In what way does loading the bipod aid in long range shooting? We hit the subject in sniper school but that just inteled on do it rather than why. Loading it vs. holding it lightly on the shoulder.
Loading the bipod?
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Re: Loading the bipod?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cwatson308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well sometimes yes and others no. </div></div>
The rifle is recoiling the same amount with each shot. How you are managing that recoil is the difference. The change would indicate an inconsistent back pressure against the rifle.
Try to find that happy medium and focus on where that is. So often when it happens your not really paying attention to that particular aspect and it gets overlooked until you fire the shot and realize that you had the right amount but didn't pay attention to how much it was.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cwatson308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well sometimes yes and others no. </div></div>
The rifle is recoiling the same amount with each shot. How you are managing that recoil is the difference. The change would indicate an inconsistent back pressure against the rifle.
Try to find that happy medium and focus on where that is. So often when it happens your not really paying attention to that particular aspect and it gets overlooked until you fire the shot and realize that you had the right amount but didn't pay attention to how much it was.
Re: Loading the bipod?
Well ive watched those high speed videos on youtube of a bullet leaving a barrel. the bullet leaves the barrel well before any recoil is present. same with a semi auto.
Well ive watched those high speed videos on youtube of a bullet leaving a barrel. the bullet leaves the barrel well before any recoil is present. same with a semi auto.
Re: Loading the bipod?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cwatson308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can you see the hole appear in the target at 100 yards ? </div></div>Well sometimes yes and others no. </div></div>
In this statement, are you saying sometimes you hit the target at 100yrds and sometimes you don't?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cwatson308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well ive watched those high speed videos on youtube of a bullet leaving a barrel. the bullet leaves the barrel well before any recoil is present. same with a semi auto. </div></div>
Yes, but weather or not you see the bullet impact depends on how you manage the recoil.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cwatson308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can you see the hole appear in the target at 100 yards ? </div></div>Well sometimes yes and others no. </div></div>
In this statement, are you saying sometimes you hit the target at 100yrds and sometimes you don't?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cwatson308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well ive watched those high speed videos on youtube of a bullet leaving a barrel. the bullet leaves the barrel well before any recoil is present. same with a semi auto. </div></div>
Yes, but weather or not you see the bullet impact depends on how you manage the recoil.
Re: Loading the bipod?
We made new pointy feet for our bipods on our rifles and have been experimenting shooting with different loading pressure off a wooden bench. You can put more pressure on them than is comfortable for your shoulder and they won't move so we've been trying different pressures to see how it affect impacts at farther targets. We normally put just enough pressure to see the Harris legs slightly lean but not wedging them hard against their stops. At closer targets the change in impact is barely noticeable to no change at all. But the farther out you shoot it becomes more apparent.
Even though those videos show no movement of the barrel before the bullet is exiting it's still moving even if it's only thousandths or tens of thousandths. When we really put a lot of forward pressure against the bipod the round would hit low enough at farther distances it would miss one of our targets. We didn't find it as critical if you varied it slightly from lightly touching to enough you felt your shoulder against the stock.
I don't think it's as important as how much pressure you exert against the bipod but doing it the same every time. The larger calibers move more so more pressure is needed to control the gun if for no other reason than to keep it from causing blood to run into your eye from the scope saying Hi to your eyebrow.
When we were still using the rubber feet on the Harris you could only apply pressure till it started to slide on our benches. We did discover that if you dropped the feet into a gap in the boards it let you lean more into it which helped with seeing your hits much better. Prone shooters usually can get a lot more bipod loading due to it digging into the soil or being wedged against a strap on their shooting mat.
Paying attention to detail and doing everything the same from shot to shot is what tightens groups up. I've seen some really good shooters with unorthodox shooting positions do very well but they have spent a lot of time perfecting what works for them which drives some precision rifle instructors crazy since it just isn't the way it should be done by most training standards.
Good luck, you need to experiment and pay close attention to every detail of how you are setting up for your shot. You'll start to feel differences and know when something isn't right.
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We made new pointy feet for our bipods on our rifles and have been experimenting shooting with different loading pressure off a wooden bench. You can put more pressure on them than is comfortable for your shoulder and they won't move so we've been trying different pressures to see how it affect impacts at farther targets. We normally put just enough pressure to see the Harris legs slightly lean but not wedging them hard against their stops. At closer targets the change in impact is barely noticeable to no change at all. But the farther out you shoot it becomes more apparent.
Even though those videos show no movement of the barrel before the bullet is exiting it's still moving even if it's only thousandths or tens of thousandths. When we really put a lot of forward pressure against the bipod the round would hit low enough at farther distances it would miss one of our targets. We didn't find it as critical if you varied it slightly from lightly touching to enough you felt your shoulder against the stock.
I don't think it's as important as how much pressure you exert against the bipod but doing it the same every time. The larger calibers move more so more pressure is needed to control the gun if for no other reason than to keep it from causing blood to run into your eye from the scope saying Hi to your eyebrow.
When we were still using the rubber feet on the Harris you could only apply pressure till it started to slide on our benches. We did discover that if you dropped the feet into a gap in the boards it let you lean more into it which helped with seeing your hits much better. Prone shooters usually can get a lot more bipod loading due to it digging into the soil or being wedged against a strap on their shooting mat.
Paying attention to detail and doing everything the same from shot to shot is what tightens groups up. I've seen some really good shooters with unorthodox shooting positions do very well but they have spent a lot of time perfecting what works for them which drives some precision rifle instructors crazy since it just isn't the way it should be done by most training standards.
Good luck, you need to experiment and pay close attention to every detail of how you are setting up for your shot. You'll start to feel differences and know when something isn't right.
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Re: Loading the bipod?
Negitive. I can pull same hole groups as long as my equipment allows. What I ment by that is sometimes I can see the bullet hit the target and others I do not.
Negitive. I can pull same hole groups as long as my equipment allows. What I ment by that is sometimes I can see the bullet hit the target and others I do not.
Re: Loading the bipod?
Shoot a bunch of different groups with different bipod loading, you'll most likely see a difference.
Shoot a bunch of different groups with different bipod loading, you'll most likely see a difference.
