Suppressors Looking For .300BLK Barrel Advice

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StrykerSDM

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I'm building a .300BLK and I have the lower build down how I want it but for the upper I'm kind of torn. I'll be using an AAC SDN6 for subs and supers, and with no suppressor probably just the supers. I really have no interest in firing subs without the suppressor.

So AAC makes a complete upper, BCG and all, that has their 16" bbl. and their Blackout mount, which is great. It also has the KAC rail, I don't have a URX but I have others and I like their stuff, so the whole upper in general is kind of built to my liking.

The other option is to get a 14.5" Noveske .300BLK barrel and blind pin a Blackout mount that I already have, and just keep my eyes peeled for a KAC M4 FF rail. They pop up for good prices around here from time to time. Then I'd use a matched Noveske receiver set, the JP Ent. carrier I like, and a good quality bolt, JP small parts, all assembled properly by yours truly. This way I get exactly what I want with the parts I like.

I suppose I can build one exactly how I want it for about the price I can buy the other built to my satisfaction by the designers of the round, rifle, and suppressor being used; both are about $1100 uppers all said and done, and both are good builds. See the dilemma? So what I need to know is how each of these barrels stack up? Mostly as far as reliability goes. I would imagine both to be fairly accurate given their price and pedigree.

So if anyone is suppressing either of these barrels using an SDN6, how is it going for you? Reliability? Other problems or recommendations?

I'm great with AR's and M4's in general, but the .300BLK is new to me and I understand it is very finicky. So some experienced advice here would be appreciated so I can make the right decision.

Oh, and I'll be loading my own so I should be able to tailor perfect loads for subs and supers that I tend to use most.

Thanks in advance!
 
#2
Re: Looking For .300BLK Barrel Advice

I have a Noveske 16" black out barrel that is very accurate. No problems with Southwest ammo subs, UMC or Gunn supersonic. Suppressed or not Suppressed. (762-SDN-6) Also I picked up 20fps with the suppressor.

I know its not a 14.5" but it is info.

I also have an AAC 9" upper that I have had the same results with.
 
#4
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I built mine with a wilson combat barrel and it cycles like a champ with subs or supers suppressed and unsuppressed. Shooting Atlanta Arms pink tips i was real impressed with the accuracy also.

The wilson combat is less expensive than the noveske and I don't see how it could perform much better.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just a little word, the AAC upper wears a Noveske barrel. </div></div>

Really? No shit? Where'd you find that? Not that I dispute you or anything, it just makes my life a lot easier if they do. I'm gonna look into that and if those are indeed the ones that will do what I want I may go that route.

If AAC uses Noveske barrels, I bet the Noveske ones may be better as they look like they are from different stock. Could just be me though, could just be the looks. They are also 14.5" and that is a plus for me considering the suppressor, that and I get to use the other parts I like in the build.

I'll look into Wilson too, thanks for the heads up. At the moment, I'm trying to find someone with first hand experience using these barrels and an SDN6 suppressor so as to determine how reliable it functions.

Thanks, and if anyone has anything to chime in, experience with them with suppressors, whatever, that would be great. I'm an old hat with the AR and M4, but the finicky .300BLK and wildcat subs with a suppressor and AR platform, that is kind of new to me, so yeah, any advice would be appreciated.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cookie The Swede</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a Noveske 16" black out barrel that is very accurate. No problems with Southwest ammo subs, UMC or Gunn supersonic. Suppressed or not Suppressed. (762-SDN-6) Also I picked up 20fps with the suppressor.

I know its not a 14.5" but it is info.

I also have an AAC 9" upper that I have had the same results with.
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Thanks a lot, that is exactly the kind of info I'm looking for. So you say your AAC 16" upper does fine with subs and no suppressor? That is great, I didn't expect that but it is nice nonetheless. But if Noveske does in fact make AAC's barrels, then it may be in my best interest to get the barrel length I want (even if subs don't work without the suppressor on that length). And yeah, I kind of expected decently fine accuracy with any of those barrels at that price point.
 
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Hey, I talked to Noveske's tech guy and he indeed said they made barrels for AAC. It seemed they could also be made elsewhere but that wasn't discussed. He said they made AAC's barrels such that they WOULD work with subs and no suppressor, BUT that they overgassed with supers.

So they said they got feeback from their buyers that having it reliable with subs and suppressor, supers with or without, and forget about the subs and no suppressor was best. So the Noveske barrels are made to function that way. They may or may not work with subs and no suppressor once broken in. But who cares? I mean really? I'd rather have less gas in the face than have it function with subs and no suppressor.

I suppose using an adjustable gas block along with a special charging handle fixes it all if you want to mess with it. I have one on my Grendel, an adj. gas block I mean, but I like to set it where my favorite load is and tune it best that way and just deal with the rest. I got it just to tune it, so far, to one round I guess you could say. So having a non-adj., considering it will be underneath a rifle length tube as this .300BLK will, just makes more sense and is easier to use. Provided it is as reliable as they say.

So with that in mind now, and that conversation with Noveske's guy, and the advice I got on here, I figured out what way I want to go on this build and the case is closed I guess.

Now I need to figure out what scope that was that had half the reticle for supers and half for subs and I think it was a decent one for this round... But I could be wrong. I thought I saw it in an NRA rag. I'll check.

Thanks!
 
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Re: Looking For .300BLK Barrel Advice

I have several Delta Company Arms barrels that I like a lot. Aaron and David are great folks. They do good work. Aaron is a wounded vet who is in and out of the VA hospital for treatment and we haven't spoke in several months, but I talked to David this week and they are still making a ton of .300Blk barrels.

If you are looking .300Blk bolt gun, they make a really nice Tikka T3.
 
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I did a quick video of my 16" wilson combat barrell with supers and subs, also with and without the innovative arms 7.62 suppressor to show the sound difference.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StrykerSDM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey, I talked to Noveske's tech guy and he indeed said they made barrels for AAC. It seemed they could also be made elsewhere but that wasn't discussed. He said they made AAC's barrels such that they WOULD work with subs and no suppressor, BUT that they overgassed with supers.

So they said they got feeback from their buyers that having it reliable with subs and suppressor, supers with or without, and forget about the subs and no suppressor was best. So the Noveske barrels are made to function that way. They may or may not work with subs and no suppressor once broken in. But who cares? I mean really? I'd rather have less gas in the face than have it function with subs and no suppressor.

I suppose using an adjustable gas block along with a special charging handle fixes it all if you want to mess with it. I have one on my Grendel, an adj. gas block I mean, but I like to set it where my favorite load is and tune it best that way and just deal with the rest. I got it just to tune it, so far, to one round I guess you could say. So having a non-adj., considering it will be underneath a rifle length tube as this .300BLK will, just makes more sense and is easier to use. Provided it is as reliable as they say.

So with that in mind now, and that conversation with Noveske's guy, and the advice I got on here, I figured out what way I want to go on this build and the case is closed I guess.

Now I need to figure out what scope that was that had half the reticle for supers and half for subs and I think it was a decent one for this round... But I could be wrong. I thought I saw it in an NRA rag. I'll check.

Thanks! </div></div>

Might be thinking of the Leupold Mk4 1.5-5 with the 300blk reticle..
Supposed to run around $1050
http://http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=128&t=63188&start=175
 
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Re: Looking For .300BLK Barrel Advice

I've got the 9" upper from AAC and the 762sd n6 runs it just fine with subs. But being a SBR I can't run supersonic thru the can. But I mostly shoot subs anyways for major fun factor.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've got the 9" upper from AAC and the 762sd n6 runs it just fine with subs. But being a SBR I can't run supersonic thru the can. But I mostly shoot subs anyways for major fun factor. </div></div>

How come you can't run supers on the SBR with a can?
 
#16
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Yeah, I think that is the scope. The 1.5-5x M2, but it looks like they go for more like $1300+! Probably not going that high on optics for the .300BLK. May just go with an EoTech or something for now, I'll probably only be using it to 200m for the most part anyway. May think about it later though, who knows, just have other projects in que.

Thanks for the heads up on those Wilson barrels, I'll take a look at those too, see what folks say about them and how reliable they are.
 
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Re: Looking For .300BLK Barrel Advice

Well, I looked at the Wilson barrels and they are nearly the same as the Noveske except .2" longer and they use a different button. Not hardly worth the extra $200 for the Noveske... For me anyway, like I say, I'll be using it at relatively short ranges.

Thanks for all the replies, really helped me out.
 
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