Looks like another good shoot...riots to follow...

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BREAKING: Grand Rapids, MI Police Release Video Of Fatal Shooting…Black Male Suspect Patrick Lyoya Appears To Be Resisting Arrest…Officer Can Be Heard Yelling: “Let go of the taser!” [VIDEO] | The Gateway Pundit | by Patty McMurray

GRAND RAPIDS, MI – Protesters are gathering in the streets in Grand Rapids, Michigan following the release of video footage showing the fatal shooting of a Black man by a police officer on April 4.

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Whatever happened to if you try to take an officers weapons you get dead? Now they're trying to say he posed no threat, and that the officer killed him execution style. When reality isn't common anymore, and you can have your own reality in the face of overwhelming evidence, there is going to be war, period. Reality (the single, shared reality) wins every time.

 

[Slash0311]

Careful. I think another thread got deleted yesterday on this one after three pages. I had already ignored 1/2 of those posting but it was the usual shit.

 

[kmckinnon]

Prepare for "Peaceful Protests"!

 

[nagantguy]

Little boy blue did his job; without question without hesitation- he stopped and confronted chased fought with and killed the 3rd world vibrant and now just as quick as that video his masters will throw him under the bus. What can we learn from little boy blue?

 

[candyx]

The law should be changed if you watch that video. When someone is verbally not compliant the taser should be deployed from a safe distance. This protects the Officers and the person who has become a combatant . This would prevent escalation to deadly force. Or forgo the taser altogether and have a dog in the car if its a single Officer on patrol , let the dog get the perp into submission. Dog bites are easier to treat then those little darts.........

 

[Pok]

Used to be a time when a cop could use a club to defend himself if he was within contact distance.

Whatever training is or should be... what’s the guy supposed to do when a perp he’s arresting is grabbing his weapons.

Have to make people understand that when the man is barking orders at you that they carry the weight of the law and violence will go as far as it has to to make you comply.

The complaint dept is in the court room afterward

 

[JJMoody]

Escalation is “interesting” to watch. Somewhere around 2am on Tuesday, I got to watch an “escalating” situation involving a van that hit a telephone pole and damn near knocked over the brick wall my RV is backed up to. Guys in the van wouldn’t come out, so eventually the popos used (what I assume was) tear gas to assist in their exit. There were four rifles at the low-ready when I peeked over the wall…. Made sure everyone (all the old farts) got the hell away after that.

 

[BLEE]

I thought all LEO are trained, as I was, to use whatever force necessary, to gain control of the situation, should a suspect attempt, or succeed in taking the LEO's service weapon. What kind of idiocy would expect otherwise? This question is rhetorical, of course.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Democrat City?

 

[acudaowner]

well good for them .

 

[GreenGO Juan]

So this darwin award winner turns a simple traffic stop into being dead.

Idiot!

 

[D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷]

they carry the weight of the law and violence will go as far as it has to to make you comply.

The complaint dept is in the court room afterward

Pretty sure the scoreboard in the complaint dept isn’t on the LEO’s side.

Money of the tax slaves will be lost. Businesses will be burned.

And for what? Because some dumb fuck couldn’t sit down and another dumb fuck couldn’t properly do anything to stop the first dumb fuck.

Tax slaves will lose ultimately

 

[308pirate]

Democrat City?

Imagine that

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African immigrants are usually some of the most law abiding and hardworking immigrants there are. I have a handful of African clients, and I always enjoy working for them. This guy looks high and acts spaced out. Clearly he physically outmatches the officer.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Imagine that

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coincidence?
map out all the sensationalized police killing and you’ll notice they all happen in dark Blue Democrat cess pools almost as much as mass shootings.

 

[308pirate]

African immigrants are usually some of the most law abiding and hardworking immigrants there are. I have a handful of African clients, and I always enjoy working for them. This guy looks high and acts spaced out. Clearly he physically outmatches the officer.

If you're going to get fucked no matter what after using force, may as well go all the way and carry an unauthorized sap and really get compliance.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

African immigrants are usually some of the most law abiding and hardworking immigrants there are. I have a handful of African clients, and I always enjoy working for them. This guy looks high and acts spaced out. Clearly he physically outmatches the officer.

There is a huge difference between real African-Americans or any non Amercian person of color really and American Black culture. Folks born and raised here are indoctrinated and under a spell. Its social, cultural, psycological, and economic engineered slavery perpetrated by the Establishment.

 

[MtnCreek]

Now the US and western europe are the dumpsters for all the excess trash the world has to offer. He should have kept his ass in the congo.

 

[candyx]

What do you say to the medic when he arrives ...... Doc tag him and bag him.......

 

[Dunraven]

There is a huge difference between real African-Americans or any non Amercian person of color really and American Black culture. Folks born and raised here are indoctrinated and under a spell. Its social, cultural, psycological, and economic engineered slavery perpetrated by the Establishment.

My new-favorite African-American? Elon Musk

 

[TexPatriot]

Prepare for "Peaceful Protests"!

Na, Trumps out of office, nothing to protest.

 

[BKSSNIPER]

As said above the officer was clearly outmatched and half assed his attempts to take the guy in custody.

Most departments moved the taser from where it should be, just after verbal commands and before hands on to where it is now, only after hands on tactics have failed.

I didn’t see a baton on his belt, even if he had one he probably would have been prohibited from using it by a police.

Just looking at their page it appears they are “accredited by CALEA or one of the other wastes of time and if so their policies probably neuter them.

All dude had to do was cooperate.

 

[TurboTrout]

taser

Used against mainstreet = non lethal
Used against the state = lethal, requiring point blank shot to back of head CCP style.

All that over a a dumb license plate victimless crime, and running his plate for what reason, but gotta get it on, see when idiots collide, if I was on the jury manslaughter

 

[candyx]

Hey he took a shot and decided to fight a guy with a gun and he lost , hats off to him for competing . What's pitiful is the crying of wanting a participation trophy afterwards. Before he immigrated he should of learned our laws......

 

[TurboTrout]

Hey he took a shot and decided to fight a guy with a gun and he lost , hats off to him for competing . What's pitiful is the crying of wanting a participation trophy afterwards. Before he immigrated he should of learned our laws......

Imagine if citizens had the same low standard for deadly force as PD. If I picked a fight over my boss not getting a $100 sale, ended up straddling the person with their face in the dirt, put my gun to the back of his head and executed him, on fucking camera, I’d be just hoping to not get the needle. But hey, getting a 3 week paid vacation is almost as bad

 

[riflegreen297]

GRPD, like many LEAs now use that CCP technology called plate scanners. Plate scanners automatically “run your plate” to see if anything pops up that has been placed in the system against that plate. So in this case it probably popped that plate was marked as stolen.

 

[clcustom1911]

There is a huge difference between real African-Americans or any non Amercian person of color really and American Black culture. Folks born and raised here are indoctrinated and under a spell. Its social, cultural, psycological, and economic engineered slavery perpetrated by the Establishment.

Cultural Marxism is the spell.

 

[Ric O'shay]

I wonder why the cop did not insist he gets back in the car. Obey that command, it may allow time for back up and he likely lives. Once he shut the door the shitstorm began.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Cultural Marxism is the spell.

youre not far off, If you take Yuri Besmenov discussion of ideological subversion and apply it to Black Americans as a group starting in maybe the 60s-80s, I think it would explain why we are where we are.

 

[MtnCreek]

Used to be that it was mostly the best & brightest that immigrated from africa. Now even the upstream shitters can get here.

 

[Maggot]

Imagine if citizens had the same low standard for deadly force as PD. If I picked a fight over my boss not getting a $100 sale, ended up straddling the person with their face in the dirt, put my gun to the back of his head and executed him, on fucking camera, I’d be just hoping to not get the needle. But hey, getting a 3 week paid vacation is almost as bad

From what Ive read of and seen videos of, today you might be better off getting the needle. No more 1=2 man cells, its dormitory style. I think the needle might be quicker.

 

[NoDopes]

Imagine if citizens had the same low standard for deadly force as PD. If I picked a fight over my boss not getting a $100 sale, ended up straddling the person with their face in the dirt, put my gun to the back of his head and executed him, on fucking camera, I’d be just hoping to not get the needle. But hey, getting a 3 week paid vacation is almost as bad

Shit, if somebody starts fighting me in Texas you can shoot them. Go ask Kyle.

You have to have some sort of law and order or we end up like mad max killer hordes, CA, Chicago or New York. Nobody wants that.
He had illegal plates, probably stolen. You don't just let that shit roll because the criminal doesn't feel like talking today.

 

[Maser]

I personally feel the resisting arrest charge should just go away all together because it's stupid. No one likes being cuffed unless that's your fetish and when your arm is pulled your automatic response is to pull back. That's not resisting, that's an involuntary act! Also, there is NO instance where I can think of where resisting arrest BY ITSELF should warrant a death sentence. Now if you're pulling a Michael Brown and trying to use the cop's gun against him, then all bets are off. Stop the threat by any means.

 

[TurboTrout]

Shit, if somebody starts fighting me in Texas you can shoot them. Go ask Kyle.

You have to have some sort of law and order or we end up like mad max killer hordes, CA, Chicago or New York. Nobody wants that.
He had illegal plates, probably stolen. You don't just let that shit roll because the criminal doesn't feel like talking today.

And does that also work if you are the one who starts the altercation?

 

[Big Timber]

I just got off the phone with Joe Biden. He thought maybe the perp should have just got capped in the knee.

 

[vinniedelpino]

I personally feel the resisting arrest charge should just go away all together because it's stupid. No one likes being cuffed unless that's your fetish and when your arm is pulled your automatic response is to pull back. That's not resisting, that's an involuntary act! Also, there is NO instance where I can think of where resisting arrest BY ITSELF should warrant a death sentence. Now if you're pulling a Michael Brown and trying to use the cop's gun against him, then all bets are off. Stop the threat by any means.

That’s the craziest shit I’ve ever heard.

Why encourage criminals to run when being apprehended? That’s a recipe for increased escalation.

Guy runs and gets tackled, takes a swing or tries to grab an officers gun because he’s now a victim of police brutality since he was tackled and scraped his knee.

Guy gets shot.

City (taxpayers) pay his family $40m for their pain and suffering.

Buildings burn, stores are looted.

Al Sharpton and Ben Crump trend on Twitter.

We get spoon fed even more bullshit by the media.

Nobody wants that.

Every time the chick at Starbucks bends over to grab shit from the lower cabinets my natural response is to jump over the counter and hump her like a dog.

I don’t. Because that’s illegal. And I’m a grown man capable of controlling myself.

 

[TurboTrout]

That’s the craziest shit I’ve ever heard.

Why encourage criminals to run when being apprehended? That’s a recipe for increased escalation.

Guy runs and gets tackled, takes a swing or tries to grab an officers gun because he’s now a victim of police brutality since he was tackled and scraped his knee.

Guy gets shot.

City (taxpayers) pay his family $40m for their pain and suffering.

Buildings burn, stores are looted.

Al Sharpton and Ben Crump trend on Twitter.

We get spoon fed even more bullshit by the media.

Nobody wants that.

Ok, I’m cool with that, just end qualified immunity, and if proven the initial reason for the stop was illegal make anything that happens, to the now victim, after that self defense.

If one’s (not you) position can’t stand without double standards, it’s a shit position.

 

[vinniedelpino]

Ok, I’m cool with that, just end qualified immunity, and if proven the initial reason for the stop was illegal make anything that happens, to the now victim, after that self defense.

If one’s (not you) position can’t stand without double standards, it’s a shit position.

I'll agree to canning qualified immunity.

The second part is a stretch. Way too subjective.

It's also illogical. How do you condemn LEOs for escalating situations, then advocate that individuals who are wrongly pulled over get carte blanche to react however they see fit without consequence?

 

[TurboTrout]

I'll agree to canning qualified immunity.

The second part is a stretch. Way too subjective.

It's also illogical. How do you condemn LEOs for escalating situations, then advocate that individuals who are wrongly pulled over get carte blanche to react however they see fit without consequence?

If you’re not willing to bet your life that your stop is just, why should I bet me life on it?

Also boils down to what people say when police hurt citizens, don’t start no shit won’t be no shit, but that ether goes both ways or it ain’t just.

Start shit with a citizen for unjust reasons, you just put a quarter in the stupid games slot, you should be able to enjoy your stupid prizes. And not a fuck should be given.

 

[Maser]

That’s the craziest shit I’ve ever heard.

Why encourage criminals to run when being apprehended? That’s a recipe for increased escalation.

Guy runs and gets tackled, takes a swing or tries to grab an officers gun because he’s now a victim of police brutality since he was tackled and scraped his knee.

Guy gets shot.

City (taxpayers) pay his family $40m for their pain and suffering.

Buildings burn, stores are looted.

Al Sharpton and Ben Crump trend on Twitter.

We get spoon fed even more bullshit by the media.

Nobody wants that.

The majority of fleeing suspects aren't fleeing because they wanna hurt or kill a cop or anyone else for that matter. They're fleeing because they want to get away. The way I always can tell whether or not a shoot is a good shoot is I remove the cops from the picture and insert a civilian with a CCW. If the civilian does the same shoot as the cop and is justified in doing so legally, then it's a good shoot for a cop or civilian.

As for high speed vehicle pursuits, that's even more ridiculous. Cops put everyone's lives on the road on the line all because they wanna chase someone who didn't want a traffic ticket. I know people like to twist that around and blame the suspect and saying they're the ones putting people's lives on the line, but where's a logic in that? Do you think a suspect is gonna be flying down the highway at reckless speeds when nobody is behind them chasing them? Of course not! They don't become reckless until they start being chased by a reckless cop.

 

[BLKWLFK9]

Another example of why cops should be required to earn at least a blue belt in jiu-jitsu, paid for by the department.

 

[TurboTrout]

Another example of why cops should be required to earn at least a blue belt in jiu-jitsu, paid for by the department.

Why shouldn’t they pay for it?

 

[BLKWLFK9]

Why shouldn’t they pay for it?

I think a good idea would be pay incentive. If you already have a blue belt, you get a bonus. If you don't have one, your time in class should be on duty time. Use the funds they normally use to pay the family members of the pieces of shit that get clapped up by doing stupid stuff. The departments almost always pay the families, even if they win in court. If a cop legitimately does wrong doing, that's one thing, but they normally end up forking over money regardless if the shooting was righteous. BJJ would prevent a ton of these type situations from further escalations. Not all but I dare say a majority. Cops are scared and don't know wtf to do in these situations and end up going to the bat belt out of fear. Let's have a true less than lethal yet very effective option for them to go to. Sometimes, dudes just need to get the heater, sometimes they need to just be put out and then cuffed.

 

[Im2bent]

Why shouldn’t they pay for it?

Next time you get pulled over please start a fight with the leo.

 

[TurboTrout]

I think a good idea would be pay incentive. If you already have a blue belt, you get a bonus. If you don't have one, your time in class should be on duty time. Use the funds they normally use to pay the family members of the pieces of shit that get clapped up by doing stupid stuff. The departments almost always pay the families, even if they win in court. If a cop legitimately does wrong doing, that's one thing, but they normally end up forking over money regardless if the shooting was righteous. BJJ would prevent a ton of these type situations from further escalations. Not all but I dare say a majority. Cops are scared and don't know wtf to do in these situations and end up going to the bat belt out of fear. Let's have a true less than lethal yet very effective option for them to go to. Sometimes, dudes just need to get the heater, sometimes they need to just be put out and then cuffed.

Maybe make it a requirement for the job, having no formal hand to hand combat experience should put your resume on the bottom of the stack, or in the trash. The qualification are already pretty low for the pay, I’d hope we could at least ask for a tiny self investment in a applicant.

 

[TurboTrout]

Next time you get pulled over please start a fight with the leo.

I know a few, I don’t like hurting people, I don’t have a reason to hurt anyone, and it’s not worth the squeeze for me, but if your mindset is taking it a step further than they are willing, it would be a bad outcome for them.

The reason most of these “fights” with LE end up with the cop winning is because the other guy is holding back/just wants to get away. VERY few actually want to take the cop out, it’s quite a different mindset between the fighters, and one that is majorly advantageous towards LE.

 

[BLKWLFK9]

Maybe make it a requirement for the job, having no formal hand to hand combat experience should put your resume on the top of the stack, or in the trash. The qualification are already pretty low for the pay, I’d hope we could at least ask for a tiny self investment in a applicant.

The low qualifications are equal to the shit pay. That's the way any job works. U need to hire a super qualified candidate, u wouldn't offer minimum wage or even close to it. U require more, you pay more. Probably the reason we have so many retards in uniform today. Some people have a genuine calling, some people have no other options, some people are on a power trip.

 

[vinniedelpino]

If you’re not willing to bet your life that your stop is just, why should I bet me life on it?

Also boils down to what people say when police hurt citizens, don’t start no shit won’t be no shit, but that ether goes both ways or it ain’t just.

Start shit with a citizen for unjust reasons, you just put a quarter in the stupid games slot, you should be able to enjoy your stupid prizes. And not a fuck should be given.

Because it's impractical, and creates a whole batch of new problems. If you were an officer, why would you bother stopping anyone at all with that kind of liability? Now crime rises and PDs push quotas. Cops don't want to pull over anyone that could be a threat, so they pick on women, the elderly etc. to fill their quotas. Can't fuck up that pension......

The majority of fleeing suspects aren't fleeing because they wanna hurt or kill a cop or anyone else for that matter. They're fleeing because they want to get away. The way I always can tell whether or not a shoot is a good shoot is I remove the cops from the picture and insert a civilian with a CCW. If the civilian does the same shoot as the cop and is justified in doing so legally, then it's a good shoot for a cop or civilian.

As for high speed vehicle pursuits, that's even more ridiculous. Cops put everyone's lives on the road on the line all because they wanna chase someone who didn't want a traffic ticket. I know people like to twist that around and blame the suspect and saying they're the ones putting people's lives on the line, but where's a logic in that? Do you think a suspect is gonna be flying down the highway at reckless speeds when nobody is behind them chasing them? Of course not! They don't become reckless until they start being chased by a reckless cop.

Civilians are responsible for themselves and themselves alone. Law enforcement is responsible for enforcing the law. It's their job. Civvies and LEOs aren't interchangeable at all.

Look ahead a little bit....

If police didn't pursue people that slam the gas and run, more people would speed away with the understanding that police won't pursue them if they run. Now you have more accidents and more innocents injured or killed at the hands of those that are fleeing. Most likely, the person is fleeing because they have warrants or something in the car they don't want the 5-0 to find. Now we have more degenerates on the street thus increasing crime rates. Who knows what damage they'll cause.

Stay pragmatic about this stuff. Hate on the police all you want, but these proposals are short sighted.

 

[TurboTrout]

The low qualifications are equal to the shit pay. That's the way any job works. U need to hire a super qualified candidate, u wouldn't offer minimum wage or even close to it. U require more, you pay more. Probably the reason we have so many retards in uniform today. Some people have a genuine calling, some people have no other options, some people are on a power trip.

Shit pay? When you add all the base pay LEAP pension etc up, for the required skills, it’s fucking winning the lottery.

Quick search, forget the site, but there was one where you cold look up these more directly, clear politics or pay or something

 

[BLKWLFK9]

I have a lot of cops in my academy. I know damn well, guns or not, I wouldn't want to fuck around with any of them. Dudes are straight savage on the mats and ain't no different on the street.