Need a little help guys. What would be a good .22 ammo that would stay subsonic although it doesn't have to be labeled as subsonic. I have tried the remington subsonic and the aguila subsonic both 38 gr. The aguila is ok and the remington shoots decent just isn't very consistent as far as velocity goes. You can tell that some are a little hotter than others by sound and hits on target. I am shooting this out of a savage Mark II with a 18 inch barrel and suppressor. I know some target ammo stays subsonic so anyone have any suggestions of what to try. I hear a lot about wolf does it stay subsonic.
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Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subsonic
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Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subsonic
Most of us with the savages are having good luck with SK Match or Wolf Match Target (the cheaper wolf) not the match extra or what ever its called though .22's can be weird so by all means try a box of the more $$$ wolf. Its like a buck or 2 more per box so not a huge deal.
Eley generally works good as a standard, but once again in .22's u never know till u try it most of the time.
Lapua worked pretty well in my savage. SK ,WOLF ,and Lapua all are made at the same factory, and all share the same headstamp. The Lapua can get pretty costly though .12-30$$$ per box of 50 depending on what grade u get.
Hope this helps.
As a reference last winter shooting SK Match I was able to get a lot of 5 shot .5-.6 ctc groups at 94yds shooting off a bipod and sandsock. Now that its warm out seems I get groups closer to .6-.9 Still not too bad for a cheap rifle.
good luck.
Most of us with the savages are having good luck with SK Match or Wolf Match Target (the cheaper wolf) not the match extra or what ever its called though .22's can be weird so by all means try a box of the more $$$ wolf. Its like a buck or 2 more per box so not a huge deal.
Eley generally works good as a standard, but once again in .22's u never know till u try it most of the time.
Lapua worked pretty well in my savage. SK ,WOLF ,and Lapua all are made at the same factory, and all share the same headstamp. The Lapua can get pretty costly though .12-30$$$ per box of 50 depending on what grade u get.
Hope this helps.
As a reference last winter shooting SK Match I was able to get a lot of 5 shot .5-.6 ctc groups at 94yds shooting off a bipod and sandsock. Now that its warm out seems I get groups closer to .6-.9 Still not too bad for a cheap rifle.
good luck.
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subsonic
oh yeah one other thing. With wolf and SK being a bit cheaper target ammo lot by lot vels can vary a bit. Last time I tested wolf was running 1080-1100. Extremes would hit as high as 1120 (almost breaking sound barrier at my alt),but didn't have too many of those. The SK was doing about 1080 with a sd of about 10-15fps.
Seems to vary lot to lot though about which one is better.
oh yeah one other thing. With wolf and SK being a bit cheaper target ammo lot by lot vels can vary a bit. Last time I tested wolf was running 1080-1100. Extremes would hit as high as 1120 (almost breaking sound barrier at my alt),but didn't have too many of those. The SK was doing about 1080 with a sd of about 10-15fps.
Seems to vary lot to lot though about which one is better.
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subsonic
here is the list I have compiled so far.
.22 Long Rifle (Rimfire) Subsonic Ammunition
Manufacture..... Manufacture's listed MV in FPS
Aguila-Mexico
SSS Sniper Sub Sonic ......950
.22 L.R Subsonic Hollow Point ......1025
.22 L.R Subsonic Solid Point .....1025
.22L.R. Match Rifle .....1080
.22L.R. Match Pistol ......1080
.22 Golden Eagle ......1100
CCI-USA
Standard Velocity ......1070
Subsonic HP .....1050
Green Tag ......1070
Pistol Match .....1070
Eley-England
Tenex ......1085
Tenex Pistol ......1030
Match ......1085
Match OSP ......1030
Match Pistol .....1000
Team ......1085
Club ......1085
Sport-Mexico .....1085
Subsonic Hollow .....1065
Federal-USA
UM22 .....1080
922A .....1080
711B ......1080
Fiocchi-Italy
Rifle Match(Exacta Carbina) 22SM320 .....1050
Rapid Fire Pistol Super Match22SM280 .....950
Match Training 22M320 .....1050
Lapua-Finland
X-ACT ......1073
Midas+ ......1073
Center-X ......1073
Pistol King ......958
Pistol OSP ......909
Remington-England/USA
Eley/Match EPS .....1085
Eley/Club Extra .....1085
Eley/Target Rifle .....1085
Subsonic .....1050
CBee ......740
RWS-Germany
R50 ......1082
Special Match ......1082
Super Pistol 250 ......935
R25 .....623
Rifle Match ......1082
Pistol Match Super Clean ......902
Pistol Match ......935
Pistol C25 ......869
Target Rifle ......1082
Target Pistol ......935
Club ......1082
Z-Lang ......770
Subsonic ......1033
SK-Germany
Rifle Match ......1033
Pistol Match ......1050
Standard Plus .......1050
Magazine .22 ......1050
Z Reduced Charge ......853
Subsonic ......1033
Winchester-USA
X22LRSUBA .....1065
Wolf-Germany
Match Target ......1050
Match Extra ......1050
here is the list I have compiled so far.
.22 Long Rifle (Rimfire) Subsonic Ammunition
Manufacture..... Manufacture's listed MV in FPS
Aguila-Mexico
SSS Sniper Sub Sonic ......950
.22 L.R Subsonic Hollow Point ......1025
.22 L.R Subsonic Solid Point .....1025
.22L.R. Match Rifle .....1080
.22L.R. Match Pistol ......1080
.22 Golden Eagle ......1100
CCI-USA
Standard Velocity ......1070
Subsonic HP .....1050
Green Tag ......1070
Pistol Match .....1070
Eley-England
Tenex ......1085
Tenex Pistol ......1030
Match ......1085
Match OSP ......1030
Match Pistol .....1000
Team ......1085
Club ......1085
Sport-Mexico .....1085
Subsonic Hollow .....1065
Federal-USA
UM22 .....1080
922A .....1080
711B ......1080
Fiocchi-Italy
Rifle Match(Exacta Carbina) 22SM320 .....1050
Rapid Fire Pistol Super Match22SM280 .....950
Match Training 22M320 .....1050
Lapua-Finland
X-ACT ......1073
Midas+ ......1073
Center-X ......1073
Pistol King ......958
Pistol OSP ......909
Remington-England/USA
Eley/Match EPS .....1085
Eley/Club Extra .....1085
Eley/Target Rifle .....1085
Subsonic .....1050
CBee ......740
RWS-Germany
R50 ......1082
Special Match ......1082
Super Pistol 250 ......935
R25 .....623
Rifle Match ......1082
Pistol Match Super Clean ......902
Pistol Match ......935
Pistol C25 ......869
Target Rifle ......1082
Target Pistol ......935
Club ......1082
Z-Lang ......770
Subsonic ......1033
SK-Germany
Rifle Match ......1033
Pistol Match ......1050
Standard Plus .......1050
Magazine .22 ......1050
Z Reduced Charge ......853
Subsonic ......1033
Winchester-USA
X22LRSUBA .....1065
Wolf-Germany
Match Target ......1050
Match Extra ......1050
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subsonic
one more thing. The speed of sound.
The Speed of Sound in Air.
(The speed of sound is only a factor of Air Temp. Altitude/Air pressure is not a factor)
The Speed of Sound in air at 0% relative humidity.
Air Temperature in Fahrenheit.....Speed of Sound in air in Feet Per Second
-40F...... 1004 FPS
-20F ......1028 FPS
0F ......1051 FPS
10F .....1062 FPS
20F ......1074 FPS
30F .....1085 FPS
40F .....1096 FPS
50F .....1106 FPS
60F .....1117 FPS
70F .....1128 FPS
80F ......1138 FPS
90F .....1149 FPS
100F .....1159 FPS
110F .....1169 FPS
120F ....1180 FPS
130F .....1190 FPS
140F .....1200 FPS
one more thing. The speed of sound.
The Speed of Sound in Air.
(The speed of sound is only a factor of Air Temp. Altitude/Air pressure is not a factor)
The Speed of Sound in air at 0% relative humidity.
Air Temperature in Fahrenheit.....Speed of Sound in air in Feet Per Second
-40F...... 1004 FPS
-20F ......1028 FPS
0F ......1051 FPS
10F .....1062 FPS
20F ......1074 FPS
30F .....1085 FPS
40F .....1096 FPS
50F .....1106 FPS
60F .....1117 FPS
70F .....1128 FPS
80F ......1138 FPS
90F .....1149 FPS
100F .....1159 FPS
110F .....1169 FPS
120F ....1180 FPS
130F .....1190 FPS
140F .....1200 FPS
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subsonic
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shiraz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">one more thing. The speed of sound.
The Speed of Sound in Air.
(The speed of sound is only a factor of Air Temp. Altitude/Air pressure is not a factor)
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ha ha my bad. its late and im tired. Thanks for setting him straight and correcting my dumb butt
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shiraz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">one more thing. The speed of sound.
The Speed of Sound in Air.
(The speed of sound is only a factor of Air Temp. Altitude/Air pressure is not a factor)
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ha ha my bad. its late and im tired. Thanks for setting him straight and correcting my dumb butt
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subsonic
Thanks guys, I found some Wolf Match for $49/500 so went ahead and ordered a 100 rnds to try. I'll see how they do and see if I can find some sk match to try also. I have shot some of the CCI subsonic but its been a while and at the time I really wasn't trying to do any accuracy testing. In fact I think I just shot it out of my .22 ar15. My biggest objective is trying to keep them subsonic while shooting suppressed, but at the same time I want accuracy also. I will be shooting these at just shy of 100yrds. So I'll see how it goes.
Thanks guys, I found some Wolf Match for $49/500 so went ahead and ordered a 100 rnds to try. I'll see how they do and see if I can find some sk match to try also. I have shot some of the CCI subsonic but its been a while and at the time I really wasn't trying to do any accuracy testing. In fact I think I just shot it out of my .22 ar15. My biggest objective is trying to keep them subsonic while shooting suppressed, but at the same time I want accuracy also. I will be shooting these at just shy of 100yrds. So I'll see how it goes.
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subsonic
RWS R25 is Short for Rapid Fire Pistol.
The published velocity is from a pistol barrel.
From an 16" barrel, it's more like 800fps. FYI
RWS R25 is Short for Rapid Fire Pistol.
The published velocity is from a pistol barrel.
From an 16" barrel, it's more like 800fps. FYI
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subsonic
I think you will like the Wolf MT for what you have in mind.
I shoot them in suppressed Sako FinnFire, CZ Varmint, and several 10/22's and yes....they will cycle the bolt and still be below SOS.
Keith
I think you will like the Wolf MT for what you have in mind.
I shoot them in suppressed Sako FinnFire, CZ Varmint, and several 10/22's and yes....they will cycle the bolt and still be below SOS.
Keith
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subsonic
lots of 22 ammo stuff:22 ammo test threads
will be adding THIS thread to it also
lots of 22 ammo stuff:22 ammo test threads
will be adding THIS thread to it also
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subsonic
JDT...be aware that it may take 50 or more rounds of each different ammo to stabilize your barrel with the different lubes, powders and alloys. Clean between strings of each different cartridge and allow the barrel time to stabilize. To really tell what each will do in your rifle will likely require MORE than 100 rounds. So, before you order, be sure you have enough for a meaningful test...no reason to pay multiple HazMat fees. JMHO
JDT...be aware that it may take 50 or more rounds of each different ammo to stabilize your barrel with the different lubes, powders and alloys. Clean between strings of each different cartridge and allow the barrel time to stabilize. To really tell what each will do in your rifle will likely require MORE than 100 rounds. So, before you order, be sure you have enough for a meaningful test...no reason to pay multiple HazMat fees. JMHO
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subsonic
RWS subsonic is much slower than the others I've shot.
It has also been very consistent in velocity and accuracy in my rifles.
RWS subsonic is much slower than the others I've shot.
It has also been very consistent in velocity and accuracy in my rifles.
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subs
I used to like Federal 711B in several of my rifles until I tried it suppressed and found that about half of the rounds went supersonic - seemed to be very inconsistent in that regard.
I used to like Federal 711B in several of my rifles until I tried it suppressed and found that about half of the rounds went supersonic - seemed to be very inconsistent in that regard.
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subs
Well the brown truck dropped off my wolf match this afternoon so I shot a box of 50 before dark I was pretty impressed with it but only got to shoot from about 50 yards. I am more anxious to see how 100 yards does maybe I'll get a chance tomorrow. I can say that it seemed very consistent. I easily had 35 shots in a hole about the size of a quarter. I know it was only from 50 yards but still seemed a lot better than the other I've tried. Also, I picked up 1000 rnds of sk standard plus at a gun show this weekend. I know its not the match but figured I would try it anyway. Haven't tried any of the sk yet looks just like the wolf though.
Well the brown truck dropped off my wolf match this afternoon so I shot a box of 50 before dark I was pretty impressed with it but only got to shoot from about 50 yards. I am more anxious to see how 100 yards does maybe I'll get a chance tomorrow. I can say that it seemed very consistent. I easily had 35 shots in a hole about the size of a quarter. I know it was only from 50 yards but still seemed a lot better than the other I've tried. Also, I picked up 1000 rnds of sk standard plus at a gun show this weekend. I know its not the match but figured I would try it anyway. Haven't tried any of the sk yet looks just like the wolf though.
Re: Most accurate/consistent .22 ammo staying subs
SK-Germany
Rifle Match ......1033
Standard Plus .......1050
Wolf-Germany
Match Target ......1050
Match Extra ......1050
I've read SK Match is supposed to be same ammo as Wolf Extra but sure doesn't look like it.
SK-Germany
Rifle Match ......1033
Standard Plus .......1050
Wolf-Germany
Match Target ......1050
Match Extra ......1050
I've read SK Match is supposed to be same ammo as Wolf Extra but sure doesn't look like it.
