Sidearms & Scatterguns My first pistol: Glock 35

[Kevin1]

After doing some long range shooting I decided to purchase a Glock pistol. The need just grew in me for no apparent reason. I went with Glock because of the legendary reliability and the fact that it will last a life time. I almost have no experience in shooting pistols (shot a couple of time with rentals at the range) and I don’t exactly know what I’m going to be using it for now. All I know is that this WE I’ll try it out at the range.
I initially wanted a Glock 23 but last week I saw this Glock at a gun show and bought it instead. I figured the Glock 35 would be a good and versatile choice for any sort of usage (recommended highly by a friend for matches).

I have a few questions and would appreciate your input:

- Price: I bought it for $500. It was made in 2005 and comes with 2 mags (15 round each). I know it's not a deal but is this a reasonable price?

- Ammo: What kind of ammo would you recommend for different usages? I bought a box of Federal 155 HST but I believe it’s more for self defense. What would be my options for practice and possible matches? I do reload for my rifle but for now, I don’t plan on reloading as I’m not sure if it will be that cost efficient(or even provide that much more accuracy.

- Holster: Is there a reasonably price and versatile holster that you would recommend?


Some pics :

 

[callen3615]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> My main motivation to get my CHL is not so much for protection (I have never been even near a situation where I could even remotely feel any sort of threat) , but it’s rather to have my toy with me most of the time and be able to touch and feel it

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I dont even know what to say to that.

If youre not going to be serious about it, dont carry.

 

[callen3615]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

as to ammo, if youre just blasting shoot the cheapest stuff you can find, its a glock for god sakes. What kind of holster do you want? owb?

 

[turbo54]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> My main motivation to get my CHL is not so much for protection (I have never been even near a situation where I could even remotely feel any sort of threat) , but it’s rather to have my toy with me most of the time and be able to touch and feel it

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I dont even know what to say to that.

If youre not going to be serious about it, dont carry.

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+1

OP: It's not a fucking "toy", and you've got the completely WRONG mindset. YOU are the type that gives the rest of us responsible, good, law-abiding CPL holders a bad name.

Please do us all a favor and sell the pistol before you either get arrested and/or make a fool of yourself (and the rest of us), or worse yet, hurt somebody.

 

[Kevin1]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

I didn’t want to have a CHL debate but I’m going to.
I’m a responsible adult and if all gun owners and CHL holders were like me, I can guarantee that all types of guns would be legal and the law enforcement would go out of business.

With that said, let me shade some lights on my rational:

Fact 1: I don’t feel any threats in my every life. Therefore it’s going to be very unlikely that I would ever use my gun on anyone. Now there can always be that one time where I’ll need to use it (very unlikely).

Fact 2: I love guns. I love feeling them, looking at them, etc… My wife has even given names to each of my gun because I like spending quality time with them. Now I admit that this a little wired.

Fact3: We have established that I love guns and that I’ll probably never use it on anyone. Therefore if I start carrying the gun, it will only satisfy my love for guns (fact1).

It’s factual. What’s wrong with this reasoning? Why does this makes me irresponsible or makes you look bad?

 

[427Cobra]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

I have a 5-11\BladeTech ThumbDrive for my G35, I use it in matches where retention is required, and I use a BladeTech OWB for IDPA type matches where speed in the draw is required, I'm going to replace that holster with a OWB Comp-Tac in the near future. For pure blasting ammo 165grn Win White box is perfect, later if you want to shoot in the local pistol matches a 180gr pill going 725fps should be considered cheating but is well with in the rules, reloading for pistols is very easy, and since you already load for rifles you own most of what you need already. 500 for a G35 is a smoking deal BTW.

 

[VJJPunisher]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

carry your dildo in your pocket instead and fondle that as you walk through the mall, if a gang banger tries to mug you with a gun just cock wop him with your dildo of death

 

[KHOOKS]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

If I'd told my dad that I wanted to carry a firearm so I could look at it and touch it, I'd got told to cut the pockets out of my pants and that would give me something to play with.

Just joking but gun don't kill people people touching guns kill people. Well there I go again.

For real it just comes off as BAD the gun is a weapon and tool and should be used as such.

 

[IdahoMike]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

The point is that firearms are NOT toys. People with the attitude that guns ARE toys usually end up fucking the dog becoming the proverbial bad apple, spoiling the bunch.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
With that said, let me shade some lights on my rational:

Fact 1: I don’t feel any threats in my every life. Therefore it’s going to be very unlikely that I would ever use my gun on anyone. Now there can always be that one time where I’ll need to use it (very unlikely).

<span style="color: #FF0000">If you don't realize at least one possible threat in your every day routine, albeit may be small then your life must suck. Get out of your bubble and check out the world around you.</span>

Fact 2: I love guns. I love feeling them, looking at them, etc… My wife has even given names to each of my gun because I like spending quality time with them. Now I admit that this a little wired.

<span style="color: #FF0000">If all you want to do is "feel and look" at your guns then why carry concealed, or carry at all? Because when one carries responsibly, it goes in the holster and doesn't get touched or looked at all day long.</span>

Fact3: We have established that I love guns and that I’ll probably never use it on anyone. Therefore if I start carrying the gun, it will only satisfy my love for guns (fact1).

<span style="color: #FF0000">Okay we get it, you love guns and that carrying (rather finger fucking, staring at) in your mind will satisfy your love. But don't pack heat just so you can stare at your glock and fondle your cock. </span>
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[Kevin1]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">carry your dildo in your pocket instead and fondle that as you walk through the mall, if a gang banger tries to mug you with a gun just cock wop him with your dildo of death </div></div>

You win. I have decided to not pass my CHL. Just the thought of spending a whole day in a CHL classroom with guys like you has made up my mind. For sure I don’t want to make you look bad.

Now that I have renounced in getting my CHL (I'm serious), could we please stop focusing on the gun carry (I've edited my original post)?

 

[wnroscoe]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Kevin,

First, the G35 is a great pistol but, slightly long for concealed carry IMHO. The G23 would have been a better choice and is what I carry when not carrying a G21.

As far as not ever being in harms way, you've been there more than you realize. Most think they’re never in harms way but truth is, they are from time to time. Most go through life with blinders on or their head stuck in the sand or their ass. True, your chances are better to be involved in a major vehicle accident than a violent crime but, it’s not un-realistic to think one may be involved in a violent crime at some point.

I‘m not saying go through life expecting trouble with your hand on your gun but, you do need to be aware of your surroundings at all times, 24 / 7 / 365 / 360 degrees.

Look up the term "Situational Awareness" and get your mind right and wrapped around the concept before you carry. This isn’t a game and your G35 isn’t a toy. You / me / all of us are bound by some very strict guide lines / laws where firearms are concerned. Learn these laws and when you can/cant use a firearm for personal defense.

When I worked as an LEO I knew another LEO that had his side arm taken from him while he was on duty and locked in the trunk of his patrol vehicle with his radio. He’s lucky to be alive but, the suspect should have never been allowed to get that close and over power the officer. His mind was somewhere else and he defiantly wasn’t aware of his surroundings. He was caught way off guard and it only took a second.

Life and the dangers within are real, some play for keeps. If your not ready you’ll find yourself on the short end of the stick and that’s a lonely place to be.

 

[Mordamer]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Don't listen to the cranky old men who tell you that a gun isn't a toy.

The deal you got on the Glock 35 is a pretty fair deal. It is hard to say how much it is worth without knowing how many times it has been fired.

This is good practice ammo: http://www.sgammo.com/product/federal/10...j-ammo-xmae40r3

If you want, you can also find 22 round factory glock mags that will fit any .40 S&W glock.

The Glock 23 is the most popular .40 Glock, but the 35 is great for accuracy and target shooting.

 

[McCrazy]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

I agree with Roscoe ( thanks again for my rifle

) that the 35 is a bit big for concealed carry. I also usually use a 23 but that point is moot since you say you are no longer considering concealed carry. If you decide different later on then take size into account.

As for price $500 seems pretty good to me. MSRP is about $650, and yours looks lightly used.

 

[wnroscoe]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Dealer on G35 Gen 4 is $560ish, $650+NIB retail depending on where you buy. $500 used is fair.

Your welcome McCrazy, my pleasure. Hope it still drives tacks

 

[Sgt. 0811]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Hmmm. I agree you need to carry seriously, having said that.
Its a glock, run whatever ammo you can get threw it. It will work.cheaper the better. Dont confuse that with what to carry in it. Carry what your local pd uses. 500.00 is a decent price. Ive seen them as high as 650.00 and as low as 420.00 so not bad.
As far as holsters. There are two schools of thought. One is the buy twice method which is a good idea since this is your first handgun. Get a cheapo holster that seems like what you want, stay around 20 to 30 bucks, Ross is okay, uncle mikes ... That kind of thing. As you carry it and train with it figure out what you like and what you dont. Pay attention to the cant, where the gun sits, retention, the belt loops position then search for a quality holster that fits the criteria. On a good holster your looking at 50.00 to 100.00 for a production holster and between 70.00 and up for a custom. Most people (myself included) lean to custom makers. Either kydex or leather the quality will be much better.
The other method is just go for it for a good holster but you will probably buy twice in the long run anyway. Ive been shooting handguns since 1991 and Ive got a big ol box full of holsters in my closet. Holsters are one of those things where everyone is a little different.

 

[Lazlo]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Regarding your carry philosophy, read this, seriously:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situation_awareness

To amplify what the others have said, there's a good chance you've been in danger you didn't recognize. Having a CHL, it means you've now introduced a pistol to to this danger, that you may be ill-equipped to use.

Please don't take this lightly. A gun in untrained hands is a liability, and can easily cause more risk than it's worth. If unarmed, you'd simply throw your wallet at the threat and back away - you need to consider exactly what you might be prepared to do if armed, and then seriously consider if you've developed the mindset and muscle memory to carry out that action.

Bottom line: there's plenty of good training and literature on the subject, so don't reverse your decision based on the ramblings of strangers. Do your research, take some defensive training, and make up your own mind.

 

[rgkeller]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

G35 is a nice glove compartment and nightstand pistol.

It is capable of superb performance in USPSA and IDPA matches. Look up Sevigny and Vogel on Youtube.

Match ammo for USPSA would be something from Walmart in 180 grain. If you want better, call Atlanta Arms.

Competition holster and rig from Blade Tech are the most popular.

And get some better sights. Fixed from Sevigny. Adjustable from Dawson.

The trigger can be drastically improved with some educated polishing of internal parts.

It is a fine pistol.

 

[Kevin1]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

I wanted to thank all you guys for your valuable input.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Thanks to those who provided the requested info:</span>
I really appreciate your focus on the main subject. So basically I need to get the cheapest stuff (eventually a nicer holster or better sites and I appreciate the options you listed). Thanks. Love it.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Thanks to the idiots:</span>
I’m delaying my CHL as I can’t stand having anything to do with your type. <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Everybody has a purpose and you have served yours</span></span> buy focusing my attention on matches rather than carrying the gun and therefore making the Glock 35 the best option. Thank you… seriously.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Thanks to the wise guys:</span>
You helped me reconsider the whole CHL concept. I know that any idiot can obtain a CHL (see the above thank you note). But you helped me realize that I’m not currently in the right mindset. If I find myself in a situation where I have to choose between shooting a criminal vs letting him go with my car and wallet, I would choose the latter (even if I’m certain that if I use my weapon, I would have a %100 chance of overpowering him). With this mindset I now realize that carrying a weapon would be a liability. I’ll have to give myself some time to rethink the concept.

 

[wnroscoe]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Kevin,

You'll do fine. Self defense, lethal force isnt an easy decision and is one you have to have your mind made up on prior to being put in that position. It's something I used to dread when I worked as an LEO but, I knew if it came down to me vs the bad guy, the bad guy had to go. The right kind of training will help you get your head right on the topic. As an American Citizen you have the right to defend yourself and family.

As far as comps go, the G35 is money and you got a fair deal on it. When you decide to get your CHL look at a G23 with a cross breed IWB holster. It's a 40 too.

 

[427Cobra]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

I carry my G35 concealed, it may not be the best weapon to conceal but it can be done, so I say get your CHL, when the time comes for pistol comps PM me Kevin, in the DFW area there is a pistol match of some sort almost every weekend.

 

[wcb6092]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Realize this is a tool that can save your life and take another life. It is not a toy. Grow up a little and reevaluate why you will want to carry a weapon to start with.Tink about the consequences if you do have to use it. Your life will change. look at Zimmerman in Florida. This man's life will never be the same.It could happen to any of us.

 

[desertrat1979]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wanted to thank all you guys for your valuable input.


<span style="font-weight: bold">Thanks to the idiots:</span>
I&#146;m delaying my CHL as I can&#146;t stand having anything to do with your type. <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Everybody has a purpose and you have served yours</span></span> buy focusing my attention on matches rather than carrying the gun and therefore making the Glock 35 the best option. Thank you&#133; seriously.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Thanks to the wise guys:</span>
You helped me reconsider the whole CHL concept. I know that any idiot can obtain a CHL (see the above thank you note). But you helped me realize that I&#146;m not currently in the right mindset. If I find myself in a situation where I have to choose between shooting a criminal vs letting him go with my car and wallet, I would choose the latter (even if I&#146;m certain that if I use my weapon, I would have a %100 chance of overpowering him). With this mindset I now realize that carrying a weapon would be a liability. I&#146;ll have to give myself some time to rethink the concept.

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Dont get upset with those guys. Some of the comments might have been a bit rough, but I will admit, no one I know that CCs does it for the shear fact of wanting to feel the sidearm. In fact, most who do carry, like to do so in a manner where the dont even know its there unless they need it. Which kinda makes the G35 a bit harsh on the hips. I carry full size USP, and that gets a bit tough to conceal.

You admit to not having the right mindset, I am not going to disagree with you. But I will not discourage you from getting a CHL. Owning and carrying a pistol opens up a diffrent world to a lot of people. Perhaps when you get to seeing that world a bit more, CC will have a diffrent purpose.

 

[Kevin1]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

I tried the gun. It was rather positive. At 10 yards I was able to put 10 rounds in 10 seconds in the black center of a standard 25 y target(standard 25 yard pistol target with the black center of around 5.5 inches). Keep in mind that I have almost no experience with pistols.

I did notice a few problems:

The point of aim is the point of impact. This was a big issue when I tried to shoot the 5.5” target at 25 yards as the front sight was covering the whole target.

The last round would almost always jam (especially with wide open HP or flat FMJ) on my both mags. I suspect the mag springs might be the issue. I’ll drop an email to Glock to see what they think.

I tried the below ammo:
Federal 155g JHP (XM40HB): best accuracy.

Winchester 180g JHP (USA40JHP): Worst accuracy. But the HP was not very wide (so the last round never jammed).

Winchester 180g FMH (white box): just ok accuracy. Next time I’ll try Winchester 165 fmj

Thanks 427CobraI. I’ll drop you a PM when time comes. I watched some videos, and I’m definitely more interested in IPSC matches (not much attracted to IPDA).

Finally, for me all my guns are all toys (apparently only Mordamer shares my view). It’s like people having expensive cars. A Ferrari is toy, but if you’re not careful with it you can kill. If you want a tool keep the Ford F150.

 

[nobbie333actual]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevin1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> My main motivation to get my CHL is not so much for protection (I have never been even near a situation where I could even remotely feel any sort of threat) , but it’s rather to have my toy with me most of the time and be able to touch and feel it

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I dont even know what to say to that.

If youre not going to be serious about it, dont carry.

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what is wrong with carrying a long slide glock
here is a video of a friend of mine that carries a 34 in a crossbreed holster

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[Kevin1]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

I went back to the range and and was easily able to put all my rounds in a center mass target at 25 yards and relatively fast. I think I’m getting pretty proficient with my Glock and will be considering doing some matches like uspsa.

Now I’m going to start reloading (the cost of factory ammo really adds up) and ordered the below items.

Lee Deluxe Carbide 4-Die Set 40 S&W, 10mm Auto
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/622255/lee-deluxe-carbide-4-die-set-40-s-and-w-10mm-auto

Rainier LeadSafe Bullets 40 S&W, 10mm Auto (400 Diameter) 180 Grain Plated Round Nose Flat Point
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/397074/...0-bulk-packaged
Next week I’ll stop by Bass Pro to see what powder they available so I can start reloading.

427Cobra, once I'm comfortable with my reloading, I'll drop you a PM for DFW match info (thanks for your suggestion).

 

[Kevin1]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Can you tell from my pics how many rounds does this Glock has?
It looks pretty new to me.

BTW regarding the last round feeding issue I had, I think it’s resolved. I just whipped the magazine springs with a very lightly oiled patch and during my last session at the range I had 0 FTF.
I did dropped an email to Glock customer service for my feeding problem 10 days ago and they haven’t replied back. But my problem is now solved, so I don’t really care.

Lastly, I wanted to bring to your attention the following.
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">Natchez shooters supplies</span></span> has some great deals on mags ($19.99) so I order some other stuff.

-Magazines: G22 .40S&W 15RD MAGAZINE (MF22115). I ordered 2. I now have 4 X 15 rd magazines.
-A holster: SPTS COMBAT HOLSTR 17/19 9MM-.40 (HO17043)


I’m really trying to prepare myself for some matches and am dedicating most of my free time (I don’t have much) to this. I just feel guilty to dedicate all this time to my new toy and not pay enough attention to my other baby (my long range rifle)

 

[762frmafr]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Kevin1....you've done an office pop right?

 

[Veer_G]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

... gonna show her my glOck face ...

 

[hondaride450]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Everybody does a desk pop, its standard procedure.

 

[Ghogs Nightmare]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Powders try:
Longshot
Winchester 231
.
Those are my two preferred, 231 is a little more mild but does a nice job. LS does a good job an you get things going fairly quickly with it.

 

[Veer_G]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

 

[Mordamer]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

The wear on the barrel is the easiest way I know of to get an estimation of how much it has been used. I'd guess that in your pictures you have around 500 rounds down the barrel but that could be way off.

 

[Silver_Bullet_00]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

So to all of you own here giving the op a hard time, because he refered to his pistol as his toy. I'm sure you all have very serious reasons for the 1000 plus yard rifles that you have $3000+ in, or the many tacky-cool AR's with tons of light and lasers. Most of you shoot them because you like to have fun. It's sort of a metaphor, get over it people. He likes guns, like a child likes toys. I'm sure most of you are the same way. When a boy grows up to become a man, the toys just get more expensive, and require a higher level of competence and responsibility. While I or most of us would not refer to a firearm as a toy specifically, it is a piece of equipment that most of us enjoy, like a child enjoys a toy. It's OK to like firearms in this way, as long as you respect them, and abide or practice safety.

Some of you are so fast to look for the smallest little phrase someone says, and take it completely out of context, or take it to serious. Good Gosh People, lighten up!! George Patton felt like this guy. He loved to just have his revolver on his side as a decorative outfit to show off, (made him feel better).

 

[robbf213]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Good gun and you got a decent price on it as well. You certaintly don't need a G23 to conceal if you ever decide to. I carry a G35 off duty with a Surefire X300 in a kydex holster that conceals very well. Sometimes, depending on what I am wearing the same gun with no light in a Crossbreed.

 

[Kevin1]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a 5-11\BladeTech ThumbDrive for my G35, I use it in matches where retention is required, and I use a BladeTech OWB for IDPA type matches where speed in the draw is required, I'm going to replace that holster with a OWB Comp-Tac in the near future. For pure blasting ammo 165grn Win White box is perfect, later if you want to shoot in the local pistol matches a 180gr pill going 725fps should be considered cheating but is well with in the rules, reloading for pistols is very easy, and since you already load for rifles you own most of what you need already. 500 for a G35 is a smoking deal BTW. </div></div>

I did a lot of reading and I ended up reloading my rounds and am planning to start participating in matches in a near future. Bass pro was out of 231 so I bough WST powder instead.

I just posted another topic under the reloading section.

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3320980#Post3320980

 

[bmk]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Congrats on your purchase. I've had my 35 for six years or so now and several thousand rounds. It's on its second or third recoil spring. It's never jammed a single time. You are going to love that gun, it's everything a handgun should be.

That damn gun goes everywhere with me. I've shot everything from raccoons to possums, to cattle (the ones that clearly are too sick to make it), and even got a fox and a rattlesnake.

$500 was a pretty good price, too. I paid 635 for mine new, and wouldn't sell it for 500 today.

Most holsters that fit a G22 will fit the 35, as long as the bottom is open. I put a streamlight TLR2 on mine, and would highly recommend it as a weapon light. The laser is not incredibly useful.

 

[bmk]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Forgot to add, winchester white box 165 are deadly accurate and reliable in mine. They're priced right, too.

For hollow points, I've shot everything from 165 gold dots to xtps, to winchester rangers to golden sabers.

My gun didn't like the golden sabers or the rangers, but loves gold dots and xtps. All the loads were reliable, but the hornady's were the most accurate.

I've found that 180 grain loads actually have less reciol than the 165's, but the 165's have more energy and shoot a lot flatter. Believe it or not, the 35 is pretty capable at 50 to 100 yards.

 

[Infinity]

Re: My first pistol: Glock 35

Congrats on your tool/toy. Don't mind those jealous of your "new to the sport exuberance." Enjoy your firearm and practice to the point where you make an educated decision as to if you'd prefer to carry or not. Cheers.