I am in the agreement that Leupold is priced a bit to high, and that there are other scope makers that make equal or even better glass for the same money. One thing i really like about Leupold is that when you look through one you can see from edge to edge. there are not black areas around the outside of the optic. what i mean is that, when i look into my Nikon there is a fairly large black ring on the outside edge of the optic. with leupold it looks like you see more of what your looking at. I hope that makes since. I am not know for my grammar or explanations. I need a good hunting scope for my 6br coyote rifle and i would like to go with leupold but i dont want to pay the money for one. I just really like the full view that leupold allows me to see. the black ring on my monarchs seem like wasted space. I know i am crazy, but does anyone else agree with what i am saying? I guess my questions is, is there any other scope maker on the market that shares the similarities as leupold? I want to spend around around 350-400 bucks for my scope and i really dont know what to buy. I have a monarch ucc on the rifle now, and it is a great scope, but i cant get the scope back far enough to get a good sight picture. Ring height and check weld are the problem. I am going to have to sell this scope and get something else. I looked at Leupold vx-II in a 4-12 but they are darn near 500 bucks. to much for a yote scope. any ideas?? Thanks fellas as always!!! Lee