Neither fit to serve as president.

[Maggot]

I tend to agree with this. The sad part is where does it leave us. I see no one onthe deludeocrat fit to serve and likely only DeSantis on the RINO side. This could get interestingly ugly.

Majority of Americans don't want Biden or Trump to run ...​

CNBC
https://www.cnbc.com › 2022/12/09 › majority-of-ameri...



Dec 9, 2022 — The survey found 61% of the public think Trump should not seek the presidency, compared with 30% who believe he should.

 

[Charmingmander]

CNBC survey. Meh.

 

[doubloon]

RINO ... replace "Neither" with "Hardly Any" and we can agree on a starting point.

However, what I think doesn't matter because I don't vote in either Primary and the primaries are controlled by a bunch of rabid, extremist chimps.

The primaries will crap out what we can choose to be stuck with, I'll be voting against socialism or for the best Democrat running like I did when I voted for Trump previously. We haven't seen an honest to goodness Republican or conservative in a while.

Some people will choose to vote for neither which is basically the same as casting a vote against freedom. Biden will get elected, SCOTUS will get packed, courts will run wild with insanely diverse rulings, sheriffs will have to decide between upholding the "law" and upholding the Constitution.

 

[lonegunman762x51]

Why is it that Biden voters always post this crap?


At this point, no one will be able to overcome the massive left wing voter fraud machine without serious use of lawyers and courts. No media outlet including Fox News is willing to report on, much less question the rampant voter fraud and ballot box stuffing of 2020 or 2024.

Trump is the only one willing to speak openly about this rampant crime on America. Hell the FBI and DOJ openly work to support voter fraud and to menace or threaten anyone who dares to question the party line with prison at the very least. We have Army Generals calling the Chinese Communist party to swear fealty to their chink overlords and a child fucking loser as president. If Trump shit on his desk live on TV he is still a better choice than Biden.

Name a Republican who is willing to stand up to the leftist menace other than Donald Trump.

 

[Maggot]

Why is it that Biden voters always post this crap?


At this point, no one will be able to overcome the massive left wing voter fraud machine without serious use of lawyers and courts. No media outlet including Fox News is willing to report on, much less question the rampant voter fraud and ballot box stuffing of 2020 or 2024.

Trump is the only one willing to speak openly about this rampant crime on America. Hell the FBI and DOJ openly work to support voter fraud and to menace or threaten anyone who dares to question the party line with prison at the very least. We have Army Generals calling the Chinese Communist party to swear fealty to their chink overlords and a child fucking loser as president.

If Trump shit on his desk live on TV he is still a better choice than Biden.

Name a Republican who is willing to stand up to the leftist menace other than Donald Trump.

That doesnt make him a good choice, just the better of two poor choices. As it stands I'd go with DeSantis.

 

[IronSkillet]

That doesnt make him a good choice, just the better of two poor choices. As it stands I'd go with DeSantis.

WHy is it that clowns can only regurgitate crap and not independent critical thought?

Isn't this the same logic used to convince oneself that Biden was the way to go in the last election?

 

[Maggot]

Isn't this the same logic used to convince oneself that Biden was the way to go in the last election?

Did you vote for Biden? Not very good logic on your side.

 

[lonegunman762x51]

That doesnt make him a good choice, just the better of two poor choices. As it stands I'd go with DeSantis.

I do not give a crap who it is as long as they do not have a "D" next to their name. Or how old or how many indictments or if they legally took home classified documents because they are allowed to as president.

 

[samadisoulcrusher]

That doesnt make him a good choice, just the better of two poor choices. As it stands I'd go with DeSantis.

Desantis has the likes of Jeb Bush Backing him. That is a disqualifier for me! Fuck the Bushes .

 

[Charmingmander]

Isn't this the same logic used to convince oneself that Biden was the way to go in the last election?

I like how Maggot removed the part of his post about clowns

 

[Bullfrog08]

I notice when people are asked why they have a dislike for Trump, they generally answer "because he is racist or bigot". Then asked for examples, the response is always something like "are you kidding me". Therefore, I have concluded the following reasons are why people hate Trump:

1. Are you Kidding me.
2. Are you serious.
3. Are you retarded.
4. Have you not heard the guy talk.
5. Because.
6. Do you not watch TV.
7. Have you not heard everything he has said about minorities.
8, 9, 10, 11.........any derivative of "Seriously....".

I couldn't stand to listen to Trump before he was President, he seemed like an arrogant smug ass. Now that I have watched every person with morals opposite of mine attack him, I know he is the man I want in charge! I thought he was a great President. He put everyone, even the people that hate him, first! I want a guy in the office putting Americans first!

 

[Maggot]

Desantis has the likes of Jeb Bush Backing him. That is a disqualifier for me! Fuck the Bushes .

Can you suggest a better choice, leaving Trump out of the equation?

 

[Maggot]

I like how Maggot removed the part of his post about clowns

Why should that affect you in any way? I only did it to avoid starting conflict, which you apparently want to start.

 

[Maser]

Biden and Trump are both anti-gun. That should be enough info us pro-2A folks here need to know.

 

[Charmingmander]

Why should that affect you in any way? I only did it to avoid starting conflict, which you apparently want to start.

No. You did it so you wouldn't have to deal with the dog pile that you would have received for calling a bunch of us clowns. Don't be such a pussy and show your true colors like a man.

 

[goinghunting]

Can you suggest a better choice, leaving Trump out of the equation?

No reason to. Trump is THE ONLY choice for anyone with 2 brain cells and a love for the country.

 

[Maggot]

No reason to. Trump is THE ONLY choice for anyone with 2 brain cells and a love for the country.

Thats one opinion.

 

[IronSkillet]

Did you vote for Biden? Not very good logic on your side.

Did you vote for Biden? Not very good logic on your side.

Trying to imply something from my response that isn’t present, so typical of a Lefty and another false narrative. No, at no time have I ever voted for a Democrat, I did like the Blue Dog Dems in the late 90’s but they disappeared is quickly as they appeared.

 

[Maggot]

No. You did it so you wouldn't have to deal with the dog pile that you would have received for calling a bunch of us clowns. Don't be such a pussy and show your true colors like a man.

Wrong, but youre not worth the time nor the energy to expend. Youre not looking for logic nor rational, only to stir shit. Noted.

 

[NoDopes]

Pretty sure the republic is toast. Corruption at every level. No way to fix it. It's going to have to get really fucking bad before anybody would rise up to reset it.

 

[Maggot]

Trying to imply something from my response that isn’t present, so typical of a Lefty and another false narrative. No, at no time I I ever voted for a Democrat, I did like the Blue Dog Dems in the late 90’s but they disappeared is quickly as they appeared.

So youre a lefty in disguise.

 

[Maggot]

Pretty sure the republic is toast. Corruption at every level. No way to fix it. It's going to have to get really fucking bad before anybody would rise up to reset it.

The bottom line.

 

[Charmingmander]

Wrong, but youre not worth the time nor the energy to expend. Youre not looking for logic nor rational, only to stir shit. Noted.

Not at all as a matter of fact. Just making a reading suggestion. If you feel that strongly about Trump voters I think you should state it instead of hiding it.

 

[Maggot]

Not at all as a matter of fact. Just making a reading suggestion. If you feel that strongly about Trump voters I think you should state it instead of hiding it.

I dont care who you or anyone else votes for, thats your choice in the land or fleeting liberty. I just dont think The Donald would be a good choice at this time. I dont see a great choice, DeSantis looks like the best of whats left. YMMV

 

[Expert684]

Wasn't it a few years back the WEF pegged Desinkus to be a "rising" star? That has me worried.
I say vote for the fucker the Dimwits are scared the most of. Trump? How much worse can it get?
We are all fucked anyway! Sooner or later the FAFO war will break out. Look NYC, just gave BLM a raise to fuck around, and Illinois soon to have cash-less bail system. That should be great when other dipshit states copy them. World!

 

[IronSkillet]

So youre a lefty in disguise.

Friend, go find out what the BlueDog Dems are and then talk smack! My bottom line for the majority of my voting life is; we the people have been duped into this 2 Party system that is nothing more then good-cop bad-cop, depending on what the current controlling party. At the rate we are going it really will not matter who holds the crown in 2025,we are doomed!
Ideology. The Blue Dog Coalition is the most conservative grouping of Democrats in the House. It "advocates for fiscal responsibility, a strong national defense and bipartisan consensus rather than conflict with Republicans".

 

[Charmingmander]

I dont care who you or anyone else votes for, thats your choice in the land or fleeting liberty. I just dont think The Donald would be a good choice at this time. I dont see a great choice, DeSantis looks like the best of whats left. YMMV

I don't see how anyone that takes a long hard look at DeSantis, his actual record and not his claimed record, and the people that back him, can seriously think he is in any way a superior choice for kicking the can down the road a bit further. Not to mention the man doesn't even remotely have the support at the grassroots level that Trump does. I don't trust him and neither should you.

I wasn't the biggest Trump supporter myself the first time around either. He did alright in office but wasn't nearly aggressive enough to get things done. Now looking at who is attacking him on a regular basis, I can only pick him and it's not even close.

This all said, I don't think voting will solve anything at this point. We are way beyond the point of voting our way out of our nation's problems.

 

[Maggot]

Wasn't it a few years back the WEF pegged Desinkus to be a "rising" star? That has me worried.
I say vote for the fucker the Dimwits are scared the most of. Trump? How much worse can it get?
We are all fucked anyway! Sooner or later the FAFO war will break out. Look NYC, just gave BLM a raise to fuck around, and Illinois soon to have cash-less bail system. That should be great when other dipshit states copy them. World!

Fair enough.

That in mind, I still dont think Trumpster to be a GOOD choice. Where is DD Eisenhauer when we need him? Or G. Washington.

 

[kthomas]

I think the US deserves better than Biden or Trump.

The issue in the US is the institutional power held by the government. No one single person (i.e. the President), can make the meaningful changes that needs to occur to rid us of the systemic rot and corruption that plagues our government.

 

[Maggot]

I don't see how anyone that takes a long hard look at DeSantis, his actual record and not his claimed record, and the people that back him, can seriously think he is in any way a superior choice for kicking the can down the road a bit further. Not to mention the man doesn't even remotely have the support at the grassroots level that Trump does. I don't trust him and neither should you.

I wasn't the biggest Trump supporter myself the first time around either. He did alright in office but wasn't nearly aggressive enough to get things done. Now looking at who is attacking him on a regular basis, I can only pick him and it's not even close.

This all said, I don't think voting will solve anything at this point. We are way beyond the point of voting our way out of our nation's problems.

My biggest problem with Trump is that he seems to spend too much time on chickenshit stuff and his over all attitude of being special.

I'll vote for him over any crat but I wish we had a better choice.

 

[Charmingmander]

Fair enough.

That in mind, I still dont think Trumpster to be a GOOD choice. Where is DD Eisenhauer when we need him? Or G. Washington.

Hell I'd even take Teddy over the current crop for fuck's sake

My biggest problem with Trump is that he seems to spend too much time on chickenshit stuff and his over all attitude of being special.

I'll vote for him over any crat but I wish we had a better choice.

I can agree there. The social issues are not what's killing us or will kill us.

 

[Milf Dots]

TRUMP NO MATTER WHAT. PERIOD. He is WHO we NEED to SAVE AMERICA- but he can't do it without both a conservative House and Senate!

But those of you who think FL Gov Ron DeSantis isn't a great backup to Trump- in the event Trump is somehow not an option at election time- are smoking bullshit infused crack. DeSantis is the next best choice if the Dems and RINOs take out Trump.

This bullshit of attacking DeSantis to prop up Trump is getting old... Trump doesn't NEED to be propped up and Trump himself should've never gone negative on DeSantis because it makes Trump look petty and spiteful. In response to Trump's attack, DeSantis should've never reacted to Trump- DeSantis should've ignored it.

Again- TRUMP 2024!!! If the Deep State takes Trump out, then DeSantis 2024.

As a Florida voter I sure hope DeSantis finishes his second term as governor- because he's been a fantastic leader and conservative warrior for freedom.

NO candidate is perfect, but we Americans need to stop attacking each other because it only benefits the democrats (a.k.a. Insurgents).

 

[232593]

Friend, go find out what the BlueDog Dems are and then talk smack! My bottom line for the majority of my voting life is; we the people have been duped into this 2 Party system that is nothing more then good-cop bad-cop, depending on what the current controlling party. At the rate we are going it really will not matter who holds the crown in 2025,we are doomed!
Ideology. The Blue Dog Coalition is the most conservative grouping of Democrats in the House. It "advocates for fiscal responsibility, a strong national defense and bipartisan consensus rather than conflict with Republicans".

Do the “Blue Dog Dems” even exist anymore?

 

[Maggot]

TRUMP NO MATTER WHAT. PERIOD. He is WHO we NEED to SAVE AMERICA!

But those of you who think FL Gov Ron DeSantis isn't a great backup to Trump- in the event Trump is somehow not an option at election time- are smoking bullshit infused crack. DeSantis is the next best choice if the Dems and RINOs take out Trump.

This bullshit of attacking DeSantis to prop up Trump is getting old... Trump doesn't NEED to be propped up and Trump himself should've never gone negative on DeSantis because it makes Trump look petty and spiteful. In response to Trump's attack, DeSantis should've never reacted to Trump- DeSantis should've ignored it.

Again- TRUMP 2024!!! If the Deep State takes Trump out, then DeSantis 2024.

As a Florida voter I sure hope DeSantis finishes his second term as governor- because he's been a fantastic leader and conservative warrior for freedom.

NO candidate is perfect, but we Americans need to stop attacking each other because it only benefits the democrats (a.k.a. Insurgents).

I can agree with all but your first line.

 

[Maggot]

Do the “Blue Dog Dems” even exist anymore?

Blue Dog Coalition - Wikipedia​

 

[232593]

Fair enough.

That in mind, I still dont think Trumpster to be a GOOD choice. Where is DD Eisenhauer when we need him? Or G. Washington.

Or the great Joe McCarthy. Who was right about everything BTW.

 

[232593]

Blue Dog Coalition - Wikipedia​

I know what they are/were but they are not a factor in the demonic party anymore.

 

[Makinchips208]

Vote harder!!!

 

[Milf Dots]

I don't predict a phoenix rising out of the ashes to assume Trump's position in the event the Deep State takes out Trump- instead I'm of the opinion the choices and players are already established.

Of course, we can safely say Asa Hutchinson, Mike Pence, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, and a few others are not acceptable choices.

Trump, DeSantis, and Vivek Ramaswamy, IN THAT ORDER, are the only ones with the necessary guts and American views to save America.

 

[IronSkillet]

Do the “Blue Dog Dems” even exist anymore?

No.

 

[Expert684]

Fair enough.

That in mind, I still dont think Trumpster to be a GOOD choice. Where is DD Eisenhauer when we need him? Or G. Washington.

Better question at this point, who is not compromised and is not a puppet on the "take". I trust no one at this stage we are at! FIRST!

 

[acudaowner]

a bushel of carrots . it cant be any worse than joe biden

 

[Milf Dots]

All that said, Trump better start preaching a positive message and vision, smile a lot more, because independent voters are fickle and need sunshine blown up their asses.

 

[mardad]

Why is it that Biden voters always post this crap?


At this point, no one will be able to overcome the massive left wing voter fraud machine without serious use of lawyers and courts. No media outlet including Fox News is willing to report on, much less question the rampant voter fraud and ballot box stuffing of 2020 or 2024.

Trump is the only one willing to speak openly about this rampant crime on America. Hell the FBI and DOJ openly work to support voter fraud and to menace or threaten anyone who dares to question the party line with prison at the very least. We have Army Generals calling the Chinese Communist party to swear fealty to their chink overlords and a child fucking loser as president. If Trump shit on his desk live on TV he is still a better choice than Biden.

Name a Republican who is willing to stand up to the leftist menace other than Donald Trump.

Absolutely!!! Spot on!!!!

 

[mardad]

I notice when people are asked why they have a dislike for Trump, they generally answer "because he is racist or bigot". Then asked for examples, the response is always something like "are you kidding me". Therefore, I have concluded the following reasons are why people hate Trump:

1. Are you Kidding me.
2. Are you serious.
3. Are you retarded.
4. Have you not heard the guy talk.
5. Because.
6. Do you not watch TV.
7. Have you not heard everything he has said about minorities.
8, 9, 10, 11.........any derivative of "Seriously....".

I couldn't stand to listen to Trump before he was President, he seemed like an arrogant smug ass. Now that I have watched every person with morals opposite of mine attack him, I know he is the man I want in charge! I thought he was a great President. He put everyone, even the people that hate him, first! I want a guy in the office putting Americans first!

Well said!!!

 

[Maggot]

Hmm, not even close. How’s this, after making a donation to the Eisenhower Foundation this is the gift I received. The hat not the bank.
View attachment 8187011

I had one of those years 70 ago. The decal on the hat, not the bank. Wish I still had it.

 

[Skeptic1]

In a fair election Trump will win hands down everytime. Legitimate elections are history. The republic is gone.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

when one goes to the polls, one does not vote for "who's best?"

No.

When one goes to the polls, one must choose whom they think is the "least-worst."

 

[lash]

I don't see how anyone that takes a long hard look at DeSantis, his actual record and not his claimed record, and the people that back him, can seriously think he is in any way a superior choice for kicking the can down the road a bit further. Not to mention the man doesn't even remotely have the support at the grassroots level that Trump does. I don't trust him and neither should you.

As a Florida resident, I’d like for you to expound a bit regarding the actual DeSantis record and what specifically you don’t like about it.

 

[Milf Dots]

As a Florida resident, I’d like for you to expound a bit regarding the actual DeSantis record and what specifically you don’t like about it.

Exactly.
The list of patriotic & much needed changes DeSantis has forced thru for Florida is a long list. A candidate can't be expected to waste time denouncing every RINO and Globalist who mentions DeSantis in a positive way- because time and money simply don't allow for that- DeSantis like any other candidate has to spend every second spreading his long list of patriotic actions and agenda.

No candidate is perfect but if the deep swamp knocks Trump out of the race- DeSantis is the next best choice.