Rifle Scopes Need help with S&B reticle choice.

[Powerstrokediesel]

To complete my GAP M40A3 rifle I need to purchase the correct S&B Scope for it. As we know, the S&B M8541 is not available for purchase. I recently contacted S&B and asked what civilian/commercial available scope is closest to the M8541? They promptly replied and told me that their 3-12x50 PMII L/P “Military” model is the closest. It is identical in every way to the M8541 except for two things: The markings and the reticle. Rather than the Premier Heritage Gen 2 Mil-Dot reticle the “Military” model has the S&B PF4 Fine reticle and the markings are S&B as opposed to USMC with the NSN.

Here is my question: By reviewing all of the available S&B reticles it appears to me that the P3L Mil-Dot illuminated reticle most closely approximates the Premier Heritage Gen 2 Mil Dot reticle.

It is my feeling that the closest scope currently available on the commercial market from S&B to the M8541 is their “Military” model with the P3L Mil-Dot reticle. I hear a lot of discussion and praise for the PF4 Fine reticle but have not heard much discussion on the P3L Mil-Dot reticle. I know there are a few S&B knowledgeable folks on this board and I was wondering what your thoughts are on this issue? How similar or dissimilar is the P3L compared to the PH Gen 2 Mil-Dot?

Thanks

 

[Lindy]

Re: Need help with S&B reticle choice.

You might check to see if the Klein reticle is available. Except for some variations in line thickness, it's almost identical to the Gen II, with dots on marks one mil apart and hashmarks halfway between the dots.

 

[Advokaten]

Re: Need help with S&B reticle choice.

This is what your are wanting,

This is what you are proposing to choose

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it a non lit reticle and pretty much standard mildot

and this is the P4f

I have only played wit the gen 2 ret in Premier scope but besides that I think that the P4f does make fore the better stand in for the real deal,

my 2 cents.

/Chris

 

[JRose]

Re: Need help with S&B reticle choice.

If I couldn't get the Klein, I'd choose the P4f next. The P4f is a wee bit thin IMO, but it's not a deal breaker, and is a very user friendly reticle.

 

[Powerstrokediesel]

Re: Need help with S&B reticle choice.

Thanks Swedish guy, Your comparison is very helpful The S&B P3 is available with an illuminated version, the P3L. I appreciate your help.

 

[Advokaten]

Re: Need help with S&B reticle choice.

Well pay no attention to what I say, but rather what mr J Rose states,

I have a ilum mildot in my Hensoldt and yes there is nothing wrong with it, just that I like my P4f better,

either way really you are about to have some good optics around to shoot with.

/Chris

 

[Powerstrokediesel]

Re: Need help with S&B reticle choice.

Is the S&B Klein reticle as described on the S&B German website available in the US?