Get behind em. Trust me. I hated the AICS and ran only Manners/Mcm/HSP. I didn't like the look, and had a thumbhole on a 10/22 and hated it. In a few weeks I got behind a 2.0 and fell in love, but didn't want the folder and got a 1.5, and now I own 3, and a KRG. Good thing about manners is , call em up, give em your cc# and they'll send you whatever you wanna try, as soon as they have one in. Manners with a mini chasis... As good as it gets though.