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Gunsmithing metal lathe?

benchmstr

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i am in the market for a affordable metal lathe.....this will be for my own personal use, so it doesnt have to be anything special....i am just going to use it for standard re-barreling and such...

anybody got any recomendations?

bench
 
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unless you know what to look for in a used lathe or have someone knowledgeable on operating a lathe come with you when looking, as much as it pains me to say it, someone looking into getting an "affordable" lathe may be better off with a new import.
 
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I agree with 300sniper, and the imports do have different quality levels. The ones made in Taiwan seem to have a bit higher quality, but also carry a higher price tag. Good luck.
 
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Contact Matt, owner of Quality Machine Tools in PA.
http://www.machinetoolonline.com/

He imports many brands and repairs machines.

Remember when 50 VCR brands were made in 3 factories?
You know how 50 rifle scope brands are made in 3 factories.

Matt can explain how all the manual lathes have some things in common.

You can pay 3 times as much with some brands and get the same thing, not even painted a different color.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: farmer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sounth Bend Heavy 10 if you can find one. </div></div>

+1... I used one of these for years when I first started my apprenticeship in the early 1970s. You can do a lot with that little machine.
 
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Bench-

If you would like you can give me a shout. I am the Hyundai-Kia, Cosen, Niigatta, Hanwha, etc. dealer for KS, MO, OK, NE and have a bunch of used machine dealers across the county that take my trade-ins. If you can get me some figures in regards to your budget I can probably find something in you price range. It's still somewhat a buyers market out there so that are some great deals at the moment. Also, if you have any questions please feel free to ask. As far as something like a Jet is concerned they are much like a hobby lathe and I can get you pricing on that as well.
Take Care

Ryan
 
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i'd rather have a new import than a worn out american lathe. if you don't know what to look for when buying a used lathe, you may end up with something unusable for barrel work. at least a new lathe, you can take internet advise from others with that same lathe and not worry about getting an old worn out machine.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BPaige</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FWIW grizzly has bought the South bend name and will/is producing new import lathes with the south bend names....heavy 10 is in the works, whether or noth it is a new reproduction or just an import wearing the "heavy 10" is unknown to me./ </div></div>
Only problem is.....the best Griz is less than half of the SouthBend labelled machines. If they are SB's, fine, if not, still fine as I would buy the best Griz and have money left over, throw the first in the dumpster and buy another one.
 
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I haven't seen any prices for the SB at all, one can only assume they would have to be higher priced to recoup the cost of the name.

Like a previous post stated, "i'd rather have a new import than a beat up american..."
 
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The new SB made is China is a Jet/Grizzly/GMC/Harrison/Clausing/Precision Matthews/Sharp/Birmingham/Enco/Harbor Freight/Smithy/MSC/Bernardo/Rong Fu/ etc clone.

The new SB lathe is no more an American design than it is the man in the moon.

My brother's 10 year old Jet lathe has 80% interchangeable parts with my new Precision Matthews lathe.

The really expensive aircraft or medical electronic boxes I design or the really expensive electronic test instruments my wife designs may be American designs, but are being built in China by Jabil. The cheap crap car electronics my son is designing are built in China.

The new Chinese lathe I bought in 2009 with DRO and a foot brake, delivered to my door, did not cost that much more than is costs to SHIP an old lathe bought on EBAY.

What does it all mean?
1) There are a billion Chinese with higher IQs than American workers that would love to move from the sustenance agricultural jobs to the manufacturing sector. That cheap, intelligent, and motivated work force is going to make our manual lathes for us from cast iron for the foreseeable future.
2) Chinese are hell to negotiate with. You must have an American importer quality control department and warranty between you and dealing with Chinese businessmen.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Clark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The new SB made is China is a Jet/Grizzly/GMC/Harrison/Clausing/Precision Matthews/Sharp/Birmingham/Enco/Harbor Freight/Smithy/MSC/Bernardo/Rong Fu/ etc clone.

The new SB lathe is no more an American design than it is the man in the moon.

My brother's 10 year old Jet lathe has 80% interchangeable parts with my new Precision Matthews lathe.

The really expensive aircraft or medical electronic boxes I design or the really expensive electronic test instruments my wife designs may be American designs, but are being built in China by Jabil. The cheap crap car electronics my son is designing are built in China.

The new Chinese lathe I bought in 2009 with DRO and a foot brake, delivered to my door, did not cost that much more than is costs to SHIP an old lathe bought on EBAY.

What does it all mean?
1) There are a billion Chinese with higher IQs than American workers that would love to move from the sustenance agricultural jobs to the manufacturing sector. That cheap, intelligent, and motivated work force is going to make our manual lathes for us from cast iron for the foreseeable future.
2) Chinese are hell to negotiate with. You must have an American importer quality control department and warranty between you and dealing with Chinese businessmen. </div></div>
Well put. Thats why I went with a Griz for the customer support. In the past I priced old american lathes, your'e right, the shipping was in the thousands of dollars. And for what? A beat machine with little tooling. It is sad that the US has lost its manufacturing ability and I pray for our next generations who are only a consumer and not a maker. One the good side, my 0554Z Griz is actually quite accurate and smooth. Maybe I got lucky, who knows.
 
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If anybody is interested, Boston Machinery picked up 7 very lightly used Heavy 10s and are refurbing them. I think they still have a couple. Call Paul Terry and tell him Dale Troutt sent you. Great guys to deal with and very nice deal. Really hard to beat a well setup SB for what we do.
 
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My 02 cents worth as stated above.

I would love to have an old SB heavy 10 but the fact is they are scarce, often worn out and never close enough to justify the shipping cost for me.

I bought a Grizzly G4003G and have been happy with it for 2 years now. It is capable of very good accuracy and I have had little trouble with it. ( Start capacitor on motor went bad ).

I dont like the idea of having Chinese components / machinery but....they are cheap and...so far..dependable.
 
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I need a cool avatar
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i have been using the precision matthews PM1236. it does just fine for barrel work. i called about upgrading and was told it would take 10K to get a better machine. this is coming from the guy who would have sold it to me! the only trouble i have had was the coolant pump. i also had to adjust the headstock bearing once. hold VERY good tolerances.

chuck