managing muzzle jump/recoil??

[stradibarrius]

I have read and watched a lot of videos about this subject. Some say have a soft shoulder absorb the recoil...a video here on SH says you should pull the rifle into the shoulder with a force equal to lifting the weight of the rifle.
I don't understand how you can do both? Can you do both...if so how.

 

[Precision Underground]

I have read and watched a lot of videos about this subject. Some say have a soft shoulder absorb the recoil...a video here on SH says you should pull the rifle into the shoulder with a force equal to lifting the weight of the rifle.
I don't understand how you can do both? Can you do both...if so how.

It’s a tricky thing to do until you get it. Focus on relaxing your shoulder and 100% isolating your bicep for pulling. To get the feel, lay prone and reach up and grab the magazine and pull from there. Stretching your arm out makes it easier to keep the shoulder relaxed. This is why too short of a length of pull makes it even harder. Find what it feels like by grabbing the mag and then bring your hand back to the grip with the same feel.

Also make sure you aren’t supporting your weight on your elbow. If your elbow is under and supporting weight it’s nearly impossible to relax the shoulder.

 

[Lowlight]

You have to marry the rifle to the shoulder, it has to have firm contact, first

Then once you have it in place, you relax behind the rifle, the pressure to the rear does not change, it just maintains, but then you relax the rest of the body so you are a slab of dead meat behind the rifle.

The shoulder and the bicep are two separate muscle groups, the tension in the shoulder is not the rearward pressure of the arm

You relax the shoulders, which is not at cross purposes, two separate things

Clearly a large group accomplishes this so it's not really hard, it's just different ways to say the same thing so people can understand it

The biggest mistake is people holding tension in the shoulders, you bring the rifle to the shoulder first, setting that up as move into position, the bipod holds it in place so you can relax the shoulders at the same time.

 

[rustyinbend]

Great stuff. Question ... How does a squeeze bag fit into this equation? I find that is the best way to "gently raise" the cross-hairs onto the target, so is that OK, and how do I solve for the off-hand not pushing the rifle rearward to stay seated in the shoulder?

 

[sleeplz]

This video shows something that I've been trying and I like it so far. Visuals always helped me so maybe this will help you. Kinda answers your bag question as well.

 

[mmahoney]

I'm definitely guilty of scooting forward into the shooting position like his students are. Thanks for the video.

 

[mmahoney]

This video shows something that I've been trying and I like it so far. Visuals always helped me so maybe this will help you. Kinda answers your bag question as well.

I like the strap he uses on the small bag in part 2. I need to get me one of those.

 

[CcoFirst]

You have to marry the rifle to the shoulder, it has to have firm contact, first

Then once you have it in place, you relax behind the rifle, the pressure to the rear does not change, it just maintains, but then you relax the rest of the body so you are a slab of dead meat behind the rifle.

The shoulder and the bicep are two separate muscle groups, the tension in the shoulder is not the rearward pressure of the arm

You relax the shoulders, which is not at cross purposes, two separate things

Clearly a large group accomplishes this so it's not really hard, it's just different ways to say the same thing so people can understand it

The biggest mistake is people holding tension in the shoulders, you bring the rifle to the shoulder first, setting that up as move into position, the bipod holds it in place so you can relax the shoulders at the same time.

The most difficult fundamental for me.

 

[theLBC]

if the recoil is allowed to go straight back it will because it wants to (equal and opposite force).
if not, some energy will go to making the rifle want to go up or down or to one side or another.
obviously down is restricted, which leaves the other 3.

 

[CcoFirst]

if the recoil is allowed to go straight back it will because it wants to (equal and opposite force).
if not, some energy will go to making the rifle want to go up or down or to one side or another.
obviously down is restricted, which leaves the other 3.

Defiantly sight picture goes left and up, sliding down collar bone . Ive been fighting for a few range sessions.

 

[Dthomas3523]

Defiantly sight picture goes left and up, sliding down collar bone . Ive been fighting for a few range sessions.

Most everyone will have some slight up and left (up and right for left handed shooter).

Similar to a handgun, we can’t get exactly perfect behind the recoils of the rifle. So there will be some deflection.

The amount is what you’re looking for. If it’s a very minor amount of movement, you’re doing it right.

 

[Rocketmandb]

Most everyone will have some slight up and left (up and right for left handed shooter).

Similar to a handgun, we can’t get exactly perfect behind the recoils of the rifle. So there will be some deflection.

And I don't mind a little bit of deflection because it moves the reticle out of the way to help spot impacts. For me, a small, consistent amount is okay.