with max powder loads, maybe that will make a difference, any suggestions appreciated.
 
#4
What does 1.6 for next shot mean? 1.6moa total? Or add 1.6moa to what you shot last? What distance is this? This could be a lot of things.

Inaccurate solution. Scope isn't tracking correctly. Zero is off. Muzzle velocity is wrong. Ballistic Coefficient is wrong. Ammunition is not consistent manifesting as one or several of the prior suggestions.
 
#5
Kestrel is showing 1.6 U MOA for the next shot, going from 100 to 200 yards. Zeroed at 100 yards. Will change rounds from 265 to 300 grain bullets with 82 grains of powder. Ruger 338 is brand new and barrel has yet to be fully broken in, but the difference in impact points should not be that great, which it is. Using Applied Ballistics for the Kestrel.
 
#6
So, your software is calling for 1.6 moa for 200yds.

What was your actual dope at 200?

Exactly what bullet are you using?

What is your muzzle velocity?

Also, not that it matters in this situation, but golden eagle 15-60x56 is a sfp, not a ffp optic.
 
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CombatVet71 said:
Shooting a 338 Lapua Magnum with 265 grain bullets. Kestrel 5700 Elite says to go up 1.6 for next shot. .125 per click, so that should equate to 13 clicks. However, point of impact did not go up as it should, nowhere near the center. What am I doing wrong?
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Spin the dial the right way...so the top of the turret goes in the direction of the arrow (up), move it to 1.6 moa on the turret. If you’re not somewhere in there, then see Dthomas post.
 
#13
Got a response from Vortex Scope Company Rep and explained what happened, my calculation6 were correct he wrote. So will go back to the range and do as he suggested. Thanks Guys for your help.

click value is .125
 
#15
I'd make sure the scope is tracking correctly . Do a tall target test. Set up a piece of posterboard at 100 yards, draw a vertical line with a black sharpie. mark horizontal hash marks up the line in 1 moa increments. put a long level on the vertical line to level the target. look thru scope set crosshairs on bottom hash mark, with gun in some kind of stable rest. dial scope up 1 moa,2 moa etc see if crosshairs line up/move with each hash mark. Dial in up and down see if it repeats. Now you know if your scope is tracking correctly. can do the same with the windage with a long horizontal line. I had a couple new scopes , one in particular that was way off not even close to moving correctly. You might be surprised what you find. At least you will eliminate that issue. Called the Mfg of the scope , sent it back they replaced it with a better model. It tracked.
 
#16
I have been doing a tall target test for quite awhile, but thanks for suggesting it. Normally dial up 30 minutes of angle and then measure the points of impact from the base line. Have a tall target in the back seat of my truck right now, just need to go hang it and start shooting. I have provided more than enough info for anyone to make a decision on, but taking pictures of the Kestrel is really stupid and is calling me a Liar, so screw that bullshit. I can go it alone from here on out.
 
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Remember this, I am shooting a 338 Lupua Magnum and it has a hell of a side blast from the muzzle break. It is fun to shoot, but have to take it easy on this 67 year old body so number of shots is limited. It is not a kick, but more of a push when I shoot it. Still a ton of fun. considering the 3000 yard target was recently hit with one, glad I own one for obvious reasons.
 
#18
So what was it exactly Vortex said?
What were your calculations? You didn’t mention doing any.
You haven’t given NEARLY enough info.
You didn’t even say if you impacted high or low. Just that it was off. Lol!!!
 
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CombatVet71 said:
Shooting a 338 Lapua Magnum with 265 grain bullets. Kestrel 5700 Elite says to go up 1.6 for next shot. .125 per click, so that should equate to 13 clicks. However, point of impact did not go up as it should, nowhere near the center. What am I doing wrong?
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I will take a crack at this mystery.......LOL
338 LM
265gr bullet
zeroed @ 100yds assumed
velocity?????
Kestrel calling for 1.6 MOA to go from 100 to 200.....your telling it the velocity is around 2525fps based on that info.
If you adjusted the turret 1.6 MOA and it didn't come up enough then the velocity is actually slower than 2525fps or your scope is broke that's the best I can do with info given.......LOL
 
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When I talked to Vortex, they told me that my calculations were correct. That to get a 1.6 Up I would have to turn the dial 13 clicks up. He suggested that I also go back to a hundred yards, dial in the up after re-zeroing at 100. He said I should hit at 1.6 inches about the hundred yard zero mark. It was that simple. Weather has been really lousy, so no chance to go back to the range and shoot. But when I go this time, I will use my TALL target I put together and eventually dial up 30 minutes of angle. The tall target I use almost religiously when sighting in a new rifle, new scope or any of my rifles just to make sure they are tracking like they should. Again, thanks everyone for taking the time to try and help.
 
#21
I may try to post a picture of the tall target after being shot just so everyone can see the results. Going to jump up to the 300 grain bullet this next go around as the powder charge is closer to max allowed for that bullet weight. Also because I have more of them to shoot right now.
 
#22
Changing powder charge/bullet weight isn’t how you do it.

You don’t match up your load to you ballistic calculator. You match your calculator to your load.
 
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CombatVet71 said:
When I talked to Vortex, they told me that my calculations were correct. That to get a 1.6 Up I would have to turn the dial 13 clicks up. He suggested that I also go back to a hundred yards, dial in the up after re-zeroing at 100. He said I should hit at 1.6 inches about the hundred yard zero mark. It was that simple. Weather has been really lousy, so no chance to go back to the range and shoot. But when I go this time, I will use my TALL target I put together and eventually dial up 30 minutes of angle. The tall target I use almost religiously when sighting in a new rifle, new scope or any of my rifles just to make sure they are tracking like they should. Again, thanks everyone for taking the time to try and help.
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Is anyone else :unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure:
 
#24
So Vortex told you that yes, 1.6/.125=12.8?
You STILL haven’t said where you impacted at 200, so you haven’t provided enough information to actually help you.
 
#25
Forget the damned 200 yard target. I am starting back at the beginning. Just for your info, I have been hand loading 308, 6.5 Creedmore, 45 acp, 9mm, for years, I know how to develop a load for each rifle but not so much for pistol , it takes time to find the right combination of bullet weight and powder charge that a particular rifle likes and is most accurate with.. Considering the high cost of developing a 338 load for this rifle, I am taking my time. I normally just make up five rounds and see how the perform at the range. I don't have the money to go and buy factory loads off the shelf. Eighty to a hundred bucks a box is ridiculous in my estimation. This is my last post, so no sense in replying to it guys. Happy Shooting.
 
#26
No one is questioning your loading capabilities of the cheap Chinese knock-off of the Creedmoor known as the creedmore. You came here with the numbers 1.6moa and 13 clicks and 200. Nothing more. Please tell us what it was we were supposed to decipher from that?
 
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