Likely the Earliest Marine Sniper Rifle that still exists, from 1909

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I thought you guys might like this one. This rifle has a lot of historical value to the Marine Sniper program. This is likely the earliest Marine Sniper rifle that still exists.

If you are not aware, the first "official" US sniper rifle was the M1908 Warner Swasey. It was adopted in 1908 by Army Ordnance and was made by Springfield Armory starting later that year. The first production run of rifles, past a couple test rifles, were in the 352xxx and 353xxx serial range.

Basically, the whole premise of the Marine Sniper program started when the Marines decided to buy a handful of these first Army sniper rifles in 1909. This is the first time the Marines had tested an "official Sniper rifle" and from this ground work, it lead to the official Sniper program in 1917.

A neat point about this rifle. This is likely not only the earliest Marine Sniper rifle known, but it's also from the very first block of official Army sniper rifles produced. So it really served as the beginning of the sniper program for both branches.

Originally, the mounts for the Warner Swasey sights were staked on the inside of the receiver by Springfield Armory. Once the Warner Swasey sights became outdated, it was common in the era to remove the mounts and make the Snipers into a standard service rifle. Reading Ordnance docs of the time, they stated the staked screws were hard to remove and it was easier to just cut the mount off the receiver and leave the staked screw heads in place.

Even though I have never found the serial list of the 1909 shipment to the Marines, everything I have ever found leads me to firmly believe this was one of them. They would have for sure been in this serial range. I did find this rifle's serial number on a Marine Document from 1929 but it does not detail on the document if the serial is a SA or RIA number. But the odds are highly in favor that it is my rifle after the mount had been removed and it became a standard service rifle.

Looking at the rifle it has likely been rebuilt several times by the Marines, with the last time during WWII. It is a pretty stereotypical early WWII rebuild with a 1942 Sedgley USMC barrel.

Even though all that still exists of the original 1909 Sniper rifle, is the receiver, it's pretty likely the entire Marine Sniper program started here.

So far, this is the only known Marine Model of 1908 Warner Swasey that exists. There is one in the private collection of the Marine museum, but the receiver isn't original so I imagine it was put together for a display.

I feel very honored to be the caretaker of this rifle, and the legacy it left behind. I just wish this one could talk.

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Interesting piece of history. This caused me to grab Joe Poyer's book off the shelf and review the serial number, etc.

I am guessing the gas vent hole on the left forward part of the receiver was drilled when the newer barrel was installed.

I currently own two 1903 Springfields, one being a 1903A4 replica and the other a 1903A1. They are certainly interesting rifles and fun to shoot. I've won a few local matches with the 1903A1.
 
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I am guessing the gas vent hole on the left forward part of the receiver was drilled when the newer barrel was installed.

Yes sir. The Marines started to drill the additional gas escape hole on all receivers they re-barreled after the fall of 1938. It was a safety precaution because of the terrible ammo of the day.
 
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The books really are sort of out of date on the Warner Swaseys. There is a Gentleman named Promo who posted some of his research on the Warner Swaseys and I'll be honest this explains the serial ranges much better than any book. I've seen the exact same rifle serial number and scope ranges in the official Ordnance docs.

  • Both the M1908 and M1913 scope variant (not counting in the Canadian ones) shared the same serial range. This means that up to serial 2000 the scopes are of the M1908 variant, and from 2000 to about 8000 are M1913 variants. The overall production of the M1908 therefore would be around 2000 pieces and another 6000 pieces of the M1913 scope
  • M1908 scopes serial 1 to 1000 are for Springfield M1903 rifles in the 352.XXX to 353.XXX serial range
  • M1908 scopes serial 1001 to 1500 are for Springfield M1903 rifles in the 409.XXX serial range
  • M1908 scopes serial 1501 to 2000 are for Benet-Mercie Machine Guns
  • The very early M1913 scopes (so far until scope serial 2263) have protruding screw heads, just like the Canadian M1913 scope variant, and seem to be for Springfield M1903 rifles with serials less than 600.000, some maybe even M1908 replacements
  • There is a large serial block of Springfield M1903 rifles in the 625.XXX and 632.XXX serial range which uses M1913 scopes with serials up until (roughly) 2800.
  • M1913 scopes with serials between 4000 and 6700 seem to almost all have"FOR RIFLE NO. XXX.XXX" inside the dovetail, meaning they were never issued.
  • The second large serial range for Springfield M1903 W&S sniper rifles is the 929.XXX to 937.XXX range. The documented M1913 scopes for this range are all from serial 68XX to 76XX
 
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I have only ever seen one Warner Swasey in either the M1908 or M1913 variation (in person), that was real and wasn't a restoration. They are extremely rare as most had their mounts removed or were destroyed by the early 1930's.

This is one from the last block made in July 1918. It is in the 932xxx serial range. I think the only reason this one survived is it went to a National Guard unit and probably someone took it home at some point. Or Ordnance did sell some in the early 1920's , so that is a possibility.

At one time this one did have a Maxim Silencer on it. There are distinct marks on the barrel where one had been.

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