Rifle Scopes Kowa 661 / 663 Dimensions & Zeiss Diascope 65 Case

[Aries64]

Fellow Hiders',

I'm trying to get a good quality, decent fitting SOC (Stay-on-Case) for my angled Zeiss Diascope 65, but I don't like either of the two custom-fitted cases that Zeiss sells. The neoprene <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Zeiss Diacover</span></span> unit doesn't have a Cordura skin so it seems like it would abrade quickly, and the Cordura <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Zeiss Diascope</span></span> jacket isn't padded. I also hate the way they both scream "Zeiss".

The <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Creedmoor Spotting Scope Cover</span></span> price is very tempting and would work, but I really want a case with a better fit. And ideally, I prefer a separate flap for the eyepiece that i won't have to zip and un-zip to view.

I've been comparing the relative sizes, shapes, and control locations of 65mm angled spotters and believe that the Kowa 661 and 663 may be close enough that a case designed to fit those two may work for me. Thats' why I'm looking for specific dimensions that of course, Kowa does not list in their specifications. What ever happened to listing specs?

I'm thinking about a custom SOC <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Ace Optics</span></span> in the UK sells, namely the <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Ace Stay On Case For Kowa 660 Series Scopes</span></span>, but I'd really like to get the dimensions of the Kowa 661 or Kowa 663 for comparision before I order a $120.00 case from the UK that may wind up in the closet because it doesn't fit right. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Ace</span></span> makes an angled <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Stay On Case For Zeiss 85 Diascope</span></span> but not for the Diascope 65 and they do not plan on making one.

Kowa also sells a couple of SOCs' for the 661 and 663 scopes - the <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Kowa C-661 Fitted Case for TSN-661 and TSN-663 Angled Scopes</span></span>, and the <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Kowa Water Resistant Case for TSN-661 & TSN-663</span></span>. I have been told that both cases have neoprene padding with an outer nylon skin to help prevent abrasion, but the C-661 is hand-fitted (which is probably why sell for nearly twice the price of the CNW-9 case and are a special order).

So, if anyone out there has either a Kowa 661 or 663, would you please be kind enough to provide some dimensions for me? I'm looking for:

OAL w/eyepiece attached (please specify which eyepiece you are using)

OAL w/o eyepiece attached (I believe that this is 12.2")

Maximum width of scope at objective end

Maximum width of scope at eyepiece/ocular end

Maximum height of body at "hump" (where the focus adjustment is)

And, if anyone has any experience with any of the cases I've mentioned, any input that you could provide would also be very much appreciated. TIA!

Keith