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Sorry. Wasn't trying to offend. Just seeking (positive?) input. Thanks for postingWhy would you ever want anything in MOA, let alone buying a fixed measurement item for a setting where the measurements needed change based on environmentals.
The CDS system is a perfect example of Leupold still being stuck in the 1990s.
Why would you ever want anything in MOA, let alone buying a fixed measurement item for a setting where the measurements needed change based on environmentals.
The CDS system is a perfect example of Leupold still being stuck in the 1990s.
Just playing around and volume plinking... Steel out to ~300yd Max. Plate sizes vary. Rifle is a Bergara BXR002What are you using this 22 for?
Sorry. Wasn't trying to offend. Just seeking (positive?) input. Thanks for posting
I don’t love the idea of cds for rimfire cause your dope changes so rapidly and precise adjustments are needed. However I think the cds for the average centerfire rifle hunter is exceptional. If you put in the right info then there very accurate. I’ve set up two cds rifles for friends who just want to hunt out to 400yds or so for whitetail and the dials are dead on. For the competitor or guys that are into shooting at a different knowledge level then yes dialing is probably better for them. To say the cds system is stuck in the 90s is a ridiculous statement since for the masses with the right input it is fantastic.
Agree. For hunting out to appx 400 yds here in Pa, all of mine have been dead on on my centerfires. For a farm rimfire, I have almost bought a CDS scope to put on a 22 many times (and most likely would be using CCI-SV like the OP). Minute of a groundhog... Following...I don’t love the idea of cds for rimfire cause your dope changes so rapidly and precise adjustments are needed. However I think the cds for the average centerfire rifle hunter is exceptional. If you put in the right info then there very accurate. I’ve set up two cds rifles for friends who just want to hunt out to 400yds or so for whitetail and the dials are dead on. For the competitor or guys that are into shooting at a different knowledge level then yes dialing is probably better for them. To say the cds system is stuck in the 90s is a ridiculous statement since for the masses with the right input it is fantastic.
As others have already stated, save yourself the heartache. Just get a decent ffp scope with a reticle you like and learn the dope.
If you're just starting in on this sort of thing go straight to a scope in mils. I broke into this around a bunch of nra service rifle shooters and thus I got started in moa and now I'm too deep in scopes to go back. Plus, most people in my group that I shoot with shoot moa. It's two different systems that achieve the same goal but the common tongue is mils.
And a reticle can be used the same if you know your dope, you don't have to dial. But you also know that if you hold a certain amount you will will hit at a given distance and you get to decide what that is, where that hold is on the CDS reticle is fixed and you have to figure out the distance for each hold. Change the ammo, learn new distances for those holds.I don’t love the idea of cds for rimfire cause your dope changes so rapidly and precise adjustments are needed. However I think the cds for the average centerfire rifle hunter is exceptional. If you put in the right info then there very accurate. I’ve set up two cds rifles for friends who just want to hunt out to 400yds or so for whitetail and the dials are dead on. For the competitor or guys that are into shooting at a different knowledge level then yes dialing is probably better for them. To say the cds system is stuck in the 90s is a ridiculous statement since for the masses with the right input it is fantastic.
What he said is correct. He didn’t cuddle first, but the message is still solid. CDS turrets are silly, like eating the same thing forever because you like it today. MOA is like wearing your favourite pants from your elementary school days. Keeps your ass out of the breeze, but there comes a time to grow past the avengers pattern.Sorry. Wasn't trying to offend. Just seeking (positive?) input. Thanks for posting
Leupold will cut a new turret with current data at any time. For a reasonable fee. I've watched guys gather data for 2 loads, 2 turrets needed, one free.The EXACT problem with the system is that most times the unchangeable input that made the dial is no longer accurate.
I didn't want to enter this shit show, lol. I don't care if you shoot moa, or want a CDS turret, your call.Just playing around and volume plinking... Steel out to ~300yd Max. Plate sizes vary. Rifle is a Bergara BXR002
How many misses will you need to decide that a new turret is necessary? How far are you shooting in this forest?Will leupold cut me a new dial while on an elk hunt and deliver it to me in the forest in under 5 minutes?
If no, then CDS is an inferior system.
Will leupold cut me a new dial while on an elk hunt and deliver it to me in the forest in under 5 minutes?
If no, then CDS is an inferior system.
Hey. Yeah, ordered back on Jan-24. Leupold promptly shipped Jan 31. Been sitting on my bench. Had no chance to install and test yet. Will let you know how it goes when I get to the range with it.Op...did u receive your cap and did u have a chance to try it? Anxiously awaiting your results
I am asking sincerely here, you say extreme long range 22LR. Aren't most Leupold CDS systems based off their ZL or ZL2 turrets? Where the scope can have X amount of total travel, yet on ZL, only 14 moa available, or ZL 2 with 38 moa available to you, no matter where in the scheme of things the reticle is zeroed at.For 22 I like the cds for hunting or plinking and dial with exact weather for extreme long range or extreme accuracy.