With the accustock, my groups where everywhere from 1.5 to 3 inches. I was able to hold two groups at 200 yards to .25 MOA once. Same factory ammo. I travel a lot for work and can't wait to get home and get some hand loads going. I really like this superformance 165 SST for my .30-06. Besides hand loading, I will get a criterion barrel and timney trigger. After that it is a Magnum bolt face with a 300 WIN mag barrel and 6.5 PRC barrel. I am starting a 6.5 CM build as well using a savage 12 short action. Plan for the build is a XLR Element chassis and Benchmark barrel. I will do all the action and trigger work myself. The cost for the SA build is 1300 which is the cost of a custom action. I will get a .308 and .243AI barrel for the SA. the floating bolt head on the savage is amazing. Savages are not the smoothest action but I am not competing in competition where seconds matter. Savages are as accurate as any production rifle/Action on the market. Then I will have 6 rifles for the cost of 3. Before all the Savage bashers start hating, to each his own. if it works for you, don't fix it.