Re: L.E Wilson trimmer WOW
Your right I did make a presumption, long time loader who asked a loaded question to illicit a response. The response being a very direct answer to the question he asked, knowing full well a second loaded question would be asked. So i took your loaded question and returned a loaded response, sarcastic most definitely, childish you opinion. I on the other hand found it quit funny and entertaining to write.
Finally getting the response i was looking for, That those without the same amount of experience are incapable of making an educated purchase based on a photo (which is worth a thousand words) reading a product description or online review to choose the product they feel will serve them well, then post how much they liked there purchase.
I think my initial post was pretty self-explanatory and everyone else who responded took it for what it was and posted in the same respects.
"And, truth is, you gonna need a lot of years of <span style="font-weight: bold">experience</span>"
"But, a lack of reloading <span style="font-weight: bold">experience</span> usually shows"
"self stated total lack of <span style="font-weight: bold">experience</span>"
" say you have at least some kind of significant <span style="font-weight: bold">experience</span>"
Not to deflate your ego but the real truth is loading isn't all that difficult and the internet has cut that learning curve to being nearly none existent, Anyone willing to read and ask questions has the ability to pick things up quickly and can be extremely effective in a short time and is more then capable of offering there opinion on the products they use and if they like said products and the steps they took to achieve their results.
You clearly equate experience/time with being effective which couldn't be further from the truth.
I'm sure with all your experience you could write a book and i in my short time loading write a page .. Do you think the end results of the reader would be any different?
Believe me i'm not writing this to be a prick there is nothing i enjoy more then a good debate.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fuzzball</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">"If ones goal was to hit the side of a barn then i would highly suggest saving the money and and trim there cases using a rock from the back yard along with a bit of elbow grease and time one could achieve the desired case length they where looking for with out concern on how square the neck was. They could then load said case with powder piss on it, load the bullet and throw the entire cartridge at said barn and effectively hit there target."</span>
Your snarky analogy is childish and silly.
You seem to presume I don't have good case trimmers or have any knowledge of them. Nor do you understand why I don't understand the vast knowledge of the functions, features and uses of other trimmers you've garnered from looking at photos. Wilson's trimmer IS excellant ... but so are others. And, truth is, you gonna need a lot of years of experience with your new Wilson, and others too, before you've cut and reloaded as many cases as I - and a lot of other guys on this board - have.
What I've been trying to understand is how you, with your self stated <span style="text-decoration: underline">total</span> lack of experience with any other case trimmer (except looking at catalog photos of them?), can be so certain your nice Wilson will automatically produce better accuracy than trimmers you really know nothing of; if that's actually your position, you are incorrect. And, if I understand your understandably vague description of how you think other trimmers work, your apprasal of the effects of other trimmer's on mouth squareness AND on targets is also incorrect.
But, now that you have a 'good' case trimmer, I wonder just how much MOA reduction in your groups you expect to see? I will guess it actually won't be measureable and <span style="text-decoration: underline">that</span> comes from experience, not guessing!
IF you want to pass out 'web expert' reloading equipment evaluations you should consider lying and say you have at least some kind of significant experience, then hope your total lack of it won't show. But, a lack of reloading experience usually shows no matter what some web posters may say; that leaves them both liers AND wrong!
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