Fieldcraft Need advice on painting setup

JonLSU

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I'm wanting to duracoat my 700p, just the barrel, action, and base and rings. The stock is already done.

I have one of these compressors. I am planning on getting this $25 airbrush from Lauer - link.

My question is, other than the paint, what else do I need to get started. I have heard something like I need a pressure regulator possible, and something that takes moisture out of the airline. I have a harbor freight nearby so if someone knows what else I'll need, I should be able to find it there. Thanks
 
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Go to your local parts store, and pick up a water/oil seperator and tie that in with your line. Any air compressor will work if you can adjust it for the amount of psi that it pumps out.

You can also get a HVLP Spray gun from Lowe's or the like for around $40 mine works good, you don't really need anything too fancy.

If your looking for stencils, I got the ones I used at www.bulldogarms.com/catalog. $15 shipped. They are good ones too.

Hope that helps.
 
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How much psi should I be putting through it roughly? I found a video on youtube that I think helped me out. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it should be at 30-35psi and I will need an inline water remover, right?
 
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Oh, sorry: I read the title of the thread as "Need advice on Palin" and thought it had something to do with the new site rules
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....never mind.
 
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You can vary your pressure to get different looks. I will shoot a base at 35-40psi and then follow up with a second coat at about 20-25psi. I will leave a heavier splatter pattern, not enough to help with grip but does seem to reduce any reflection in the final coats.
 
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Does anybody know what type of reducer they are using? Besides their own? lol I've done lots of air brushing etc, and have the setup for this just fine, and also different types of reducer, thinners etc, but didn't know if this was something differnt or special before I ordered.
 
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I hope this doens't hijack the thread.

On the subject of H20/oil seperator....I recently painted a .50 using Duracoat (first time) and found blotches of what appeared to be grease droplets on the metal...I had to turn up the PSI to about 60 at the compressor and dial way back on the amount of product entering the gravity fed gun to avoid this.

Does this sound like oil or H20 in the line or am I doing something wrong?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jeepone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hope this doens't hijack the thread.

On the subject of H20/oil seperator....I recently painted a .50 using Duracoat (first time) and found blotches of what appeared to be grease droplets on the metal...I had to turn up the PSI to about 60 at the compressor and dial way back on the amount of product entering the gravity fed gun to avoid this.

Does this sound like oil or H20 in the line or am I doing something wrong?

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Sounds like unmixed hardener. I've quit dura-coat (after many) and use gunkote now with excellent results....you have to bake it though, but it's the toughest spray on finish available.
 
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Go to an arts store and talk to a knowledgeable salesperson about a Badger setup. Not necessarily to buy at the time, but to educate yourself for the next step if you find you like the process enough to get the stuff one needs to do it right.

Plastic hoses are for the HVLP can propellants. If you try them with a compressor, the hot airstream (compression concentrates the heat energy in the gas) will melt them right where the hose begins, and the resulting 'bang' nearly gave me a heart attack. A compressor needs a quality multilayer air hose.

Professionals use a 'double action' airbrush, which regulates both air and pigment variably. It allows one to mist and blend/feather shades.

I run my compressor at 25PSI, use odorless airbrush thinner in my paints, and apply the paint in the thinnest applications possible, while also giving each coat full drying and curing time before applying any additional. If you're getting full coverage in a single coat, you're putting it on way too thick/heavy.

Water is a byproduct of humidity and the compression/expansion process. It will always be present, and you need traps and separators in the line. You can get an oil-less compressor, but I don't have one.

I do not buy specific colors. You could end up with a LOT of little bottles which always run out too soon. I buy primary colors and mix shades. All my colors start out as grays, and are then tinted to effect a color. I use professional sign painters' enamels exclusively. They have UV stabilizers in them, and this helps avoid fading. Flats have issues I choose not to indulge, so I mix my colors from gloss paints, and allow them to thoroughly cure, then finish off with a coat or two of Clear Satin Varathane.

I developed my airbrushing skills in response to taking up scale modelling, and had to develop techniques which duplicated genuine historical camo pattern on a very small scale. It's one of those hobbies that leaves you a trenbling wreck quite regularly, and has its origins in tearing a finsh off and starting over repeatedly.

The best advice I can offer is: paint in thin layers, and wait; then wait some more between coats.

Greg
 
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I forgot I posted this thread a while back.
Update: I ended up buying a Paasche VL double action airbrush from someone here on the hide. Then got a oil/water separator and put in on the line. Painting went pretty smooth. Here's pics of the rifle I painted...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Stoffels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">very nice camo job did you use premade patterns or cut your own
Bill </div></div>

I wish I could take credit for the stock, but I'm not a great painter. Had someone do it for me.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=19&t=241539