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military/police sniper bullets
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Re: military/police sniper bullets
Federal's TRU, and HSM "match" are choices I've seen around here.
Federal's TRU, and HSM "match" are choices I've seen around here.
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M118LR is a 175smk. The Navy released a spec for 300 win mag that uses the 220 smk.
M118LR is a 175smk. The Navy released a spec for 300 win mag that uses the 220 smk.
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A friend of mine at a local agency supply says Federal GMM is their biggest seller to the local agencies.
A friend of mine at a local agency supply says Federal GMM is their biggest seller to the local agencies.
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99% of police snipers will be using 168gr Sierra matchkings in one loading or another. Smarter agencies will use bonded core stuff but most are still using GMM or some companys match round.
99% of police snipers will be using 168gr Sierra matchkings in one loading or another. Smarter agencies will use bonded core stuff but most are still using GMM or some companys match round.
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I got a thousands of .224" 60 gr Hornady TAP [tactical and police] bullets for 3 cents each.
These are not accurate bullets.
If a .223 can get 1" 5 shot groups at 100y with Vmax bullets, expect 2" groups with the TAP bullets.
I have shot ground squirrels with them with wimpy 13 gr Blue Dot loads at 2500 fps muzzle, and they do expand, and will cut a ground squirrel in half at 100 yards, but they do not expand like Vmax and blow the animal to many pieces.
I got a thousands of .224" 60 gr Hornady TAP [tactical and police] bullets for 3 cents each.
These are not accurate bullets.
If a .223 can get 1" 5 shot groups at 100y with Vmax bullets, expect 2" groups with the TAP bullets.
I have shot ground squirrels with them with wimpy 13 gr Blue Dot loads at 2500 fps muzzle, and they do expand, and will cut a ground squirrel in half at 100 yards, but they do not expand like Vmax and blow the animal to many pieces.
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The primary ammo at my dept is 168 FGMM but we keep 110 and 155 tap on hand as well.
The primary ammo at my dept is 168 FGMM but we keep 110 and 155 tap on hand as well.
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Military uses M118LR 175SMK for their .308 loadings. The military also uses the 300 WM and .50 BMG. I think the .50 has the Hornady AMAX for their match rounds, and the 300WM uses a 220gr MK.
Police have diffrent requirements. They will use a brand/weight/type of bulletthat meats the agency requirements. Usually limited to .223 and .308 the bullet is usually mass produced for liability purposes. I do believe that the Secret Service either use to or still does use the 7mm. Pistol, rifle/sniper rifle ammo covers a wide variety of brands. The agency I use to work for issues Win Ranger for pistol and AR-15 ammo, and FGMM for the swats .308 sniper rifle.
Military uses M118LR 175SMK for their .308 loadings. The military also uses the 300 WM and .50 BMG. I think the .50 has the Hornady AMAX for their match rounds, and the 300WM uses a 220gr MK.
Police have diffrent requirements. They will use a brand/weight/type of bulletthat meats the agency requirements. Usually limited to .223 and .308 the bullet is usually mass produced for liability purposes. I do believe that the Secret Service either use to or still does use the 7mm. Pistol, rifle/sniper rifle ammo covers a wide variety of brands. The agency I use to work for issues Win Ranger for pistol and AR-15 ammo, and FGMM for the swats .308 sniper rifle.
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The majority of departments in Indiana are using Federal Gold Metal Match 168gr.
Some are using the various Hornady TAP loads. We will be testing them soon (hopefully) to see if we should make the switch. Not because of any accuracy gain (FGMM is fully capable in that aspect), but because the TAP is designed for critters instead of paper.
Unless something has changed greatly Infantry Snipers use the M118LR for the 7.62mm weapons. When I left the M82A1A was setup to shoot the Raufoss round. I cannot recall the designation for it, but I believe it is Mk211. It makes it easy to spot the impacts at extremely long range. We still shot de-linked ball ammo for most training.
The majority of departments in Indiana are using Federal Gold Metal Match 168gr.
Some are using the various Hornady TAP loads. We will be testing them soon (hopefully) to see if we should make the switch. Not because of any accuracy gain (FGMM is fully capable in that aspect), but because the TAP is designed for critters instead of paper.
Unless something has changed greatly Infantry Snipers use the M118LR for the 7.62mm weapons. When I left the M82A1A was setup to shoot the Raufoss round. I cannot recall the designation for it, but I believe it is Mk211. It makes it easy to spot the impacts at extremely long range. We still shot de-linked ball ammo for most training.
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Different police agencies will have different policies on what ammo they can/cant use. Alot of big city SWAT teams are picky about what ammo they use. Their biggest fear is not the criminal, its the lawyers.. Over penetration, a bullet that causes extreme bodily damage, handloads, etc are all main concerns..
Different police agencies will have different policies on what ammo they can/cant use. Alot of big city SWAT teams are picky about what ammo they use. Their biggest fear is not the criminal, its the lawyers.. Over penetration, a bullet that causes extreme bodily damage, handloads, etc are all main concerns..
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whats sad is that my dads dept. doesnt even care. they just go out and buy a box of 223 or 308. they have two rifles and ive shot both of them.....needless to say.....my $600 savage shots a hundred times better than what they got. i actually shoot better than their sniper does, ive seen his targets and reports from practice.
whats sad is that my dads dept. doesnt even care. they just go out and buy a box of 223 or 308. they have two rifles and ive shot both of them.....needless to say.....my $600 savage shots a hundred times better than what they got. i actually shoot better than their sniper does, ive seen his targets and reports from practice.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: supra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">whats sad is that my dads dept. doesnt even care. they just go out and buy a box of 223 or 308. they have two rifles and ive shot both of them.....needless to say.....my $600 savage shots a hundred times better than what they got. i actually shoot better than their sniper does, ive seen his targets and reports from practice.</div></div> Looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen?
I wouldn't want the miss (not LE just thinking about this post).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: supra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">whats sad is that my dads dept. doesnt even care. they just go out and buy a box of 223 or 308. they have two rifles and ive shot both of them.....needless to say.....my $600 savage shots a hundred times better than what they got. i actually shoot better than their sniper does, ive seen his targets and reports from practice.</div></div> Looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen?
I wouldn't want the miss (not LE just thinking about this post).
Re: military/police sniper bullets
In New England most police use Hornady TAP with the a max bullet, black hills with the a max, and federal gold match.
In New England most police use Hornady TAP with the a max bullet, black hills with the a max, and federal gold match.
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Most in this area shoot TAP. They make light barrier round that work well on doors and auto glass as well as a very good precision round. Hope this helps. Steve.
Most in this area shoot TAP. They make light barrier round that work well on doors and auto glass as well as a very good precision round. Hope this helps. Steve.
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