Rifle Scopes New IOR 3.5-18x50

[LibertyOptics]

Hiders,

Just arrived, and I must say, as I sit here, these are the best scopes IOR has ever made since I've been doing this.

Here's a set of pics: IOR 3.5-18x50

Length: 14.25"
Weight: 38oz

The tunnel effect is from 3.5-4x, not bad at all. It's gone after 4x!

Eye relief 3.5"+, does <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> change as you zoom. I measured this to verify. This is a huge improvement over the 3-18x42

Extra length of the tube behind the turret housing, plus the longer turret housing, equals "bye-bye" eye relief issues.

Non-fussy at high powers, too (optics never been a problem with the IOR).

Entire interior of the reticle illuminates, but can be turned way down like the 6-24x. The digital illumination w/o rheostat works perfectly.

20-21 mils of travel.

MP-8 A5 reticle, with about 8-9 mils of holdovers at 18x.

As I sit here, I think this is the finest scope IOR has made since I've been doing this. Obviously, there is no field data on these but that is all we lack to make it a market segment leader, IMO

Scott

 

[kenny_30]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

price range?

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

MAP is $1895, PM for SH price. Rings and sunshade included

 

[koshkin]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hiders,

Just arrived, and I must say, as I sit here, these are the best scopes IOR has ever made since I've been doing this.

Here's a set of pics: IOR 3.5-18x50

Length: 14.25"
Weight: 38oz

The tunnel effect is from 3.5-4x, not bad at all. It's gone after 4x!

Eye relief 3.5"+, does <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> change as you zoom. I measured this to verify. This is a huge improvement over the 3-18x42

Extra length of the tube behind the turret housing, plus the longer turret housing, equals "bye-bye" eye relief issues.

Non-fussy at high powers, too (optics never been a problem with the IOR).

Entire interior of the reticle illuminates, but can be turned way down like the 6-24x. The digital illumination w/o rheostat works perfectly.

20-21 mils of travel.

MP-8 A5 reticle, with about 8-9 mils of holdovers at 18x.

As I sit here, I think this is the finest scope IOR has made since I've been doing this. Obviously, there is no field data on these but that is all we lack to make it a market segment leader, IMO

Scott


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These sounds really good!

Are you sure you got the weight right?

ILya

 

[learjet]

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was really thinkin hard bout the 6-24, now it just gets more complicated...hehe

ILya when(roughly, no rush from me) and where will ur review of the 6-24 along w the other scopes u were gonna compare it to be posted? here on SH?

does anyone know if either of these scopes come w some kinda covers? scott told me no BCs will fit the 6-24

im thinkin about one of these for my 338 rum. the SS10XHD on it now is 5 mils off the windage center when zeroed...any idea how much elevation this would cost me? obviously its not an issue w the SS

thx!

lear

 

[Jer]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Tube size still 35mm like the 24x? PM inbound.

 

[david777]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Scott,

So this weighs the same as the Premier 3-15 then.

Looking forward to receiving it, it looks like a real winner.

D

 

[springer01]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

I need one of those! That mag range is just perfect in my opinion. I love it on the 3-18, plus the added benefits of zero stop and illumination. Looks like IOR might have a real winner this time pending no major reliability issues.

Scott from the pics it looks like there is more room to mount the scope further back than the 3-18. Can you conformed this?

 

[learjet]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

ok, am i brain dead or are those 1/4 moa marks on the turrets in the pix on the 3-18x50...been a long day...

 

[cg_wilson2003]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Looks promising. I hope this is a huge success for IOR as the market needs a high quality scope that is not $2,500-$3,000. This and the new Vortex HD is a step in the right direction. It seems every time a look at new glass there is a price increase coming or just happened.

 

[nitronova]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Somebody hurry up and buy one so we can get a review. If they are 1/4 turrets they won't sell very many. I think they are mil/mil. The scope looks great and can't wait for some feed back. I have the gen 4 and love it. The only thing it looks like they did was just move the eye box forward to give it more room on the backend. I would also like to see some pics of the lit reticle. Anyways very exciting ior glass is great and hope this scope brings the companies reputation up hire than what it has been in the past.

 

[koshkin]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: learjet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">was really thinkin hard bout the 6-24, now it just gets more complicated...hehe

ILya when(roughly, no rush from me) and where will ur review of the 6-24 along w the other scopes u were gonna compare it to be posted? here on SH?

does anyone know if either of these scopes come w some kinda covers? scott told me no BCs will fit the 6-24

im thinkin about one of these for my 338 rum. the SS10XHD on it now is 5 mils off the windage center when zeroed...any idea how much elevation this would cost me? obviously its not an issue w the SS

thx!

lear</div></div>

I am working on it. Hopefully within a week I'll be done, but that depends on quite a few things, since my time is limited.

With the IOR, I do not think being 5mils to the right will cost yo a whole lot of elevation adjustment, but I did not check the specifics.

ILya

 

[GPalmer]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...
MP-8 A5 reticle, with about 8-9 mils of holdovers at 18x.
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Looks interesting if those aren't 1/4 MOA adjustments on it. Is the MP-8 A5 reticle the version with the center dot or does it have solid crossbars?

 

[Asiparks]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

it does say 1/4 moa in red on the windage turret, maybe it was the only one available when they were doing the product shots....

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

The turrets are definitely mil/mil, pictures be danged.

More space to mount the rear ring.

MP-8 A5 reticle with the floating dot, perfect.

This is what the scope weighed on my postal scale, it's always +/- 0.5 ounces

Believe me guys, I'm no stanger to unfulfilled product hype, but this scope takes the 3-18x42 to the next level! I've got a good vibe about this scope.

I've shipped the ones out I had here, forgot to fit BC caps on, so I'll be sure to do that with the next one I get my hands on.

You will be getting feedback soon, I bet.

Scott

 

[steelcomp]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Are you taking 3x18x42 trade-ins?

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Wow, thanks for all the PMs. All have been answered.

Scott

 

[GPalmer]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The turrets are definitely mil/mil, pictures be danged.

More space to mount the rear ring.

MP-8 A5 reticle with the floating dot, perfect.
...
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That was exactly what I was hoping to hear!

 

[koobs84]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Looks promising may get this or the 6-24 model.. need to save up the funds tho. Hopefully by the time I have the money enough people will have one and give a review of them.. that will definately help me with the decision.

 

[BCP]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

How much will the 3-18x42 FFP trade ins be selling for?

 

[cav has been]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

How is the availability looking on these Scott?

 

[david777]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Scott,

Just received the scope you sent. At first look and just with a little time spent, this is a most impressive scope. The clarity and color rendition is outstanding. The clicks feel good. The short travel on the parallax control is curious, but it must be a design by necessity for overall optical performance. The MP-8 is one of my favorite reticles anyway. Time will tell on durability, but the build quality seems very stout.

Very well done IOR.

D

 

[Jer]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David777</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott,

Just received the scope you sent. At first look and just with a little time spent, this is a most impressive scope. The clarity and color rendition is outstanding. The clicks feel good. <span style="font-weight: bold">The short travel on the parallax control is curious</span>, but it must be a design by necessity for overall optical performance. The MP-8 is one of my favorite reticles anyway. Time will tell on durability, but the build quality seems very stout.

Very well done IOR.

D </div></div>

This is one of my bigger concerns as well. I'm used to how the knob or object has lots of movement for distance selection on other optics. This can either be a change for the better or worse. Please post your opinion on this specifically as I'm hoping it's a change for the better but scared I may not like the coarse adjustments.

Also, think you can post up a bunch of pictures for us? If you need them hosted you can email them to me and I can host them up if need be. Just dying to see some more pics and details since the Vtac site is lacking details currently.

 

[david777]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

This is one of my bigger concerns as well. I'm used to how the knob or object has lots of movement for distance selection on other optics. This can either be a change for the better or worse. Please post your opinion on this specifically as I'm hoping it's a change for the better but scared I may not like the coarse adjustments.

Also, think you can post up a bunch of pictures for us? If you need them hosted you can email them to me and I can host them up if need be. Just dying to see some more pics and details since the Vtac site is lacking details currently. </div></div>

The little I played with it it seemed to work fine as I was able to bring into clear focus everything out to about 1100-1200 yards behind the house. The control is more than a half turn, not much more and definitely no where near a full turn of rotation. I'll play with some more tomorrow and give you some feedback and pics.

All things considered, this thing is pretty freak'in nice.

 

[Jer]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David777</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

This is one of my bigger concerns as well. I'm used to how the knob or object has lots of movement for distance selection on other optics. This can either be a change for the better or worse. Please post your opinion on this specifically as I'm hoping it's a change for the better but scared I may not like the coarse adjustments.

Also, think you can post up a bunch of pictures for us? If you need them hosted you can email them to me and I can host them up if need be. Just dying to see some more pics and details since the Vtac site is lacking details currently. </div></div>

The little I played with it it seemed to work fine as I was able to bring into clear focus everything out to about 1100-1200 yards behind the house. The control is more than a half turn, not much more and definitely no where near a full turn of rotation. I'll play with some more tomorrow and give you some feedback and pics.

All things considered, this thing is pretty freak'in nice. </div></div>

Now when you say it's more than a half turn does that mean that the 100 and Max actually go past the markings on the knob? The markings make it look like it's about 1/8th of a turn or less.

 

[david777]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Now when you say it's more than a half turn does that mean that the 100 and Max actually go past the markings on the knob? The markings make it look like it's about 1/8th of a turn or less. </div></div>

Jer, I just double checked the travel of the knob, it is exactly a quarter turn. Felt like more when I played with it earlier. My bad.

 

[Jer]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David777</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Now when you say it's more than a half turn does that mean that the 100 and Max actually go past the markings on the knob? The markings make it look like it's about 1/8th of a turn or less. </div></div>

Jer, I just double checked the travel of the knob, it is exactly a quarter turn. Felt like more when I played with it earlier. My bad. </div></div>

Ok, that sounds more like what I was imagining based on the pictures I saw. I'll wait as patiently as I can for some more first hand review and pics. I need to pull the trigger in a matter of days on an optic and am hoping to get some feedback on this one as it's the front runner of my list right now.

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pimpgun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How is the availability looking on these Scott? </div></div>

Ready to go, limited supply. Perhaps this week you can swing by and see for yourself. Friday would be best.

Scott

 

[cttbax]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Scott,

PM sent with price request.
Thanks!

 

[tt350z]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Anyone know how the zero stop on these are working?

Also, was looking at a razor hd. Does this have an eye box that's easier to get behind?

 

[problemchild]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Can I ask 1 question. I saw a post a while ago about a scope company and reliability/returns. Both were not so hot. I'm not sure if it was this brand though as I cannot remember the name now. How is the reliability with this brand of scope overall and how long does a service for warranty take? Is the warranty local or overseas?

 

[springer01]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

I had a failure on my IOR 3-18 ffp gen 3 that I bought used here at SH. Scope was sent to Littleton Colorado, return was a new scope (gen 4). It took awhile like 2 months, but IOR was waiting on a particular part so all gen 4 scopes that were waiting to be built were waiting on this part (everyone was out of stock). Very friendly and informative every time I called. Would not hesitate to buy another in a heartbeat.

 

[82-Pb]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Well let me tell you all about my S-H 1ST GEN WITH ABOUT 1,500! When't tits up.
shipped , and new one arived in (5) DAYS, WHUT MORE CAN YOU ASK FOR???????. I tell you all! when I can aford a new one , You bechaaaaaa.

 

[Jer]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Can someone PM me the contact number for Valdada? I have a name for customer service and if they're still in Littleton (?) that's less than an hour from where I live so I want to call and verify that if I have an issue I can simply drive it down as opposed to having to ship it and paying over $50 for shipping & insurance when I can simply drive it down and hopefully get a new replacement all at once. I only see a PO Box listed now so I want to talk to someone and confirm. Thanks!

 

[springer01]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

IOR Phone

303-979-4578

 

[Jer]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: springer01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">IOR Phone

303-979-4578 </div></div>

Thanks!

 

[strictlyRUM]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

I just ordered one and it will be here wednesday. I will be running it in a match on sunday so I may have a bit of a review for you on monday. Its my first IOR but I have owned about every other manufacturer so I am not biased. I like something about everyone but not everything about any one.

Jason

 

[Impact]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

very nice

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tt350z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Also, was looking at a razor hd. Does this have an eye box that's easier to get behind? </div></div>

Yes

 

[tt350z]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Awesome.

Looks like I found a winner.

 

[tman300wm]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

I have had 4 IOR scopes so far. The first one I bought is a 2.5x10 hunting scope. It's been mounted on a rifle for over 10 years now. Last month I took the rifle out of the safe to clean and oil it. I looked thought the scope and noticed what appeared to be water on the inside of the lenses. I pulled it off the rifle and shipped it to Colorado to IOR's service department. 5 days latter a brand new 2.5x10 arrived. No questions asked.

I also purchased a 3x18 S-H Gen III model a couple years ago. After mounting and shooting it for about a month I noticed that there were flakes of black paint on the inside of the main tube. I sent it to Colorado and in about 6 to 7 days I had a brand new scope no questions asked. I have had that new Gen III on my rifle for some time now with no complaints.

The other two IOR's that I own have been trouble free since I purchased them some time ago. I’m hard on my gear, and I use my scopes a lot. I can live with a product that breaks, not habitually, but obviously things break, that's just the nature of stuff. However, what I can't live with is crappy customer service! I have not had that problem at IOR. Wish I could say the same for a few other big name scope companies I have had issues with.

I buy my IOR’s through Scott at Liberty Optics now days. IOR has been very good on the customer service side of the house. Scott at Liberty has been the kind of guy you just feel good doing business with. He always takes care of me and I never feel like I should have gone any where else to buy stuff. Buy with confidence at Liberty Optics!

 

[C Snyder]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Just ordered mine. Should be here by end of week. If time allows I will post some pics. This thread needs more pics.

 

[strictlyRUM]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Ok so I got mine wednesday and have been using it for a couple days now. I am going to run a match tomorrow so I may have more then. For now.....

First impressions,

Light, compact, clear as hell, nice big easy to use knobs with possitive clics. Things I realy like that I havent been able to find on most scopes in this price range is a power adjusment that didnt move the whole eyepiece. I hate haveing my flip ups acting like a windshield wiper and ALWAYS are in the way one way or another. This scope the eyepieces stays in one place! I will tell you that the zero stop is stupid to get set correctly. Either that or I am just stupid. I have been called that before. Also the new rapid adjust doohicky is not cool. They should have left it out of the design. When the zero stop is set the finger pointer thing is too low and scrapes all the way around the box that the turrets come out of.(sorry for the lack of technical terms I just use the shit) Again I may have missed something in the directions. The reticle also seems pretty coarse all the way powered up. Not Falcon coarse but not USO thin either. I think in this price range it is a very "useable" scope. If you are looking for a purely tactical scope that will run with the USO or Premier this will do it. It functioned flawlessly so far. I did a couple of box tests and ran it out to 1200 back to 535, out to 1000, back to 200, then back to zero and everything seemed to work tits. I will know more the more time I get behind it. So far I like it. Oh and the pic is with a defiance rail, LOW rings and a med palma contour. Fits perfect.

Good:
Very bright, and Clear!(better than my nightforces)
Digital illumination!
Compact
Seems to be half the weight of my USO.
Easy to use/get to controls and oversize possitive knobs
Comes with very quality rings with height of your choice

Bad
Should have left the rapid refrence dial on the design table.
Slightly coarse reticle
Complex zero stop. Too many things to set to get correct results.

 

[tt350z]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Anyway you could get a pic of the reticle?

When you say the reticle is coarse, do you mean it's thick or it's jagged/badly etched?

Thanks in advanced

 

[steve123]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

I like my IOR 6-24x56 so much I'm thinking of selling my Bushnell 3-12FFP and getting one of these for my 6mmART.

 

[desertHK]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Steve
You got bitten by the bugs now. BTW, the scope is real nice. Only complaint, if any, is they could make the markings on the turret a bit bigger for old folks with poor eye sight like myself.

 

[steve123]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Yep for big numbers!

I'm a sucker for zero stops now too.Remember

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Thanks for the review and the pics! I hope the scope performed as it should in your match. Looks like a great fit with low rings.

While not perfect, this scope offers a lot for the money, great glass and tracking, many steps in the right direction.

Scott



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strictlyRUM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok so I got mine wednesday and have been using it for a couple days now. I am going to run a match tomorrow so I may have more then. For now.....

First impressions,

Light, compact, clear as hell, nice big easy to use knobs with possitive clics. Things I realy like that I havent been able to find on most scopes in this price range is a power adjusment that didnt move the whole eyepiece. I hate haveing my flip ups acting like a windshield wiper and ALWAYS are in the way one way or another. This scope the eyepieces stays in one place! I will tell you that the zero stop is stupid to get set correctly. Either that or I am just stupid. I have been called that before. Also the new rapid adjust doohicky is not cool. They should have left it out of the design. When the zero stop is set the finger pointer thing is too low and scrapes all the way around the box that the turrets come out of.(sorry for the lack of technical terms I just use the shit) Again I may have missed something in the directions. The reticle also seems pretty coarse all the way powered up. Not Falcon coarse but not USO thin either. I think in this price range it is a very "useable" scope. If you are looking for a purely tactical scope that will run with the USO or Premier this will do it. It functioned flawlessly so far. I did a couple of box tests and ran it out to 1200 back to 535, out to 1000, back to 200, then back to zero and everything seemed to work tits. I will know more the more time I get behind it. So far I like it. Oh and the pic is with a defiance rail, LOW rings and a med palma contour. Fits perfect.

Good:
Very bright, and Clear!(better than my nightforces)
Digital illumination!
Compact
Seems to be half the weight of my USO.
Easy to use/get to controls and oversize possitive knobs
Comes with very quality rings with height of your choice

Bad
Should have left the rapid refrence dial on the design table.
Slightly coarse reticle
Complex zero stop. Too many things to set to get correct results. </div></div>

 

[C Snyder]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

OK the Brown truck of happiness arrived today and I have mounted and sighed in my NEW IOR 3.5-18x50. Purchaced from <span style="color: #FF0000">LIBERTY OPTICS</span> thank you Scott

First impressions were WOW. Not too heavy not too light. Knobs are as expected from IOR firm crisp clicks. I really like the secondary impact knob not only for what is intended for but if using a suppressor (which I have a 762SD on the way) it will give you the ability to have a suppressed and non-suppressed zero. I also like the extended tab on the power knob gives a little more leverage as I think it would require this because all adjustment are nice and firm. Not too tight but with out the lever you would be pinching the heck out of the power knob for adjustment.

At first I thought the illumination was a little dim at the highest power until I really thought about it. The Max Illumination on this scope is about 60% of max on other systems, which is perfect. It does not flood the internals at max setting and once I get my NVG's I think it will be very functional at the lower settings.

Mounted on my 308 tactical (built by me!) bore sighted with bore laser and headed to the range. Forgot to bring camera to range DUH so I will take it back tomorrow for a box test.

It tracked perfect while getting sighted it. First shot was one Mil high and .8 mil right. I miss read the marks (each hash is .5 mil) and adjusted 2 mil down and 1.6 mil left. Second shot was exactly at 1 mil down and .8 Mil left. Readjusted and shot 3rds round. Hit the one inch dot 1/2 inch low center. Adjusted one .1mil up shot new circle dead center. I have 14 Mil's of elevation left after center. A fly landed on the target and I couldn’t resist. Hit right of the fly and you could see fly spatter on the left side of the hole. Took a pic with cell phone but didn’t turn out good.

Overall I would say that this scope is as clear as my USO T-Pal. I have noticed that the IOR's are not quite as bright as a nightforce or USO but the clarity is unreal. I guess it may not be brightness persay but the color is just a little different because of the coating used.

Maybe not the best review but I am very happy with the scope. Only thing I am going to change is cut the sunshade down about half and maybe paint to match the rifle.

Enjoy the following pics

Pic thru scope sucks DO NOT judge the optical quality buy my poor photo abilities. Sign is 6" tall 1.1 mills = 152-153yd on MILDOT MASTER Laser range finder 151yds

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: New IOR 3.5-18x50

Hey Brother,

Awesome pics, and thanks for all the feedback. My gut feel is that is the best scope IOR has made and the feedback so far does nothing to dispel this.

Scott