I have the chance to get approx 1000 rounds of this brass for next to nothing, actually $10. I'm not saying where until I actually have them (tomorrow), but this is from a widow who's late husband had shot these out of an M14. She said they are stamped "LC 63 MATCH". My question is are these .223 REM or 5.56 NATO? crimped primers? are they worth anything?
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Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
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Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
They for sure are not 223 if they have been fired out of a M14. 308 is more likely and match brass is not crimped.
1000 Match brass at $10 depending on how many firings he has on them is worth it! 1000 308 cases would probaly get $10 in scrap weight!
Terry
They for sure are not 223 if they have been fired out of a M14. 308 is more likely and match brass is not crimped.
1000 Match brass at $10 depending on how many firings he has on them is worth it! 1000 308 cases would probaly get $10 in scrap weight!
Terry
Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
Oh yeah your right, it is .308 brass. 1x fired I believe. She says that he had them for YEARS. The funny thing is I really thought they were .223 and I was going to buy them even though I don't own a rifle in that caliber. I figured I could resize, deprime, tumble and sell them off ready to reload. Guess what, I shoot .308 and reload.
Oh yeah your right, it is .308 brass. 1x fired I believe. She says that he had them for YEARS. The funny thing is I really thought they were .223 and I was going to buy them even though I don't own a rifle in that caliber. I figured I could resize, deprime, tumble and sell them off ready to reload. Guess what, I shoot .308 and reload.
Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
HHMMMMM!!! Let me guess maybe a Savage 10FP LE .308 24"???
Terry
HHMMMMM!!! Let me guess maybe a Savage 10FP LE .308 24"???
Terry
Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
I am still shooting come LC-64 and 65 that I've had for years.They will compare to the best of todays brass.That price is a steal! Pete
I am still shooting come LC-64 and 65 that I've had for years.They will compare to the best of todays brass.That price is a steal! Pete
Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
Paid $10 for all.
Before
After cleaning and a FL resize
Headstamp
Paid $10 for all.
Before
After cleaning and a FL resize
Headstamp
Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
Wow. Jackpot!
Looks like a few of those shiney ones may have a ring around the case head, though it could be just the pic, my eyes, or the way they cleaned up.
I'm guessing some are more than once fired. Be careful w/ those that have a ring -- a case head separation would ruin your day. I've not experienced that myself. Maybe better to check some of your manuals or ask around here.
-Slice
Wow. Jackpot!
Looks like a few of those shiney ones may have a ring around the case head, though it could be just the pic, my eyes, or the way they cleaned up.
I'm guessing some are more than once fired. Be careful w/ those that have a ring -- a case head separation would ruin your day. I've not experienced that myself. Maybe better to check some of your manuals or ask around here.
-Slice
Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HomeSlice</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow. Jackpot!
Looks like a few of those shiney ones may have a ring around the case head, though it could be just the pic, my eyes, or the way they cleaned up.
I'm guessing some are more than once fired. Be careful w/ those that have a ring -- a case head separation would ruin your day. I've not experienced that myself. Maybe better to check some of your manuals or ask around here.
-Slice
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I soaked these in CLR and water for about 10 minutes just to see what they looked like. I did full length resize these in a Forster die. I'm going to get a tumbler and some walnut media and do it the right way for the rest. I'm pretty new to reloading myself, could anyone explain what he said? Here's the closest picture I could get of the sample batch.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HomeSlice</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow. Jackpot!
Looks like a few of those shiney ones may have a ring around the case head, though it could be just the pic, my eyes, or the way they cleaned up.
I'm guessing some are more than once fired. Be careful w/ those that have a ring -- a case head separation would ruin your day. I've not experienced that myself. Maybe better to check some of your manuals or ask around here.
-Slice
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I soaked these in CLR and water for about 10 minutes just to see what they looked like. I did full length resize these in a Forster die. I'm going to get a tumbler and some walnut media and do it the right way for the rest. I'm pretty new to reloading myself, could anyone explain what he said? Here's the closest picture I could get of the sample batch.
Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
Park,
Take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE0A5IsR1dA
Best case they're just marks from sizing, but if so I'd guess they've been sized more than once.
Head separation is basically when the case comes apart during firing...
Here's another link: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=324062
I don't mean to alarm you, my info comes from reading the manuals. I'm sure somebody more knowledgeable here will chime in...
-Slice
Park,
Take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE0A5IsR1dA
Best case they're just marks from sizing, but if so I'd guess they've been sized more than once.
Head separation is basically when the case comes apart during firing...
Here's another link: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=324062
I don't mean to alarm you, my info comes from reading the manuals. I'm sure somebody more knowledgeable here will chime in...
-Slice
Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
It looks OK to me. If he's going to see case head separation he needs to do the paperclip test.
Bend a paperclip to a small L shape and fish it to the inside bottom of the case, lightly press on the case wall and pull it smoothly from the base to about 1/3 of the way up the wall.
If you feel a "bump" about 1/8" above the base of the case it's because the brass is stretching apart and on the verge of ripping the entire base off of the case. Best case scenario is you have to get the case extractor tool out and take care of your ill chamber. Worst case is it wrecks your day in a big way.
That being said, I'm not seeing anything more than bright marks where the die worked the brass during the resizing process. Checking a dozen or so cases would probably tell you the truth.
It's hard to tell from the picture of the primer, but the primers look "gold" still, they're not chrome plated brass which is an almost sure sign of reloads. Yes, it's possible to get brass colored primers, but it's far less common. I've only managed to get them in pistol primers anyway, all the rifle primers I have on the shelf are chromed.
I have some ancient CCI's and really ancient Olin primers that I am guessing are about twice my age. They're all chrome.
It looks OK to me. If he's going to see case head separation he needs to do the paperclip test.
Bend a paperclip to a small L shape and fish it to the inside bottom of the case, lightly press on the case wall and pull it smoothly from the base to about 1/3 of the way up the wall.
If you feel a "bump" about 1/8" above the base of the case it's because the brass is stretching apart and on the verge of ripping the entire base off of the case. Best case scenario is you have to get the case extractor tool out and take care of your ill chamber. Worst case is it wrecks your day in a big way.
That being said, I'm not seeing anything more than bright marks where the die worked the brass during the resizing process. Checking a dozen or so cases would probably tell you the truth.
It's hard to tell from the picture of the primer, but the primers look "gold" still, they're not chrome plated brass which is an almost sure sign of reloads. Yes, it's possible to get brass colored primers, but it's far less common. I've only managed to get them in pistol primers anyway, all the rifle primers I have on the shelf are chromed.
I have some ancient CCI's and really ancient Olin primers that I am guessing are about twice my age. They're all chrome.
Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
So I cut one of the suspect cases in half using a circular saw with a metal cutting blade. I pounded the case into the end of a 2x2 board with a hammer to hold it while I sawed. Not the ideal or easiest way but it worked. Looks good and thick with no indentations inside.
So I cut one of the suspect cases in half using a circular saw with a metal cutting blade. I pounded the case into the end of a 2x2 board with a hammer to hold it while I sawed. Not the ideal or easiest way but it worked. Looks good and thick with no indentations inside.
Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
You got a screaming deal!!
I was given 400+ pieces of LC Match brass a few years ago. After sorting by year, 77 had the most. I then sorted by weight (weighed a bunch to figure out a 1gr spread that most fell in, then weighed them all and set aside everything that fell out of the spread). I've been shooting that batch of 250+ pieces of LC77 for the past couple of years, probably have 8-10 reloads on them. After vegas I'm switching to Lapua and will keep them for backup.
I'd suggest sorting them by weight. Most of mine were good, but there were a few cases that were 6-8gr heavier or lighter than the majority.
You got a screaming deal!!
I was given 400+ pieces of LC Match brass a few years ago. After sorting by year, 77 had the most. I then sorted by weight (weighed a bunch to figure out a 1gr spread that most fell in, then weighed them all and set aside everything that fell out of the spread). I've been shooting that batch of 250+ pieces of LC77 for the past couple of years, probably have 8-10 reloads on them. After vegas I'm switching to Lapua and will keep them for backup.
I'd suggest sorting them by weight. Most of mine were good, but there were a few cases that were 6-8gr heavier or lighter than the majority.
Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
You're one fortunate SOB in my book. I have about 650 pcs of LC72 Match brass set aside for special occasions. I have a couple hundred pieces of LC91 & 93 Match M852 brass that is my current "good stuff". From what I can see on the pics you have, there's red lacquer around the primers and not much, if any, sign of more than 1 firing on the cases or heads. They may have been fired from a rifle with a slightly large (diameter, not headspace) chamber, hence the heavy burnishing on the lower portion of the case during sizing.
ETA - If you cut up any more of those cases, the brass gods will be very displeased with you.
You're one fortunate SOB in my book. I have about 650 pcs of LC72 Match brass set aside for special occasions. I have a couple hundred pieces of LC91 & 93 Match M852 brass that is my current "good stuff". From what I can see on the pics you have, there's red lacquer around the primers and not much, if any, sign of more than 1 firing on the cases or heads. They may have been fired from a rifle with a slightly large (diameter, not headspace) chamber, hence the heavy burnishing on the lower portion of the case during sizing.
ETA - If you cut up any more of those cases, the brass gods will be very displeased with you.
Re: Need info about "LC 63 MATCH" brass
When I saw the thread I thought it was LC 63 30.06 which I have a goodly amount of. You definitely got a good deal.
When I saw the thread I thought it was LC 63 30.06 which I have a goodly amount of. You definitely got a good deal.
