Sidearms & Scatterguns My first Glock, maybe.

jcdean

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I have become fond of communing with nature while carrying a carbine and a sidearm humping a crap ton of ammo at a full sprint in the Oklahoma summer. Been doing it with a 1911 and I am getting sick of carrying all the mags I need to keep the thing fed. So, I am ready to break down and buy me a Glock. Trouble is I am having trouble deciding between a 17 and a 34. I took a look at the LS package that Lone Wolf sells for the 17 and for a $100 more I could just buy another pistol. Opinions are welcome. I have shot both and I ain't bad with either one. They both have their charms.


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34 has my nod of the two for just about everything but concealed carry, which both are a bit big for IMO. I've got a 17 in my nightstand with Trijicon HD sights and a light on it as the old lady can shoot it pretty well too. I actually shot both just about as well, but the 34 has a longer sight radius and lighter factory trigger. Theoretically that should give the 34 a better advantage for shooting accurately, all other things being equal.

I don't think I'll ever personally see the need to upgrade enough on a Glock to go with that expensive of a package. YMMV however.
 
One thing to be careful of with the 34 is the slide opening. Ken Hackathorn told us about how crap can get into that opening, and literally shut the gun down, and even relayed a story he knew about where it happened in a SHTF situation. Just something to think about.
 
I have and shoot both. As far as a stand and shoot at matches, run and gun, it works awesome, quicker recoil recovery, less muzzle flip the 34 is the way to go. I never thought of junk getting into the slide barrel lock up through the opening but I guess it is possible in bad conditions. As far as carrying, the 17 works fine also. They both have the same carrying capacity. It sounds like you want an all purpose carry all day gun, if so the 17 probably is the choice. Gen 3 or 4.
 
The 34 come with a better trigger and extended mag release. I have a17 wishing I had a 34. Both are great I'm just parshal to a longer barrel and better trigger. If you can carry a 1911 the 34 would no problem
 
The same trigger can be had in the 17 with a $10 part and less than 5 minutes of work. The only main difference is the barrel length and slide cut. The extended parts and connector can all be added to the 17 for around $40. You can change all yourself.

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I can carry my current 1911 all day long and I do. Not even noticed any more. Hell, I don't need the dang thing, but I want one and just figuring out where to spend the money. Think I'll get the 34 and just be done with it. If I am going to have to crawl in the sticks and mud I'll slap some blue painters tape on top and be done.

Of course that G41 looks sweet and I reload a lot of 45 already... Hmmmmm......
 
Some people find the weight of the pistol and magazines more difficult to deal with because of the low quality belt/holster they use. Carrying a heavy ammo load and pistol is made much, MUCH easier if your belt is really stiff. The stiffness distributes the weight better, with less sag.

If carrying the extra magazines for the 1911 is a space issue, consider one of the police style magazine pouches that stacks two magazines on top of each other, and carries two of those side by side for a total of 4 extra magazines. Buying a new ammo pouch would be far cheaper than buying a new pistol.

Of course, 45 acp ammo is heavier than 9mm, but if you double the amount of 9mm ammo, you are getting weight back that way. A plastic glock with plastic magazines carrying 9mm ammo will be lighter than a steel framed 45 using steel magazines, but the overall weight difference may not be so great as to give up 45 for 9mm.

However, I accept pretty much any excuse for buying a new pistol if that is actually the goal.
 
Get the 34, and shoot the hell out of it, if you feel it needs cleaning throw it in the dish washer, plan on changing the sights, and if you want a easy trigger improvement do the 25 cent trigger job, while I guess its possible for something to enter the firearm through the slide cut out and cause FTF, it has never been an issue with my G35.
 
I carry a 17 in the winter and shoot a 34 year round, better trigger, sight radius etc best advice is keep it stock except for the crappy factory sights, those need to go instantly .
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I have a great belt or 10 and for the run and gun stuff I will be doing I wear a chest rig. It is just that with a single stack you are carrying two mags to do the job of one. Just a lot of manipulation that could go away with a few more rounds.