With my Savage 10fp .223 and also my Tikka 25-06, I used my Hornady OAL gauge along with the bullet comparator and seated the bullets .010" off the lands and got pretty good groups. Using the same tools except,for the modified .204 case as I did with the other two calibers I found that the 39grn. Sierra Blitzking bullet was barely in the modified case when I went to take the measurement to the ogive. This is with the Rem. 700 vtr for sure I'm going to have to back off way further than .010" my question is what is a good starting point for COAL with with this particular deep throat? I have a box of Hornady 45gr. factory loads my dealer gave me with the gun. should I start at their length then try slightly longer I realize they are different bullets than I am using though. Or, suggestions on a starting length are sure welcome as I don't feel my gauge did me much good in this case so, I'm kind of at a stand still. Thanks.