LOP and Eye relief in different positions with non-adjustable LOP?

[Anonymoose]

My KRG bravo does not have the adjustable LOP kit so I'm stuck with one LOP. I find that with the "shoulders square to the bore" method my eye relief is way too short in the prone if I set the scope up for a more upright position. I may add the $300 adj LOP kit but for now which position should I compromise the Shoulders Square position? Set it up for prone and blade my shoulders in the standing/kneeling/sitting position or vice versa? For the sake of this scenario let's assume I'm setting it up for PRS type shooting.

 

[Baron23]

My KRG bravo does not have the adjustable LOP kit so I'm stuck with one LOP. I find that with the "shoulders square to the bore" method my eye relief is way too short in the prone if I set the scope up for a more upright position. I may add the $300 adj LOP kit but for now which position should I compromise the Shoulders Square position? Set it up for prone and blade my shoulders in the standing/kneeling/sitting position or vice versa? For the sake of this scenario let's assume I'm setting it up for PRS type shooting.

Here’s a suggestion, I don’t have a Bravo but it looks like it has a standard butt pad (Pachmyr and similar).

can you not just have a thinner pad ground to fit? Any gunsmith with a spit should be able to grind a pad to fit in their sleep and you should be able to get at least a 1/2” reduction in length if not more.

just a thought.

 

[Newbie2020]

I have noticed the changing eye relief issue between shooting positions. But I don’t know many people who routinely change their LOP in real time as they move between stages.

That’s one justification of buying a scope with greater max magnification than needed: if you stay near the middle of the magnification range the eye box is more forgiving if you’re closer or further away.

 

[6.5SH]

For myself I wish the KRG was a bit shorter. I added this:
https://kineticresearchgroup.com/product/tool-less-pad/ which puts it on the edge of almost too long for me LOP wise.
So no using any of weighted spacers for me, at least I can still add lead to the cavities in the stock.

As to how I try to balance eye relief with a non LOP adjustable stock; most scopes will have a 1/2" or more of eye relief range.
I will try and position the scope in prone so that I am at the minimum of that range at max magnification. Unless you have a Giraffe neck it usually balances out.

 

[Anonymoose]

I have noticed the changing eye relief issue between shooting positions. But I don’t know many people who routinely change their LOP in real time as they move between stages.

That’s one justification of buying a scope with greater max magnification than needed: if you stay near the middle of the magnification range the eye box is more forgiving if you’re closer or further away.

First in response to @Baron23 I don't need a shorter LOP. It's that my eye relief differs so greatly between positions that and adjustable LOP would help.

I have a lowly Burris RT25 which at 25x has very small eye box. I'll try running at 18x-20x to see if that helps.

Assuming I won't be able to find a happy medium, which position should I compromise? I.e. which position should I set the scope up for?

 

[Dthomas3523]

I set prs rifles up for square upright shooting as that’s mainly what you will be doing.

Prone is very small part of this type of shooting and also more forgiving when you have to move your head a bit.

 

[Anonymoose]

For myself I wish the KRG was a bit shorter. I added this:
https://kineticresearchgroup.com/product/tool-less-pad/ which puts it on the edge of almost too long for me LOP wise.
So no using any of weighted spacers for me, at least I can still add lead to the cavities in the stock.

As to how I try to balance eye relief with a non LOP adjustable stock; most scopes will have a 1/2" or more of eye relief range.
I will try and position the scope in prone so that I am at the minimum of that range at max magnification. Unless you have a Giraffe neck it usually balances out.

I am short and stocky with something that sort of resembles a neck. Think Ram Man from He-Man.

So I'm not getting much help physically in dealing with this problem.

 

[Shootin Stuff]

Any reason you can't use a block of wood as a lop spacer? These things are tools, git er done.

 

[charnicus]

I would say get the LOP kit and re-evaluate. Try each position at as many practical magnification ranges as well that you can comfortably shoot with. I find around 12 or so is a good working amount.

 

[Anonymoose]

Any reason you can't use a block of wood as a lop spacer? These things are tools, git er done.

That does give me an idea. I have a small flat rectangular rear bag that would fill the void nicely.