Mexico town's police force quits after attack

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CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) — An entire 20-man police force resigned in a northern Mexican town after a series of attacks that killed the police chief and five officers over the last three months, state officials said Thursday.
The officers' resignation Thursday left the 13,000 people of Ascension without local police services, Chihuahua state chief prosecutor Carlos Manuel Salas said. State and federal police have moved in to take over police work, he said.
The mass resignation appeared to be connected to a Tuesday attack by gunmen that killed three of the town's officers, Salas said.

But it wasn't the first deadly attack on the police department this year.
In mid-May, police chief Manuel Martinez, who had been in office just seven months, was gunned down with two other officers on a nearby highway. The three had been kidnapped a day before police found their bodies riddled with bullets in the back seat of a sedan.

The town's police force was relatively new.

Angry residents had led authorities to replace the entire force last September after the mob killings of two teenagers who had allegedly kidnapped a girl from a seafood restaurant. People claimed police officers were aiding drug gangs.
Martinez, with his new police force, had said he wanted to end the kidnappings and extortions that have terrorized the town where people grow green chili and cotton.

The new police in Ascension had installed a telescopic camera in the town's plaza that rotated, giving officers at the station the ability to zoom on a site as far as the outskirts of town.

In addition, townspeople helped police dig a broad ditch around the town to prevent criminals from escaping on back roads.

Ascension is southwest of Ciudad Juarez, the border city across from El Paso, Texas, that is one of Mexico's most violent cities. The state of Chihuahua has had the most homicides blamed on organized crime and drug trafficking since the government's anti-drug offensive began in December 2006.
Elsewhere, the Defense Department announced that a 19-day offensive in northern states against the Zetas drug cartel had resulted in the shooting deaths of 30 alleged criminals and a soldier.

The army said that among those killed was Jorge Luis de la Pena, the Zetas boss for Nuevo Laredo, the city across the Rio Grande from Laredo, Texas.
Troops also detained 196 people in different cities during operation "North Lynx."

The Zetas gang, known for its viciousness, has been fighting its former ally, the Gulf cartel, in Mexico's north since early 2010.
Near the northern industrial hub of Monterrey, police found the bodies of two men each hanging by an ankle from a pedestrian bridge. Officers said a witness reported that gunmen strung up the men alive and then shot them.
Such grisly displays at bridges have become common in and around Monterrey as well as in other Mexican cities torn by drug violence.
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Associated Press writer Adriana Gomez Licon in Mexico City contributed to this report.
 
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Anybody looking for work?

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I've been to Mexico at least 100 times, never met an offical in mexico that would not take a bribe. In fact, it was expected. Back when I use to drive from Arizona to beaches in Mexico, when you crossed the border-a few dollars would keep you from waiting in line for hours. In fact, the mexican army has been seen protecting drug runners coming into the U.S. It would be hard to be all that upset when one group of criminals kills another group of criminals. We need to secure our Border, or this crap is really going to spill over!
 
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I have not been over the border in a long time even though I am only 25 miles away from TJ. When I did go down it was when I was off road racing. The local cops were corrupt as heck but the Federalis were pimply faced teenagers with their fingers on the triggers of M-16's. It was common knowledge to pay the cops and don't "F" with the Federalis.
Way to dangerous down there now.
 
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Close all crossing points to any but Americans (coming back) search every one of their vehicles. Deploy Apaches, Cobras, and troop crier helos with Army and marine squads assisting the Border Partol officer on board with arrests. Deploy Lav's and Bradleys with their Thermal sights and troops in the back.
And then build a multi layer wall and fence like Israel, with guard towers and cameras and Thermal imaging. If the Indian reservations don't like it tough. They are deeply involved in the smuggling anyway.
Screw "Free Trade" that steals our jobs. Screw "Good Neighbors" that invade our country, flout our laws, smuggle in drugs, and steal from our citizens.
Deport anybody who has a kid born in America and is illegal. They can leave the kid in Foster Care ofr take it with them. Deport anybody who marries a American or Legal Resident without getting a State Department clearance forst, and make those almost immpossible to get anyway. test evey woman of child bearing age for preganancy on arrival, and make their Visas short duration for everybody.
If we want to be a "Multicultuaral and Diverse" society we already have enough Muslims, Africans, Mexicans, and Central and South Americans. There are enough Chinese.
lets cut out their quotas and get some immigrants from Iceland, and Finland and Poland. We can do without Russians, Turks, and Gypos too.
We don't owe anybody shit. Cut off all the foriegn aid through the UN too. We will help our real friends, a little, but I'll be damned if the IMF and WHO is gonna distribute our generosity.
And next time some Muslim country has a earthquake or Tsunami or Civil War, let them take care of their own and see how that works out.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lets cut out their uatas and get some immigrants from Iceland, and Finland and Poland. We can do without Russians, Turks, and <span style="font-weight: bold">Gypos</span> too.</div></div>

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gypo

You're quite an asset to this forum.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lets cut out their uatas and get some immigrants from Iceland, and Finland and Poland. We can do without Russians, Turks, and <span style="font-weight: bold">Gypos</span> too.</div></div>

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gypo

You're quite an asset to this forum. </div></div>
Thank you. I try. It is nice to be appreciated. But don't think I'm racist. My wife is a Rican.
I am sure that France and Italy also have enough Gypsies, which is why they arrest and deport them back to whatever balkan shithole they came from.
We have enough also. The "Travelers" who go around scamming people half the year, and shoplifting, and then return to to their mansions in Florida for the winter. Whole "communities" of them. Yea, we got enough Gypsies too.
I understand a lot of the latest Gypo arrivals are settling into southern California. They should fit right in.
 
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This site is not about your personal political views, rights and freedom as you see fit, it is about the exchange of information that spans multiple countries, multiple nationalities, multiple cultures, and if you can't respect everyone together you can leave.

It's just that simple.
 
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The whole force, and their families, are likely already in Texas demanding asylum, like that brave female who was a Police Chief in some town for what, two weeks?
Close the border, militarize it, and let them wallow in their own problems.
 
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This is the Bear Pit, and when they respect our sovereignty, our laws, and our culture, I'll return the favor.
But just because they want to create "Azaltan" in my country, and are pissed off they lost two wars with us 150 years ago (and we still paid them) doesn't mean I have to be sympathetic to the poor, suffering, and corrupt mexicans. They can go to hell. They have been shipping their excess population, their criminals, and their drugs up here way too long. Let them kill each other while we stand guard on the border and keep them on their side of it. It's nothing but a NarcoState.
 
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Racism and bigotry is rarely all inclusive. You can love a 'rican and hate those nasty Guatemalans.

Where the bigotry and racism shows itself is in the repeating of half truths to flat out lies. Combining everyone as part of the very small worse part of any group is classic bigotry.

That can be the white supremists being used to say everyone in Idaho is like that. Every Italian is a made man in the mafia, or at least a crook if you don't watch him like a hawk. because of a few, all Muslims want to murder us in our sleep.

So the Azaltan stalking horse is without much popular support within the Latino community where La Raza is a point of pride not exclusion, or code for invasion. fact is many hispanics join the Armed Forces, pay taxes and long for all that is 'American' culture. (FYI both continents in the New World are AMERICAN) What is American Culture with its porn, drugs, teenage mothers, intense consumption, obesity, with pious counter revolutions from religious groups?

The Mexicans are not pushing their drugs on us but we are sucking them in from around the globe, from South American cocaine to Afgani heroin.

One quick note on the wars 150 years ago- After mexico refused to sell what would become the SW USofA, we invaded and took it, offering a few bucks afterwards. President Polk was censured by Congress for an unConstitutional War inwhich Honest Abe wrote in support of the amendment.

So get the facts straight before ya draw the respect line.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: notquiteright</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Racism and bigotry is rarely all inclusive. You can love a 'rican and hate those nasty Guatemalans.

Where the bigotry and racism shows itself is in the repeating of half truths to flat out lies. Combining everyone as part of the very small worse part of any group is classic bigotry.

That can be the white supremists being used to say everyone in Idaho is like that. Every Italian is a made man in the mafia, or at least a crook if you don't watch him like a hawk. because of a few, all Muslims want to murder us in our sleep.

So the Azaltan stalking horse is without much popular support within the Latino community where La Raza is a point of pride not exclusion, or code for invasion. fact is many hispanics join the Armed Forces, pay taxes and long for all that is 'American' culture. (FYI both continents in the New World are AMERICAN) What is American Culture with its porn, drugs, teenage mothers, intense consumption, obesity, with pious counter revolutions from religious groups?

The Mexicans are not pushing their drugs on us but we are sucking them in from around the globe, from South American cocaine to Afgani heroin.

One quick note on the wars 150 years ago- After mexico refused to sell what would become the SW USofA, we invaded and took it, offering a few bucks afterwards. President Polk was censured by Congress for an unConstitutional War inwhich Honest Abe wrote in support of the amendment.

So get the facts straight before ya draw the respect line.

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Thank you. with all due respect, the guy just needs to show a bit more civility. Seems to hate everything and everyone thats not him.
 
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I see you proudly display "Free Gaza" as a your signature, huh Goldie?
Don't miss the next flotilla. I'm sure there will be a seat for you on the "SS Audacity of Hope". I understand that Iran will be providing a Naval Escort. That should reassure you.
In case you didn't know it, Hamas is a terrorist organization, and Gaza elected them. Are you a Muslim Jihadist Terrorist supporter and enabler?
 
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I love how some people pick a point in time of American history to justify their ideology. Why critique the Mexican-American and not the Revolutionary War? Didn't the British invest heavily in the settlement of America and have valid claims?

Better yet, we should have left the continent they way it was under the British, French, Spanish and Mexican rule. That would have been fair... right! Oh, and we all could have gotten along real well and lived happily ever after.

Save me from the intellectuals and their revisionist history lessons.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see you proudly display "Free Gaza" as a your signature, huh Goldie?
Don't miss the next flotilla. I'm sure there will be a seat for you on the "SS Audacity of Hope". I understand that Iran will be providing a Naval Escort. That should reassure you.
In case you didn't know it, Hamas is a terrorist organization, and Gaza elected them. Are you a Muslim Jihadist Terrorist supporter and enabler? </div></div>

Id love to answer you but it seems I get banned for things that others get away with. Not much fun entering a battle with your hands tied behind your back so Ill just have a private laugh at you, and stay out of this one.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Close all crossing points to any but Americans (coming back) search every one of their vehicles. Deploy Apaches, Cobras, and troop crier helos with Army and marine squads assisting the Border Partol officer on board with arrests. Deploy Lav's and Bradleys with their Thermal sights and troops in the back.
And then build a multi layer wall and fence like Israel, with guard towers and cameras and Thermal imaging. If the Indian reservations don't like it tough. They are deeply involved in the smuggling anyway.
Screw "Free Trade" that steals our jobs. Screw "Good Neighbors" that invade our country, flout our laws, smuggle in drugs, and steal from our citizens.
Deport anybody who has a kid born in America and is illegal. They can leave the kid in Foster Care ofr take it with them. Deport anybody who marries a American or Legal Resident without getting a State Department clearance forst, and make those almost immpossible to get anyway. test evey woman of child bearing age for preganancy on arrival, and make their Visas short duration for everybody.
If we want to be a "Multicultuaral and Diverse" society we already have enough Muslims, Africans, Mexicans, and Central and South Americans. There are enough Chinese.
lets cut out their quotas and get some immigrants from Iceland, and Finland and Poland. We can do without Russians, Turks, and Gypos too.
We don't owe anybody shit. Cut off all the foriegn aid through the UN too. We will help our real friends, a little, but I'll be damned if the IMF and WHO is gonna distribute our generosity.
And next time some Muslim country has a earthquake or Tsunami or Civil War, let them take care of their own and see how that works out.
</div></div>

How about we just shoot drug users in this country in the back of the head? No profit in that for who, though?

Drug users cause the, drug traffic problem, the root problem/issue is deeper, within this country. Remove the root issue the rest is down hill.

Players can try to B/S other players an the fans, but don't try to B/S the ref.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Close all crossing points to any but Americans (coming back) search every one of their vehicles. Deploy Apaches, Cobras, and troop crier helos with Army and marine squads assisting the Border Partol officer on board with arrests. Deploy Lav's and Bradleys with their Thermal sights and troops in the back.
And then build a multi layer wall and fence like Israel, with guard towers and cameras and Thermal imaging. If the Indian reservations don't like it tough. They are deeply involved in the smuggling anyway.
Screw "Free Trade" that steals our jobs. Screw "Good Neighbors" that invade our country, flout our laws, smuggle in drugs, and steal from our citizens.
Deport anybody who has a kid born in America and is illegal. They can leave the kid in Foster Care ofr take it with them. Deport anybody who marries a American or Legal Resident without getting a State Department clearance forst, and make those almost immpossible to get anyway. test evey woman of child bearing age for preganancy on arrival, and make their Visas short duration for everybody.
If we want to be a "Multicultuaral and Diverse" society we already have enough Muslims, Africans, Mexicans, and Central and South Americans. There are enough Chinese.
lets cut out their quotas and get some immigrants from Iceland, and Finland and Poland. We can do without Russians, Turks, and Gypos too.
We don't owe anybody shit. Cut off all the foriegn aid through the UN too. We will help our real friends, a little, but I'll be damned if the IMF and WHO is gonna distribute our generosity.
And next time some Muslim country has a earthquake or Tsunami or Civil War, let them take care of their own and see how that works out.
</div></div>

<span style="color: #FF0000">How about we just shoot drug users in this country in the back of the head? </span> No profit in that for who, though?

Drug users cause the, drug traffic problem, the root problem/issue is deeper, within this country. Remove the root issue the rest is down hill.

Players can try to B/S other players an the fans, but don't try to B/S the ref. </div></div>

Sounds like good policy. Lets start with those who use the most dangerous drug, ignorance, then alcohol, tobacco, and on down the list. Thin out the population, and create a lot of new job openings.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lets start with those who use the most dangerous drug, ignorance, then alcohol, tobacco, and on down the list.</div></div>

Works for me, when do we start?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Close all crossing points to any but Americans (coming back) search every one of their vehicles. Deploy Apaches, Cobras, and troop crier helos with Army and marine squads assisting the Border Partol officer on board with arrests. Deploy Lav's and Bradleys with their Thermal sights and troops in the back.
And then build a multi layer wall and fence like Israel, with guard towers and cameras and Thermal imaging. If the Indian reservations don't like it tough. They are deeply involved in the smuggling anyway.
Screw "Free Trade" that steals our jobs. Screw "Good Neighbors" that invade our country, flout our laws, smuggle in drugs, and steal from our citizens.
Deport anybody who has a kid born in America and is illegal. They can leave the kid in Foster Care ofr take it with them. Deport anybody who marries a American or Legal Resident without getting a State Department clearance forst, and make those almost immpossible to get anyway. test evey woman of child bearing age for preganancy on arrival, and make their Visas short duration for everybody.
If we want to be a "Multicultuaral and Diverse" society we already have enough Muslims, Africans, Mexicans, and Central and South Americans. There are enough Chinese.
lets cut out their quotas and get some immigrants from Iceland, and Finland and Poland. We can do without Russians, Turks, and Gypos too.
We don't owe anybody shit. Cut off all the foriegn aid through the UN too. We will help our real friends, a little, but I'll be damned if the IMF and WHO is gonna distribute our generosity.
And next time some Muslim country has a earthquake or Tsunami or Civil War, let them take care of their own and see how that works out.
</div></div>

How about we just shoot drug users in this country in the back of the head? No profit in that for who, though?

Drug users cause the, drug traffic problem, the root problem/issue is deeper, within this country. Remove the root issue the rest is down hill.

Players can try to B/S other players an the fans, but don't try to B/S the ref. </div></div>
How about we give each 28 days of inpatient rehab, and methadone therapy for 2 weeks if appropriate, and do it once. After that if they "reoffend" we do everybody a favor, including them, and shoot them in the head. That should pander to the sympathy of the tolerant, Leftists.
How about we fire a single warning burst over the heads of illegal border crosses and if they run we fire for effect.
How about ICE teams travel around and round up all those who overstayed their visas.
How about ICE round up all those working illegally here. All of them, and turn them over to Sherrif Joe in Arizona to hold until they are deported. We'll send them a bill for their American Born children's tickets on the plane and they can pay it with the money they having been illegally sending "back home".
 
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I'll put my 2 cents in, and try real hard not to be racist or political.

My family has owned property in Mexico for close to 40 years.I have frequently visited the country since my teenage years. I'll ask and answer a few question from my perspective.

Is Mexico a corrupt country? Yes it is, always has been and a lot worse now, however people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Take a look at ourselves. Only difference in Mexico's corruption and ours is the bloodshed.

What fuels the Illicit Drug traffic from Mexico? America's insatiable appetite for those aforementioned drugs.

I am very much anti Illegal Immigration, regardless of origin of the immigrant. However one must ask the question, if business didn't have the appetite for the less expensive labor, and the greed to not want to pay the employment obligations imposed on business by the government, Then "Illegal" aliens wouldn't be able to work in this country without contributing what the American worker is obligated to pay.

Now if we take eliminate the "Demand" for the constant supply of drugs,and the "Demand" for the Illegal worker, then "Anchor babies"" would be the least of our worries.

America is not to blame for Mexico's problems, however I believe you must ask yourself the question. Is Mexico really to blame for America's dirty laundry?

Now back to the OP context. I'm honestly surprised that any of the border towns could retain any law enforcement whatsoever. There are in fact some small jurisdictions in Mexico I'd wager still carrying six-shooters. I'd have to appreciate their survival strategy. If another 3 or 4 months passed they would have all been dead.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Close all crossing points to any but Americans (coming back) search every one of their vehicles. Deploy Apaches, Cobras, and troop crier helos with Army and marine squads assisting the Border Partol officer on board with arrests. Deploy Lav's and Bradleys with their Thermal sights and troops in the back.
And then build a multi layer wall and fence like Israel, with guard towers and cameras and Thermal imaging. If the Indian reservations don't like it tough. They are deeply involved in the smuggling anyway.
Screw "Free Trade" that steals our jobs. Screw "Good Neighbors" that invade our country, flout our laws, smuggle in drugs, and steal from our citizens.
Deport anybody who has a kid born in America and is illegal. They can leave the kid in Foster Care ofr take it with them. Deport anybody who marries a American or Legal Resident without getting a State Department clearance forst, and make those almost immpossible to get anyway. test evey woman of child bearing age for preganancy on arrival, and make their Visas short duration for everybody.
If we want to be a "Multicultuaral and Diverse" society we already have enough Muslims, Africans, Mexicans, and Central and South Americans. There are enough Chinese.
lets cut out their quotas and get some immigrants from Iceland, and Finland and Poland. We can do without Russians, Turks, and Gypos too.
We don't owe anybody shit. Cut off all the foriegn aid through the UN too. We will help our real friends, a little, but I'll be damned if the IMF and WHO is gonna distribute our generosity.
And next time some Muslim country has a earthquake or Tsunami or Civil War, let them take care of their own and see how that works out.
</div></div>

How about we just shoot drug users in this country in the back of the head? No profit in that for who, though?

Drug users cause the, drug traffic problem, the root problem/issue is deeper, within this country. Remove the root issue the rest is down hill.

<span style="color: #FF0000"> Players can try to B/S other players an the fans, but don't try to B/S the ref. </div></div>
How about we give each 28 days of inpatient rehab, and methadone therapy for 2 weeks if appropriate, and do it once. After that if they "reoffend" we do everybody a favor, including them, and shoot them in the head. That should pander to the sympathy of the tolerant, Leftists.</span>
How about we fire a single warning burst over the heads of illegal border crosses and if they run we fire for effect.
How about ICE teams travel around and round up all those who overstayed their visas.
How about ICE round up all those working illegally here. All of them, and turn them over to Sherrif Joe in Arizona to hold until they are deported. We'll send them a bill for their American Born children's tickets on the plane and they can pay it with the money they having been illegally sending "back home".
</div></div>

As a "Realist", I probrably shouldnt comment on a leftist thought, but simply put it wont work. The problem is a deeper, sociological one, fueled by inequality and lack of hope. You can put them in rehabs til the sun fails and it wont help. Mabey a remote island where they can do what they want with out devolveing society as a whole.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Close all crossing points to any but Americans (coming back) search every one of their vehicles. Deploy Apaches, Cobras, and troop crier helos with Army and marine squads assisting the Border Partol officer on board with arrests. Deploy Lav's and Bradleys with their Thermal sights and troops in the back.
And then build a multi layer wall and fence like Israel, with guard towers and cameras and Thermal imaging. If the Indian reservations don't like it tough. They are deeply involved in the smuggling anyway.
Screw "Free Trade" that steals our jobs. Screw "Good Neighbors" that invade our country, flout our laws, smuggle in drugs, and steal from our citizens.
Deport anybody who has a kid born in America and is illegal. They can leave the kid in Foster Care ofr take it with them. Deport anybody who marries a American or Legal Resident without getting a State Department clearance forst, and make those almost immpossible to get anyway. test evey woman of child bearing age for preganancy on arrival, and make their Visas short duration for everybody.
If we want to be a "Multicultuaral and Diverse" society we already have enough Muslims, Africans, Mexicans, and Central and South Americans. There are enough Chinese.
lets cut out their quotas and get some immigrants from Iceland, and Finland and Poland. We can do without Russians, Turks, and Gypos too.
We don't owe anybody shit. Cut off all the foriegn aid through the UN too. We will help our real friends, a little, but I'll be damned if the IMF and WHO is gonna distribute our generosity.
And next time some Muslim country has a earthquake or Tsunami or Civil War, let them take care of their own and see how that works out.
</div></div>

How about we just shoot drug users in this country in the back of the head? No profit in that for who, though?

Drug users cause the, drug traffic problem, the root problem/issue is deeper, within this country. Remove the root issue the rest is down hill.

<span style="color: #FF0000"> Players can try to B/S other players an the fans, but don't try to B/S the ref. </div></div>
How about we give each 28 days of inpatient rehab, and methadone therapy for 2 weeks if appropriate, and do it once. After that if they "reoffend" we do everybody a favor, including them, and shoot them in the head. That should pander to the sympathy of the tolerant, Leftists.</span>
How about we fire a single warning burst over the heads of illegal border crosses and if they run we fire for effect.
How about ICE teams travel around and round up all those who overstayed their visas.
How about ICE round up all those working illegally here. All of them, and turn them over to Sherrif Joe in Arizona to hold until they are deported. We'll send them a bill for their American Born children's tickets on the plane and they can pay it with the money they having been illegally sending "back home".
</div></div>

As a "Realist", I probrably shouldnt comment on a leftist thought, but simply put it wont work. The problem is a deeper, sociological one, fueled by inequality and lack of hope. You can put them in rehabs til the sun fails and it wont help. Mabey a remote island where they can do what they want with out devolveing society as a whole. </div></div>
How about we send all the drug addicts across the border to mexico, one way tickets, no return? The drugs are cheap down there, and they should have no trouble finding employment in Meth labs and Opium and marijuana farms.
Or we could send all the drug addicts to your friends in Gaza. The Jihaidist Muslims there know how to handle them. You could be a chaperone!
 
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Ahhh because they are American citizens and even though they do not live up to the high ideals that have inspired generations they still have Constitutional rights.

Problem with some is they only want their rights, they are more than happy to deny other Americans those same rights for conduct they don't agree with.

Civility isn't called for here, it is often the mask behind which ugly and evil lurk. Reason and Remembrance that this is a democracy not the Dominion of Bigots would be nice.

Shipping people we don't like out doesn't fix the problem, as some have noticed, it hasn't helped Mexico
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Immorteq</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Haha Donttrytorun, you got some serious issues!

You and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik </div></div>

Interesting comparison. A lot of similarities.

By the way, Donttry, sorry if my sig offended. Changed it just for you.
 
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Don't love the United States? Get the fuck out. If the liberals didn't ruin the country, we'd PUSH you out. So to those whom dislike our country, be sure to thank the liberal next to you, be it at the movie theater, Applebee's or in a dentist's office. They have paved the way to your sense of "entitlement" and your ability to live here.

But don't forget, there remain MANY that love this country and WILL defend it, even when our government will not.

Of course this is a general point of view as I doubt many illegals nor liberals read this forum all too often.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Close all crossing points to any but Americans (coming back) search every one of their vehicles. Deploy Apaches, Cobras, and troop crier helos with Army and marine squads assisting the Border Partol officer on board with arrests. Deploy Lav's and Bradleys with their Thermal sights and troops in the back.
And then build a multi layer wall and fence like Israel, with guard towers and cameras and Thermal imaging. If the Indian reservations don't like it tough. They are deeply involved in the smuggling anyway.
Screw "Free Trade" that steals our jobs. Screw "Good Neighbors" that invade our country, flout our laws, smuggle in drugs, and steal from our citizens.
Deport anybody who has a kid born in America and is illegal. They can leave the kid in Foster Care ofr take it with them. Deport anybody who marries a American or Legal Resident without getting a State Department clearance forst, and make those almost immpossible to get anyway. test evey woman of child bearing age for preganancy on arrival, and make their Visas short duration for everybody.
If we want to be a "Multicultuaral and Diverse" society we already have enough Muslims, Africans, Mexicans, and Central and South Americans. There are enough Chinese.
lets cut out their quotas and get some immigrants from Iceland, and Finland and Poland. We can do without Russians, Turks, and Gypos too.
We don't owe anybody shit. Cut off all the foriegn aid through the UN too. We will help our real friends, a little, but I'll be damned if the IMF and WHO is gonna distribute our generosity.
And next time some Muslim country has a earthquake or Tsunami or Civil War, let them take care of their own and see how that works out.
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<span style="color: #FF0000">How about we just shoot drug users in this country in the back of the head? </span> No profit in that for who, though?

Drug users cause the, drug traffic problem, the root problem/issue is deeper, within this country. Remove the root issue the rest is down hill.

Players can try to B/S other players an the fans, but don't try to B/S the ref. </div></div>

Sounds like good policy. Lets start with those who use the most dangerous drug, ignorance, then alcohol, tobacco, and on down the list. Thin out the population, and create a lot of new job openings.
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Don't forget about caffeine too, and all those hypocritical pieces of shit jacked out of their mind on caffeine while sinmultaneously talking about "dem derr drug users is scum".
 
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Cocaine, Marijuana, Meth, X, and Heroin Abuse are illegal by Federal law. And with good reason. if you don't like it go to Mexico. I'm sure you'll be much happier there. Mexico fences, walls, and guards it's southern border with military. We should do the same. I'm not saying deport only mexican illegals, and their anchor babies if they want, I'm saying deport ever single one from whatever country they are from, regardless if they shit out a kid here or "married" somebody without getting a State Dept clearance first.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bizill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't love the United States? Get the fuck out. </div></div>

Odds are pretty good that someone had the same thing to say to one of your ancestors (an illegal immigrant at some point). Ignorance cloaked in patriotism is still ignorance.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JSTARSZ</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> But, it has great entertainment value. </div></div>

I've seen dung beetles fighting over a rolled up turd, and that had more entertainment value.

This looks more like the skinhead rally I passed in Nurnberg(10 Hitler youth and growing, think Flintstones vitamin song), when I was in Germany, and had the same message as the turd.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

By the way, Donttry, sorry if my sig offended. Changed it just for you. </div></div>
Put that <span style="font-weight: bold">"Free Gaza"</span> shit back on your sig line, so everybody who has fought and suffered at the hands of Islamic terrorists will know you are a supporter of them. Obviously you have no personal experience with them, like I did, and many of us here have.
Either you embrace totalitarian mysoginistic and intolerant dictates of Islamic Jihad, or you just hate Jews, or both. Which is it?
No sane person would ever consider sympathy for Hamas and side with them against the only democracy in the Middle East.
Gaza was Egypt until 67, and they don't want it because it's full of dirtball palestinians. The West Bank was Jordan, but they don't want it because it's...full of dirtball palestinians. Jordan, Egypt, lebanon, and Syria all deny citizenship to Palestinians. So does.....every other Arab and Muslim country. Why is that?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Immorteq</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bizill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't love the United States? Get the fuck out. </div></div>

Odds are pretty good that someone had the same thing to say to one of your ancestors (an illegal immigrant at some point). Ignorance cloaked in patriotism is still ignorance. </div></div>

No illegals to the United States in my ancestry.

Am I correct to assume that by your comment you are placating the anti-American type? I'd say so.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Close all crossing points to any but Americans (coming back) search every one of their vehicles. Deploy Apaches, Cobras, and troop crier helos with Army and marine squads assisting the Border Partol officer on board with arrests. Deploy Lav's and Bradleys with their Thermal sights and troops in the back.
And then build a multi layer wall and fence like Israel, with guard towers and cameras and Thermal imaging. If the Indian reservations don't like it tough. They are deeply involved in the smuggling anyway.
Screw "Free Trade" that steals our jobs. Screw "Good Neighbors" that invade our country, flout our laws, smuggle in drugs, and steal from our citizens.
Deport anybody who has a kid born in America and is illegal. They can leave the kid in Foster Care ofr take it with them. Deport anybody who marries a American or Legal Resident without getting a State Department clearance forst, and make those almost immpossible to get anyway. test evey woman of child bearing age for preganancy on arrival, and make their Visas short duration for everybody.
If we want to be a "Multicultuaral and Diverse" society we already have enough Muslims, Africans, Mexicans, and Central and South Americans. There are enough Chinese.
lets cut out their quotas and get some immigrants from Iceland, and Finland and Poland. We can do without Russians, Turks, and Gypos too.
We don't owe anybody shit. Cut off all the foriegn aid through the UN too. We will help our real friends, a little, but I'll be damned if the IMF and WHO is gonna distribute our generosity.
And next time some Muslim country has a earthquake or Tsunami or Civil War, let them take care of their own and see how that works out.
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<span style="color: #FF0000">How about we just shoot drug users in this country in the back of the head? </span> No profit in that for who, though?

Drug users cause the, drug traffic problem, the root problem/issue is deeper, within this country. Remove the root issue the rest is down hill.

Players can try to B/S other players an the fans, but don't try to B/S the ref. </div></div>

Sounds like good policy. Lets start with those who use the most dangerous drug, ignorance, then alcohol, tobacco, and on down the list. Thin out the population, and create a lot of new job openings.
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WOW!! "Most Dangerous Drug, ignorance, ...alcohol tobacco"??? Are you serious? One thing you have right, is ignorance!!! If you believe tobacco is as bad as Heroin, well enough said. My guess is at least 75% of all High School Seniors have had Alcohol, I hope not 75% have tried Crack, or Heroin-again ignorance.
 
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BTW who's up for a Group Buy on popcorn?
 
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Anybody who has been high on weed knows why marijuana is illegal. Do you want your heart surgeon to be a pothead? Do you want him or her to smoke a joint at lunch and replace your kid's heart valve at 1 PM? Do you want the guy wiring the electricity in your home to be getting high 3 or 4 times a day? How about you Airline Pilot? Or you teenage kid while driving around at night? Do you want the guy replacing the wheel bearings on your car to be stoned?
People in responsible jobs can't get high on weed because they are irresponsible if they do. Even when not "high" they are still spacey, though they would deny it and laugh it off (like everything else).
I have way too much experience with weed and other shit to condone it's legalization and acceptance in the workplace. many employers require a drug test for any incident on the job where a accident of some kind occurred. They should. Most of the employers I know have a zero tolerance policy for drugs, not just for "risk management" but because potheads have much lower productivity and lower quality of output. A State may ignore Federal law and "legalize" it, but your employer is under no obligation to do it. You want a paycheck, then don't smoke weed. End of story. You can take that card from the clinic to the Welfare line.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donttrytorun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody who has been high on weed knows why marijuana is illegal. Do you want your heart surgeon to be a pothead? Do you want him or her to smoke a joint at lunch and replace your kid's heart valve at 1 PM? Do you want the guy wiring the electricity in your home to be getting high 3 or 4 times a day? How about you Airline Pilot? Or you teenage kid while driving around at night? Do you want the guy replacing the wheel bearings on your car to be stoned?
People in responsible jobs can't get high on weed because they are irresponsible if they do. Even when not "high" they are still spacey, though they would deny it and laugh it off (like everything else).
I have way too much experience with weed and other shit to condone it's legalization and acceptance in the workplace. many employers require a drug test for any incident on the job where a accident of some kind occurred. They should. Most of the employers I know have a zero tolerance policy for drugs, not just for "risk management" but because potheads have much lower productivity and lower quality of output. A State may ignore Federal law and "legalize" it, but your employer is under no obligation to do it. You want a paycheck, then don't smoke weed. End of story. You can take that card from the clinic to the Welfare line. </div></div>

Bullshit! No company gives a shit if you drink like a fish as long as you're sober for work! As far as drug test go they are often required to by insurance companies. I've met some very good workers who where total stoners but always perfectly sober at work!You're arguing about responsibility at this point, not drug use.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr blasty</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bullshit! No company gives a shit if you drink like a fish as long as you're sober for work! As far as drug test go they are often required to by insurance companies. I've met some very good workers who where total stoners but always perfectly sober at work!You're arguing about responsibility at this point, not drug use. </div></div>
Bullshit! No job that actually requires precision, productivity, and reliability tolerates alcohol abuse or drug use that effects the job. I know from personal experience tat once a stoner stops smoking weed a whole different person is there.
I have had subordinates getting high on the job, and stinking of weed coming in the door. I have also found them smoking crack on the job. They couldn't restrain themselves. Hopefully they learned a valuable lesson that was useful at the next job they found.
It you are using company equipment, or driving a copany vehicle, or doing anything that puts yourself (on the job), your coworkers, your clients, or your products at risk then you need to get your paycheck somewhere else. If you don't like that, throw your tantrum outside on the sidewalk, because dopers without impulse control have no business in the workplace.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr blasty</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bullshit! No company gives a shit if you drink like a fish as long as you're sober for work! </div></div>

You don't even know how far off base you are with that statement. Plenty of 3 letters and many a civi company will not even hire you for certain jobs, if they even <span style="font-weight: bold">Suspect</span> you drink. There are many <span style="font-weight: bold">Jobs</span> that require you to be on call an available for duty 24/7/365.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rrflyer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Souns like mexico needs to hire some of our overseas contractors and give 'em the green light. </div></div>


One thing Americans don't understand is the long history of the partnership between the Mexican Government and the drug cartels. These bonds have been very tight from the 1940's through today.

Moreover, the more pathetic the crooks that run Mexico can make the Nation look to the USA - the more money they can extract from them. Which means the more money those Mexican leaders can steal.

The US doesn't have serious intent to intervene either. Too many issues aside from the fact that it is an effort to parent a failed nation state. Some of those is the inter connectivity of illegal narcotics to our economy. Both the under ground econ and above ground econs. Not to mention all of the other spin off benefits for those that want to manipulate a situation - from the Gun issue, to the illegal alien / amnesty issue; NAFTA / CAFTA / erosion of boarders in the name of 'free trade', etc, etc...

It is kabuki theater at the expense of the common man on both sides of the boarder.


Good luck
 
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There are some REAL winners in this thread...... entertaining read. I can't believe you guys are still arguiing with the ignorant.... you can't fix stupid.
 
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Don't understand how the current political climate turns into such hate. Blaming Mexicans for our failings and claiming the solution is killing people for the very thing our ancestors participated in to build this country, just makes me shake my head. You folks are the ones that make it so easy to paint people as crackpots and dismiss intelligent debate. Get a grip on your hatred and anger issues.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Immorteq</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't understand how the current political climate turns into such hate. Blaming Mexicans for our failings and claiming the solution is killing people for the very thing our ancestors participated in to build this country, just makes me shake my head. You folks are the ones that make it so easy to paint people as crackpots and dismiss intelligent debate. Get a grip on your hatred and anger issues. </div></div>
This is one wise and well thought out response!! immorteq says, "don't blame the drug dealer-blame the user, don't blame the child porno produce, blame his customer, don't blame those that sell tainted meat-blame those people that don't cook it correctly, etc. etc. etc. what a wise man, maybe we should all listen to more of this wisdom.
 
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Shooting people is always the right answer. Thanks for making this site look like a home for nutjobs. Your friends and neighbors are guilty of exactly what you condemn Mexicans for, start killing them for it. Fascists.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Immorteq</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Shooting people is always the right answer. Thanks for making this site look like a home for nutjobs. Your friends and neighbors are guilty of exactly what you condemn Mexicans for, start killing them for it. Fascists. </div></div>

Yeah, sort of my take on a few posters, too. Seems that some rules could have been applied here.