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Re: Leupold m1 turrets
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Turk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">moa. </div></div>
Are you sure Turk... I believe Leupold M 1's are 1/4" per click...
I dont think Loopy makes true MOA ( 1.047") Turrets... The last time I talked with their tech support
I was told the M 1's are 1/4" adjustments, M 2's were 1/2" adjustments and M 3's were 1" adjustments for the elevation turrets...
You may want to call them tailgate and ask them directly...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Turk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">moa. </div></div>
Are you sure Turk... I believe Leupold M 1's are 1/4" per click...
I dont think Loopy makes true MOA ( 1.047") Turrets... The last time I talked with their tech support
I was told the M 1's are 1/4" adjustments, M 2's were 1/2" adjustments and M 3's were 1" adjustments for the elevation turrets...
You may want to call them tailgate and ask them directly...
Re: Leupold m1 turrets
Specs: http://www.leupold.com/tactical/products/scopes/mark-4-lrt-riflescopes/mark-4-10x40mm-lrt-m1/
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see!
Specs: http://www.leupold.com/tactical/products/scopes/mark-4-lrt-riflescopes/mark-4-10x40mm-lrt-m1/
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see!
Re: Leupold m1 turrets
I wouldn't believe anything you read or hear, you need to check your particular scope out personally to verify the results.
My particular 6.5-20X50 LR M1 has 1/4 moa knobs that are actually 1/4" as verified by my personal testing on the range.
I wouldn't believe anything you read or hear, you need to check your particular scope out personally to verify the results.
My particular 6.5-20X50 LR M1 has 1/4 moa knobs that are actually 1/4" as verified by my personal testing on the range.
Re: Leupold m1 turrets
That has been my findings as well Tburkes... Thats why I called them to verify...
I have 5 MK 4's with M1's and all of them are 1/4" adjustments and not true MOA...
That has been my findings as well Tburkes... Thats why I called them to verify...
I have 5 MK 4's with M1's and all of them are 1/4" adjustments and not true MOA...
Re: Leupold m1 turrets
My older 16XMK4 is moa. I haven't tested it other than I know that with a IPHY USO it needed 11.25 at 500yds, and with the 16xMK4 it uses 10.75.
I think the older fixed MK4's and Ultra's were moa, but the variable line and newer fixed are IPHY.
My older 16XMK4 is moa. I haven't tested it other than I know that with a IPHY USO it needed 11.25 at 500yds, and with the 16xMK4 it uses 10.75.
I think the older fixed MK4's and Ultra's were moa, but the variable line and newer fixed are IPHY.
Re: Leupold m1 turrets
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elkhuntinguide</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That has been my findings as well Tburkes... Thats why I called them to verify...
I have 5 MK 4's with M1's and all of them are 1/4" adjustments and not true MOA... </div></div>
Which procedure are you using to evaluate?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elkhuntinguide</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That has been my findings as well Tburkes... Thats why I called them to verify...
I have 5 MK 4's with M1's and all of them are 1/4" adjustments and not true MOA... </div></div>
Which procedure are you using to evaluate?
Re: Leupold m1 turrets
I have two 6.5-20X50M1s. The clicks are 1/4 inch at 100 yards.
The 3.5-10X40M3 I owned had true MOA clicks - 1.047 inches at 100 yards.
There is no need, though, to call Leupold, to ask others, or to speculate.
Mr. Burkes said, <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...you need to check your particular scope out personally to verify the results.</div></div>
Bingo! We have a winner!
And if you don't know how, here's how: Optically Checking Rifle Scopes. You don't even need bullets.
I have two 6.5-20X50M1s. The clicks are 1/4 inch at 100 yards.
The 3.5-10X40M3 I owned had true MOA clicks - 1.047 inches at 100 yards.
There is no need, though, to call Leupold, to ask others, or to speculate.
Mr. Burkes said, <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...you need to check your particular scope out personally to verify the results.</div></div>
Bingo! We have a winner!
And if you don't know how, here's how: Optically Checking Rifle Scopes. You don't even need bullets.
Re: Leupold m1 turrets
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Turk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elkhuntinguide</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That has been my findings as well Tburkes... Thats why I called them to verify...
I have 5 MK 4's with M1's and all of them are 1/4" adjustments and not true MOA... </div></div>
Which procedure are you using to evaluate? </div></div>
Turk... I use a method very simular to what Lindy has linked... I use a Sheetrock
T-square for measuring... I strap the rifle in a lead sled and go from there...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Turk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elkhuntinguide</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That has been my findings as well Tburkes... Thats why I called them to verify...
I have 5 MK 4's with M1's and all of them are 1/4" adjustments and not true MOA... </div></div>
Which procedure are you using to evaluate? </div></div>
Turk... I use a method very simular to what Lindy has linked... I use a Sheetrock
T-square for measuring... I strap the rifle in a lead sled and go from there...
most users might not be able to measure the difference easily at 100 yards unless you have an absolutely solid bench mount (the kind that prevent your rifle from moving) and adjust quite a few clicks to measure the result. since 1 MOA is 1.047 of an inch at 100 yards, if you give it 40 clicks (at 1/4 adjustments) and come out 10.47 inches instead of 10 inches on a grid, you're in MOA and not inches.
you don't really need to shoot, but you need a grid to look at and a SUPER solid bench mount.
Just like Tburkes said... Trust and verify!
QUOTED:
*On riflescopes with 1⁄4-MOA adjustments, each click equals .261 inch at 100 yards. There’s another measure known as Shooter’s MOA (SMOA)—rounding down MOA’s true measure of 1.047 inches at 100 yards to a much-simpler-to-calculate with 1 inch at 100 yards. Most scopes have true 1⁄4-MOA click adjustments, but some have 1⁄4-SMOA click adjustments. Does it matter? The difference in an MOA and a SMOA is .047 inch at 100 yards or slightly less than 1⁄2 inch at 1,000 yards so the answer is: Precisely yes, practically no.*
That is a very fine variation for anyone to be able to shoot and RELIABLY figure out on their own I believe.
*On riflescopes with 1⁄4-MOA adjustments, each click equals .261 inch at 100 yards. There’s another measure known as Shooter’s MOA (SMOA)—rounding down MOA’s true measure of 1.047 inches at 100 yards to a much-simpler-to-calculate with 1 inch at 100 yards. Most scopes have true 1⁄4-MOA click adjustments, but some have 1⁄4-SMOA click adjustments. Does it matter? The difference in an MOA and a SMOA is .047 inch at 100 yards or slightly less than 1⁄2 inch at 1,000 yards so the answer is: Precisely yes, practically no.*
That is a very fine variation for anyone to be able to shoot and RELIABLY figure out on their own I believe.
Yes it does matter. .047 x say 30 min is the 1.41 at 1000. Big deal yes if we are going to talk about moa or shooter moa. Everyone should do a tall target test of there optics anyway and verify there adjustment.
If you're only dialing 1 "moa", then I agree with you. But the problem comes when you're shooting long range. Dial in 40 "moa" that's actually 40 IPHY, and you'll be off by ~2 MOA from what you expect.
It's easy to check, too. Set out a tall target at exactly 100 yards, with a POA near the bottom. Shoot a group. Dial up 30 "moa" or so and shoot another group. If your groups are 30" apart, you've got IPHY. If they're 31.4" apart, you've got true MOA.
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