LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

[MKSMN]

Hey, I've been reading this forum for a while, and it seems like there are some very knowledgeable members on here who can perhaps help me pick out a rifle.

The application will be for personal fun, and also a LE/SERT rifle. I want good accuracy to 500+ yards, semi-automatic action for a quick follow-up, and it (unfortunately) must be in a standard caliber or my superiors won't let me use it at work. So I'm thinking 7.62x51 (.308). Oh, and because it'll be suppressed at times, I'm considering a piston gun. Feedback on that is very welcome, I have no experience with gas-piston actions.

As much as I love the grand old M14, I need a rifle that will be both easy to pull accuracy out of, and relatively light. I need to be able to carry it up ladders, shafts, and multiple flights of stairs with full gear and my PDW, which will prob. turn out to be a MP5--thus my concern with weight. Those of you who can tell me the weight differences between the REPR, OBR, and an M1A (with say, a JAE-100), please do so.

I'd like to get some comparative range reports, but I haven't heard of anyone doing a shoot-off. I'm thinking 20" barrel, but if there is little to no difference between the 18" and 20", I might consider the 18". The longer barrel should only make a difference at long range (right?), which is not likely to come up in my urban LE environment, but is more for personal practice/target shooting fun.

Any other factors...this is, I hope, going to be a lifetime-keeper rifle, so I'm willing to spend a fair chunk on a good rifle and optics. Also, the dept. may cover a part of it, I'll have to try to talk them into it.

However, it's not like my uncle just left me 10K (eye-roll), so I DO want to get the most out of my money...a PSG-1 is off the table.

If you all have any other ideas on good options for me, please let me know. I've looked at the KAC rifles, but they seem both overpriced and hard to come by. I'm not real familiar with DPMS, but their LRT-SASS looks okay...I just don't recall hearing much good about their ARs. The AR-10 rifles seem quirky, different mags, etc.

Anyhow, let's hear some ideas!!
Thanks!!
RJ

 

[harrisjl]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

Neither is a bad choice, but depending on how patient you are, you may have no choice.

The Larue OBR is going to be at least a 6 month wait, they have only been shipping for about 6 weeks.

The reviews so far have been good but I cant vouch for either personally. I ordered my OBR 12/08 and I'm still waiting (my number did come up but Larue hasnt released the 18"-20" variants and refuses to answer when they will be shipping).

Yes a longer barrel is going to give you better velocity, 18-20 isnt really that significant though.

 

[robdes]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

I just bought a POF p308. I should be shooting it this weekend. I didn't have much luck with my REPR- I think that I got a lemon. LWRC is replacing my upper- BTW, they have awesome customer service. It is a heavy beast. I almost bought a Noveske. I might still do that. Hide members seem to think that they are sweet guns- maybe the best production semi-auto 308. You could also have one built, although it would be a DI and not a piston.

This looks interesting-
http://www.extremefirepower.com/rs.html

I'll post a range report on the POF.

 

[cubewarrior]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

I have a 20" REPR and have fired a lot of other 308 gas guns (POF, PSG1, SR9T, AR10, DPMS, Fulton, M1, M14, SR25, HK91).

The REPR has the following advantages:
1) Piston makes it much better to clean--like 5 minutes for the BCG and upper receiver.
2) I haven't completely broken it in, but it is 1MOA or less in accuracy already with M118LR.
3) Fit and finish are superb--better than any of the other gas 308's I've actually owned (DPMS, AR10, SR9T). I'm sure the Larue rifle will be just as good--haven't gotten a bad product from Larue yet.
4) Side charging handle makes it a lot easier to dry fire from position.
5) Rifle is built like a tank--time will tell regarding its reliability.

Things I don't like about the REPR:
1) My gas regulator sticks--this means that I must use a tool to swap back and forth between suppressed and normal modes. LWRC is working on it. This would be unacceptable in a combat rifle--not so much in other situations.
2) C-products and KAC mags work with the rifle. Other mags may be problematic. This isn't a big issue, but C-products mags consistently scratch my brass and KAC mags are god-awful expensive.
3) It is a heavy rifle--great for prone work, not so much from other positions.
4) Recoil is a little more pronounced than DI 308s--but it isn't severe. I think it kicks harder than any of the rifles listed above (may compete with some of the lighter HK91s I've fired).

Would I get another 308 gas gun over the REPR? No. I think its the best of its class. Time will tell with the Larue and the upcoming HK.

Steve

 

[JPaul]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

As for a NEW semi .308 goes, i am sold on Larue. I have spent hrs reasearching piston Vs DI and i favor DI (with a gas block) suppressed or not. Having a piston Sys with a suppressor will not keep your rifle cleaner, check this out http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=126&t=446047 But I would go with a piston on an SBR strictly for function.
If you are set on a piston i would keep the M14 and add the Sage EBR chassis and maybe spend the diffrence on optics

 

[MKSMN]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

Wow...that extremefirepower Rapid Strike .25 or .5 MOA guarantee is nice. Not cheap though.

Yeah, I'm interested in any quality accurate .308 semi-auto. I feel like LWRCI and Larue both have solid reputations for good customer service and standing behind their product, which could be important when dropping between $3500 and $5000 on a rifle/optics. I don't know much about POF, but I am interested.

 

[cubewarrior]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

Takes about 5 minutes to clean the BCG and upper with the REPR--much less for the REPR than my AR10 when cleaning to the same standard.

I prefer DI over piston... I'm so sick of cleaning ARs after 18 years in the Army, that I'm very happy with the REPR.

 

[MKSMN]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

Ok, now I have it narrowed to the GAP AR-10 based on a DPMS

lower, the LMT MWS, the Larue OBR 20", and the LWRC REPR 20". I'm thinking Larue OBR or LMT MWS. Both look very impressive.

Does anyone happen to know of someone who got tired of waiting and no longer needs their OBR order?

'Cause that would would be awesome. I can afford to wait another 6 months...I can always shoot my Rem. 700 until then.

 

[JerkeeJoe]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

I mademy choice and went with the OBR. In the end, both are very nice rifles. I have heard of a lot of problems with the REPR though, and haven't heard of any issues with the OBR yet. Granted, there are not as many OBR's floating around out there yet as there are REPRs. The REPR uppers have been said to have a lot of problems wit feeding reliability and the CProducts mags they come with are not the best. The LaRue mags are really nice in comparison. The side charge on the REPR is awesome though, and they appear to be very cleanly finished.

I think that regardless of which you choose, and assuming no problems with function, you'll have a very very nice rifle.

Here's links to a few range reports from my OBR:

OBR 1100 Yard range report

OBR initial and 1000 yard range report

Range Report by Hide Member wilb

Here's a video we shot of me doing a mag dump. Shows how soft the OBR recoils and how easy it is to stay on target:

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[pharm762]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

I actually would rather buy the GAP rifle because you are guaranteed accuracy and good quality parts for the same kind of money and it will be built to your preferences and standard. Second would be the OBR because I do like that built in 20 MOA rail system.

 

[MKSMN]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

I want to be able to use the Pmags, rather than the Armalite, so the Noveske is out, unfortunately. I'm wavering between the REPR, OBR, LMT MWS, and the GAP AR-10. I'm not sure about waiting a year...but hey, for a 3/4 MOA guarantee, ~$3000 is a heck of a tough price to beat. It would have to be on a DPMS lower though, to use the Pmags.

Thanks for all the info, you guys are very helpful! And very knowledgeable!
Thanks again,
RJ

 

[hinkson45]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CubeWarrior</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Things I don't like about the REPR:
1) My gas regulator sticks--this means that I must use a tool to swap back and forth between suppressed and normal modes. LWRC is working on it. This would be unacceptable in a combat rifle--not so much in other situations.
<span style="font-weight: bold">2) C-products and KAC mags work with the rifle. Other mags may be problematic. This isn't a big issue, but C-products mags consistently scratch my brass and KAC mags are god-awful expensive.</span>
3) It is a heavy rifle--great for prone work, not so much from other positions.
4) Recoil is a little more pronounced than DI 308s--but it isn't severe. I think it kicks harder than any of the rifles listed above (may compete with some of the lighter HK91s I've fired).

Would I get another 308 gas gun over the REPR? No. I think its the best of its class. Time will tell with the Larue and the upcoming HK.

Steve </div></div>

Have you tried the magpuls yet?

 

[hinkson45]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

I have a GAP AR being built right now, and I should have my OBR by June. I'm looking forward to comparing the two.

 

[sickeness]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

Numerous end reports have stated that Magpul 7.62 do not work reliably with the REPR. They fit very loosely and cause many nosedive failure to feed errors.

 

[Impact]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

I like the LMT .308 myself. Just won the UK MOD DMR contract. Very nice gas gun for a fair price.

 

[Rotortuner]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pharm762</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I actually would rather buy the GAP rifle because you are guaranteed accuracy and good quality parts for the same kind of money and it will be built to your preferences and standard. Second would be the OBR because I do like that built in 20 MOA rail system. </div></div>

All the OBR's come with test targets that prove moa or better accuracy. I think thats better than a guarentee, they are proving it. ahahha I think either gun is going to be a good one, I went with Larue though, I have only been impressed with the stealth I bought last year.

CJG

 

[barnes12]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

I have two 308 ar's a GAP AR10 and the LWRC REPR with the 16 inch barrel, nothing but good things to say about the repr, I mainly shoot it suppressed and have had no problems except that the gas adjust knob did stick once but fixed it once and have had no problems since. It is very accurate from what I have found, just have an aimpoint on it that I use in conjunction with NV while hunting pigs on our ranch. The GA is an absolute tackdriver, 20" barrel that I can also shoot suppressed. Anyway I love the REPR for what I use it for and they have great customer service.

 

[hinkson45]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barnes12</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have two 308 ar's a GAP AR10 and the LWRC REPR with the 16 inch barrel, nothing but good things to say about the repr, I mainly shoot it suppressed and have had no problems except that the gas adjust knob did stick once but fixed it once and have had no problems since. It is very accurate from what I have found, just have an aimpoint on it that I use in conjunction with NV while hunting pigs on our ranch. The GA is an absolute tackdriver, 20" barrel that I can also shoot suppressed. Anyway I love the REPR for what I use it for and they have great customer service. </div></div>

So if you could only chose one, it'd be the REPR?

 

[jkkfam89]

Re: LWRC REPR or Larue OBR?

I had the REPR, but never fired it. I sold it to another Hide member. I ended up getting a POF-308 from him. I just shot the POF-308 and it is awesome. The person I sold the REPR to, liked the POF much more. That is what I can give you as to the REPR.
The OBR, well hopefully I will shoot that this weekend and will update.